Netflix kills casting from phones

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• wuffah@lemmy.world ⁨46⁩ ⁨seconds⁩ ago

  What possible benefit does this offer to Netflix? Are they trying to avoid paying licensing fee or something?

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• LiveLM@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Changes like this are always made to “Enhance the user experience”. yet the UX keeps going backwards

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  • tdawg@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They recently made everything massive blocks of color so now it’s impossible to read anything. Damn splash screen takes up a third of my TV

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  • kautau@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They’re made to “Enhance the user experience profit”

    “Enhance the user experience” is just what the dev or documentation team writes when management dictates that they drop a feature. The only reasons they would have dropped it:

    • Dev work vs actual customer usage (e.g. it wasn’t getting a lot of users but devs had to maintain it with each update)
    • People were using it to intercept the stream and capture movies to pirate.

    Every decision is about increasing profits first, and UX almost always takes a back seat to that

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    • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨37⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      UX almost always takes a back seat to that

      If it even makes it on the bus in the first place

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• ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Just go Piracy. Real-Debrid + Stremio, Torrent + Hayase or anything else that’s with Piracy.

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  • PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    My lazy ass just torrents on my pc and plugs the HDD into my Shield which has Kodi on it.

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  • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Homelab + Jellyfin.

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  • c5e3@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    kodi + elementum is the best combo i’ve found so far

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• cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  my favourite netflix client is jellyfin tbh. it fixes all of netflix’s probems.

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  • RalphFurley@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Does anyone know if it’s possible to run a self-hosted Jellyfin server without having to run an entire data center on your house? I could do something simple like a NUC or equivalent and a tiny NAS, anything else?

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    • notabot@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You can definitely run it on those sorts of machines. You’ll want plenty of storage, but apart from thst it’s not too demanding if you don’t load it up with very high res videos.

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    • vodka@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There’s people running old raspberry pis with USB hard drives.

      It’ll run on just about anything.

      Though, you’ll only be able to stream original quality, no on the fly quality changes for low speed connections and such.

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    • grue@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      NUCs (8th-gen or later Intel) are pretty much ideal for serving Jellyfin because the Intel integrated graphics can do video transcoding and the software is actually not very demanding otherwise, so the low-power CPUs are fine.

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    • Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I have my jellyfin running on ubuntu server on a 12 year old PC with a bunch of salvaged HDDs added in, plugged into my standard home internet. I have like 10 people I share it with. So far it’s not made a noticeable dent in either the internet usage or the electric.

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    • handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Your biggest issue self hosting JF will likely be port forwarding and the infrastructure required so external users can connect via WAN. Plex abstracts a lot of this away since you just have to open the port and Plex will access your library and broker the data between your server and the client. This now requires the server owner have a Plex Pass. The easiest way to host JF is allowing users LAN access via WireGuard (pivpn) but then you start hitting limitations to which devices they can install WireGuard on (smart tvs). I use Plex and JF, Plex for external users since I bought the lifetime pass 10 years ago, and JF as a backup as the enshittification of Plex continues full steam.

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    • Addv4@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You absolutely can. Currently running mine off of my desktop, but it’s overkill and have a few coworkers that used nucs/cheap mini PCs to setup jellyfin. Biggest thing is to make sure you have enough storage to hold all of your media, then you’re fine.

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    • LiveLM@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I could do something simple like a NUC or equivalent and a tiny NAS

      Literally me rn. A tiny second-hand Dell Optiplex with a 8th gen i3 and a 2TB SSD.
      Maybe not the most future thinking solution since it can only fit 2.5" HDDs and NVMe’s, which are both more expensive than conventional big fat HDDs, but hey, works great.
      If you can find one for cheap locally and get a decent deal on a compatible drive you’re set. You could stretch a Terabyte or two for a looooong while as long as you’re not trying to host Jellyfin for too many people.

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    • quackerjo@lemmy.wtf ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You can probably run it off your existing hardware just using an external drive(s).

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    • fishos@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Mine runs on a mini PC(NUC) hooked up to a hard drive array for the storage. So it’s basically a tiny PC and another box full of hard drives(not required, but you’ll need space somehow…). Pc was around $250.

      Very easy and you don’t need to set up an actual “server rack”. Hell, you can use an old laptop.

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    • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      But then won’t your rack look a bit empty?

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    • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I just run it on my gaming tower

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    • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      i mean i’m only using it for me and my family but i just run it on my desktop linux (and before i switched i was running it on my desktop windows with scoop install jellyfin)

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  • Lazylazycat@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Can you tell more about this please?

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    • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They’re probably saying that they run the self hosted jellyfin app and stream their own media. That’s what I do, and have been doing for like a decade because netflix and other shitty streaming companies can eat a bag of dicks (except Dropout, they’re real Gs) from the number of times I’ve gone to watch something on my watch later list only to find out they didn’t get the license this quarter so 🖕to my movie night

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    • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      cough hoist the flag, and watch netflix shows on jellyfin cough

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• anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  When is the next VC driven company that focuses more on growth than profit coming? I feel Netflix and all the other streaming services are ripe to be overtaken in the same way Netflix overtook tv channel packaging.

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  • fonix232@fedia.io ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    To streaming?

    Never.

    Streaming is a finite market that is already covered. The moment old money (aka existing media companies) jumped on it, it was done for.

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    • anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I definitely understand your view and personally don’t see a way to disrupt the market either. I just hope someone else finds a way.

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  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    the next VC driven company…

    With you so far

    that focuses more on growth than profit

    Ah - there’s your problem. VC companies simply don’t do that.

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    • MagicShel@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The investors focus on growth first, then they enshittify. They were just saying it’s time to start that cycle again.

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    • anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ah - there’s your problem. VC companies simply don’t do that.

      They most certainly do and then either cash in by selling to the next more risk adverse VC or sells it at a loss if they believe the company failed to disrupt the market.

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    • markz@suppo.fi ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ah - there’s your problem. VC companies simply don’t do that.

      That is exactly what VC companies do. That’s why they need the VC money. First you conquer the market at a loss. Only when users have no other options to escape to, you start squeezing them.

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  • ThePantser@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Well if they stay private and don’t let the other companies just buy them out when they are small to squash the competition. Otherwise it’s impossible to be a disruptor now.

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  • HailSeitan@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Mandatory licensing of video content to anyone who can pay for it (similar to what the music industry does) is the only thing that the might disrupt the streaming industry, like a sort of Paramount Decrees for the streaming age, since monopolies on originals is what keeps people locked in

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• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Thou shalt buy a smart tv or other device that we can pull metrics from and force advertising to.

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  • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And require to login to

    Make no mistake, this was intentional before the holidays so families visiting relatives can’t just cast Netflix from their phone to watch something and will require someone to login and use it one of their authorized devices.

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• themurphy@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yeah… There goes my subscription. I’m casting everything to Chromecast on my older TV.

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  • ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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    Seems like if you’ve got the ad-free plan and an older chromecast you’re still ok… For now. This is indicative though that the service may not be viable for long for you.

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    • Soup@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s been a minute, are there Netflix subscriptions which one pays for but which still have ads?

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  • jacksilver@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I thought for Chromecast the “casting” part is just telling the Chromecast what to play. Do you need your phone on while Chromecast shows content?

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• 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Lol why?

  Genuinely seems pretty arbitrary given you need to use their app to start the cast anyway

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  • Zak@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The fact that casting to older devices is allowed on the expensive plan but not the ad-supported one offers a clue.

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  • watson@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because, fuck you, that’s why. I’m sure they will re-introduce the feature behind a paywall soon.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    • kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Casting support is still available on older Chromecast devices or TVs that support Google Cast natively, according to Netflix’s support page, but only for subscribers on pricier ad-free plans, which start from $17.99 per month. Netflix users with an ad-supported subscription ($7.99 per month) will be unable to cast from their phones even if they own legacy Chromecast devices.

      Paywall already there. Excerpt taken from the linked article.

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  • toynbee@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Over the last weekend I was surprised to learn that you can’t stream from the mobile web interface of at least some, if not most, of the streaming apps.

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  • LiveLM@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I was gonna say this could be a way to make account sharing more annoying, so say if you go to a friend’s house and you gotta fiddle to log in with the remote instead of picking up your phone and starting a cast they might be motivated to get their own subscription.
    But it seems you can still log into an account by scanning a QR Code, so… ehh???

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    • atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      My understanding is they already made it more annoying. Your devices have to connect to the home accounts “home” wifi within a certain amount of time or that device gets locked out.

      I quit Netflix when they announced the pilot program for removing account sharing in South America, and I stand by that decision to this day.

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• quackerjo@lemmy.wtf ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The only good thing about Netflix is their diverse global library.

  As in, a Netflix subscription plus a VPN, gives you access to an large library of global content.

  Taking that into account, it’s probably still the best streaming service, which means they’re the shiniest turd in the toilet.

  But still, Jellyfin FTW.

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• falseWhite@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  As if I needed another reason to never get netflix again. 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

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• JoMiran@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  enshittification

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• watson@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Hmmm… still works fine from the Plex app

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  • null@piefed.nullspace.lol ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Until they make it exclusive to the Plex Pass

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    • watson@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      About a Lifetime PlexPass 17 years ago for 35 bucks.

      I’m good

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• blattrules@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Between their new interface and this, it’s like they are actively trying to get you to use it less.

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  • The_v@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Keep paying them but use it less = more profit.

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    • blattrules@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yup, exactly what I was thinking. They’re no longer under any obligation to make their product easy to use.

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• paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The already killed AirPlay years ago 😔

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• Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Awesome. Another reason to never give them money again. 👍

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• Raiderkev@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I was literally trying to do this yesterday and I was confused why my Chromecast was not showing up. I guess that explains it.

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