So why don’t they use it to unfuck Windows 11… before I finish my coffee?
Microsoft says Copilot will 'finish your code before you finish your coffee' adding fuel to the Windows 11 AI controversy that's still raging
Submitted 4 months ago by throws_lemy@reddthat.com to technology@lemmy.world
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njordomir@lemmy.world 4 months ago
UsoSaito@feddit.uk 4 months ago
It was the AI that messed it up to begin with lol. Vibe coding has often required coders having to go back and spend even more time fixing it then if they just did it themselves.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 months ago
best they can do is put more AI
njordomir@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I already finished my coffee too. :-/
bless@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
If you want it done before you finish your coffee, better tell it to start from scratch
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 4 months ago
I would like to someday use AI to remaster Stars!, Magic Carpet, and Judgment Rites. However, it won’t be through co-pilot, because I fundamentally don’t trust Microsoft.
In any case, I think genuine “hands off” development from an AI would be at least a decade off. Partially just for it to have the ability, but also for local hardware to support it. (I only use local AI, but a 100b like GLM is slow as heck on my gaming rig.)
PlantJam@lemmy.world 4 months ago
My boss literally every day: wow look at this new ai tool I just found!
falseWhite@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I think I keep having the same deja vu for at least three years now. That, or these execs are fucking liars telling the same lie for the past 3 years.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 months ago
And it will leave you debugging strange code for two weeks afterward.
aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It’s great at bullshitting that it did what you wanted, which I guess is what counts for results at Microsoft.
It would be much better if they treated it as the slightly better (yeah, I said it) auto complete that it is instead of the beginning of fucking sky net – which was supposed to be a bad thing anyway, remember?
But that wouldn’t move the needle on all the share prices, so instead we have to pretend it can do people’s jobs when it fucking obviously cannot.
So instead they keep pushing this as AI (auto-complete insanity), and keep burning more and more cash. Imagine if we just put a portion of these billions into anything that could actually help anyone. Or don’t, because it’s pretty fucking depressing to think about.
Lyrac@programming.dev 4 months ago
Big over-promise. We’re heavily incentived to use an AI coding agent at work. I try to be optimistic and treat it like a tool to help me do things I already know how to do but a little bit faster. It takes multiple iterations of “no, this still isn’t working” to get something that I can touch up and push for review. The idea that I can prompt it and then step away for ten minutes to make coffee and return to an app is ludicrous.
Maybe one day that will be possible. Then I’ll find a new job I guess
WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 4 months ago
Does its ai learn from people using vscode?
vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
Yes
llama@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Actually it won’t be finishing anything because code is disposable now and nobody cares what trivial app somebody can churn out
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
These fuckers at MicroShit have lost all the ability needed to read a room.
deathbird@mander.xyz 4 months ago
When do you reckon they could last do that?
Baggie@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Maybe after windows 8? Last time I can remember.
lightnegative@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Writing code is the reward for doing the thinking. If the LLM does it then software engineering is no fun.
It’s like painting - once you’ve finally finished the prep, which is 90% of the effort, actually getting to paint is the reward
PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
What a great way to frame it, I love this! I typically spend something like 60-80% of time available for a given task thinking through approaches and trade-offs, etc. Usually there comes a point when the way forward becomes clear, even obvious.
After that? Bliss. I’m assembling a LEGO set I designed, composed of pieces I picked, and luxuriating in how it all feels, when put together.
Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I mean it gets there in the end but it’s often three of four prompts before it provides working code for a relatively simple powershell script. Can’t imagine that it scales to complex code that well at the moment, but then again I’m not a coder.
dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
You’re pretty much spot on
wewbull@feddit.uk 4 months ago
…but what am I going to do while it’s compiling?
kyonshi@piefed.social 4 months ago
Because you won’t have time to drink that coffee if you put this code into production
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
In my experience, which consists of using copilot for about ten minutes, literally every single suggestion is wrong, and if you’re not careful it’ll insert the shitty code and then you have to go back and find out why the code isn’t working.
I’d rather have rebel Wilson shum on my face than use copilot
khepri@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I do NOT want to have ditch Windows after this long. Microsoft. Please don’t superglue Copilot and Windows together expecting that that is somehow what your users want.
_stranger_@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I can drink coffee pretty slow, but I don’t think I can drink it
thatslow.melfie@lemy.lol 4 months ago
A more appropriate line would be that Copilot can shit out code faster than you can pinch off your own loaf.
Kissaki@feddit.org 4 months ago
Good thing finishing your coffee is many sips. Because Copilot certainly doesn’t feel fast. It often feels so slow you wonder whether waiting is worth it.
YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Ah get outta here! Next time they’ll say that co pilot also chooses my furry porn and controls my buttplug while it codes for me.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Oh wow I didn’t know about that butt plug thing. I’m playing in a chess tournament soon so that could come in handy
edgyspazkid@lemmy.wtf 4 months ago
Kissaki@feddit.org 4 months ago
I read “users respond with mercyless trolling” in the teaser, I have to open the article.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
[deleted]apostate9@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 4 months ago
Just enjoying this popcorn.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Love how they’re pretending that an LLM is useful for any task that needs precision.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Technically true, but nobody said the code will be at all functional. I’m pretty sure I can finish about 800000 coffees before Copilot generates anything usable that is longer than 3 lines.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
yeah but then you have to fix everything in the code that they didn’t get right.
like using it to automate a shell is fine; but trusting it blindly and treating it as the finishing product? you’re delusional.
Siegfried@lemmy.world 4 months ago
If thats what they are aiming at, I feel like their AI is actually suppose to be the pilot and the user the copilot
Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 months ago
What they forget to mention is that you then spend the rest of the week to fix the bugs it introduced and to explain why your code deleted the production database…
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
I would rather paint a portrait by myself, spending the time to do it, rather than asking some computer prompt to spit me out a picture. Same logic applies with coding for me.
ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
By the headline statement, that it should be complete and works 100%. Big doubt.
Evotech@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Depends. If it’s a script that will like, cut your video file every 10 seconds with ffmpeg or something simple. Yeah it will one-shot it.
jj4211@lemmy.world 4 months ago
No, just complete. Whatever the dude does may have morning to do with what you needed it to do, but it will be “done”
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 4 months ago
The only time I use copilot is when I am bored at work and I make jokes with it.