I am fucking tired of this shitty behavior.

Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone⁩ to ⁨rant@lemmy.sdf.org⁩

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This is just a partial list of this POS’s ban and block evasion tactics. Every two to three days, this asshole forces an instance to federate out, wasting their resources, and doesn’t give a shit who has banned or tried to block them. Then every single post from every one of these account is very heavily upvoted. Oh, that isn’t suspicious at all, especially when over 90% of what this fuckwqd posts is the laziest kind of repost (just blatantly ripped from .ml in a likely automated way similar to the the account creation likely is since they will make accounts on instances less than a day old).

I am fucking tired of this shitty, bad faith action and this is proof that it is high time that an instance needs the ability to straight up perma ban a username from any instance. I am aware that PieFed has this feature and right now it seems like something so incredibly basic. One person has the power to make all of Lemmy effectively useless, and it needs to stop being that way immediately.

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BroBot9000@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Yeah they are also an Ai simp and just constantly stealing other people’s content.

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- calliope@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  just constantly stealing other people’s content
  
  That’s what bothers me.
  
  The constant reposts have made it more difficult to find the original content. At the very least put where it’s from in the body or something so I can look there
  
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  - cm0002@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    All of my crossposts should show in the cross post menu, OC is additionally tagged with the username
    
    Like this:
    
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- cm0002@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Why am I cross-posting .ml content?
  > >I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don’t want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some niche comms. > >Megathread on the issue > >Some highlights from the link: > >>"Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev lemmy.world/post/30580167 >> >>“See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin lemmy.world/post/30673342 >> >>.ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia lemmy.world/post/29222558 >> The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: lemmy.world/post/18236068 >> >>“NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev lemmy.world/post/31595035 >> >>General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin lemmy.world/post/27426510 >> >>“If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev lemmy.world/post/27352415 > >And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can’t even put them all here because this comment would be really long. > >I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda > >On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like “Lemmy? Isn’t that the place with a bunch of tankies?” Or “Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left”. The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team.
  
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  - TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Wait, are people just getting mad at you because you crosspost from .ml instances? You are going the Flying Sphaguetti Monster’s work.
    
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  - brbposting@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Could users request to be added to your block list? Which you could copy over when creating new accounts.
    
    Maybe a dumb one here but came to mind :)
    
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PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
?

Definitely not every post of theirs is upvoted (see links below). Do you have one that you feel like the voting for was probably fraudulent or something?

He is vocally against lemmy.ml and reposts their content sometimes to encourage people to move off that server. What’s your take on that? Does he repost anything outside of that one example that you know of?

Do people ban this person? Literally all he does is post, as far as I can tell… like I looked over the user pages 1 2 3 4 5 and it’s just kind of normal stuff to me.

It’s a little weird that he has so many accounts. @cm0002@lemmy.zip why do you have so many accounts? It is a little weird and makes it more difficult for people who want to block you, I get that part of what OP is saying, just all the rest of it like you’re doing some kind of wild out-of-pocket thing by posting the stuff you post seems all the way out of left field to me.
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- Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It’s an old tactic to reserve your name on every server.
  
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  - lurch@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    that sounds exhausting
    
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- Snowpix@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I did notice the sudden influx of new accounts under the cm0002 name, I wasn’t entirely sure it’s actually the same guy or somebody impersonating him. I don’t see why he’d need that many, and most of the accounts are very new despite him having been around for a long time.
  
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  - PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Oh, that’s a good point. @OP that is one reason for making it not work the way you describe, it makes it super-easy to destroy any user just by making new alts with their same name and then having them be obnoxious. IDK what the fix is really, it is a real problem that people can make alts to do ban evasion.
    
    @cm0002@lemmy.world I should ask also, are all the described alts actually you?
    
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- cm0002@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I have reasons, I’ll just copy paste a previous response:
  
  For other people blocking me, I don’t really care if they do or don’t, it’s just unfortunate unintended side effects for the actual reasons:
  
  Shopping for a new home instance
  
  Exploring the Threadiverse from different perspectives (the “hot” feed you see can vary quite a bit depending on the instance you’re on lol)
  
  ::: spoiler Trolling .ml (or Why am I cross-posting .ml content?
  
  I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don’t want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some niche comms.
  
  Megathread on the issue
  
  Some highlights from the link:
  
  "Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev lemmy.world/post/30580167
  
  “See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin lemmy.world/post/30673342
  
  .ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia lemmy.world/post/29222558 The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: lemmy.world/post/18236068
  
  “NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev lemmy.world/post/31595035
  
  General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin lemmy.world/post/27426510
  
  “If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev lemmy.world/post/27352415
  
  And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can’t even put them all here because this comment would be really long.
  
  I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda
  
  On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like “Lemmy? Isn’t that the place with a bunch of tankies?” Or “Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left”. The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team. :::)
  
  Learning that the bot intended to better interconnect instance comms may not be doing as good of a job
  
  Interconnecting wayward or much smaller instances, a couple of them are missing even the big comms, one I was on the other day I needed to manual have it federate with every comm I posted to
  
  For the creation of comms on fitting instances or just among a regular rotation of general instances so I’m not making a whole bunch on any one instance -
  
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  - Cricket@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’m just finally looking at those links that you list. Based on just the first couple of “quotes”, they’re not direct quotes but your interpretation of what they’re saying. I get it that you hate lemmy.ml and the Lemmy devs, but this is pretty poor behavior to claim that those are direct quotes.
    
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- jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Saying every post was admittedly hyperbolic. Saying “many” would have been more appropriate I agree. I am well aware of the vendetta against ml. The point here is that even if someone attempts to ban or block them, the effort is immediately bypassed.
  
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  - cm0002@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    None of my accounts have been banned from any instance or comm to the best of my knowledge, with the exception of .ml which they do because they don’t like me calling them put
    
    Evading other users blocking me is not my intention and is just an unfortunate side effect. On the flip side, its not like it take any effort for one to block a user
    
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  - PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You literally wrote “every single post” in bold face lol
    
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  - TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    The way your post was making it out to seem, “forces an instance to federate out” sounded like he was doing something so egregious that he was forcing instances to be defederated, sheesh. Anyway, see my original comment to your post.
    
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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

proof that it is high time that an instance needs the ability to straight up perma ban a username

This wouldn’t solve the problem. They’d just roll in with cm0003. You need an IP ban or some similar source specific censorship. Even then, it’s a moving target when the end user is determined enough.

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- green_copper@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  You need an IP ban or some similar source specific censorship
  
  CG NAT and VPNs want to have a word with you.
  
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  - CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    OP did say:
    
    Even then, it’s a moving target when the end user is determined enough.
    
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- comfy@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yep, there’s at least two different people who are playing this sockpuppet game already. One went by, among other names, lucky8 and would only post think-tank political articles across dozens of communities - an actual propaganda account. Another appears to just repost reddit content onto Lemmy, they had a name similar to darnelle until they started picking other names.
  
  These accounts stand out a lot more whenever you take a look at a specific-purpose instance like a country or subculture instance, rather than a large general-purpose instance like yours or mine. A lot of people complain because these sockpuppets flood an instance with propaganda or just off-topic junk.
  
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BussyGyatt@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I don’t like the content they post (it’s indistinguishable from botspam) and I especially don’t like the fact that I can’t just block it. Every week it’s a new spam account.

Blocking is a user ban. Making so many new accounts is (from a personal, user-experience level only) very much like ban evasion in that view. The user experience fucking blows.

I get that a lot of people are digging what cm0002 posts, and I don’t mind that they are getting off to it. I don’t, and I’m tired of playing block wak a mole. I don’t know what else to do but to keep blocking every time they get bored and make (for some reason???) yet another (over twenty and growing!) account on a new instance.

If people don’t like me, and no doubt I’m on a lot of people’s blocklists (for good reason…), they can block my single name and move on with their lives and never have to deal with my manic bullshit ever again. More power to them, go off and slay, queen, it’s a great feature of this broad community.

Is it really too much to ask to be shown the same courtesy?

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- Blaze@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  @cm0002@lemmy.zip another comment summarizing the issue
  
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  - goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Unfortunately nothing anyone says will change their mind or behavior. :(
    
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cm0002@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
For other people blocking me, I don’t really care if they do or don’t, it’s just unfortunate unintended side effects for the actual reasons:

Shopping for a new home instance

Exploring the Threadiverse from different perspectives (the “hot” feed you see can vary quite a bit depending on the instance you’re on lol)

Learning that the bot intended to better interconnect instance comms may not be doing as good of a job

Interconnecting wayward or much smaller instances, a couple of them are missing even the big comms, one I was on the other day I needed to manual have it federate with every comm I posted to

For the creation of comms on fitting instances or just among a regular rotation of general instances so I’m not making a whole bunch on any one instance

Prevention of a reoccurrence of my imposter problem

::: spoiler Trolling .ml (or Why am I cross-posting .ml content?

I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don’t want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some niche comms.

Megathread on the issue

Some highlights from the link:

"Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev lemmy.world/post/30580167

“See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin lemmy.world/post/30673342

.ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia lemmy.world/post/29222558 The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: lemmy.world/post/18236068

“NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev lemmy.world/post/31595035

General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin lemmy.world/post/27426510

“If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev lemmy.world/post/27352415

And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can’t even put them all here because this comment would be really long.

I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda

On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like “Lemmy? Isn’t that the place with a bunch of tankies?” Or “Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left”. The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team. :::)

If I was really ban/block evading I’d just make up an entirely new user name each time, it would be FAR more effective and longer lasting

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- PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I do feel like there’s a legitimate complaint to be had that since you’re doing heavy / automated posting, it would be good to pick one and only one instance/user to do it from just to be polite to people who don’t want that, and have it blocked.
  
  I feel like all the weeping and gnashing of teeth that OP is doing isn’t necessary, since you’re obviously not intending it badly, but I do feel like there’s a grain of legitimacy somewhere in there.
  
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  - cm0002@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Fair, though it’s definitely not automated. Heavy posting yes, automated no.
    
    The absolute irony here is that I actually considered this perspective weeks ago, but I figured since you can block a user in 3 clicks or less straight from the encountered post the burden of anyone out there blocking me would be low and nbd. Ig not lmao
    
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- apotheotic@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Can you just make this easy for everyone, then, and create your own instance (which hosts the account from which all your heavy posting will come), and use your other accounts for whatever else you might want to do.
  
  This:
  
  enables users or instances that may want to not interact with you to enact that effectively
  
  allows you to see posts from and post to every instance and community which reciprocates a desire to be connected with you (or at least which doesn’t want to not be connected with you)
  
  All without putting the burden on others for your excessive account creation and posting.
  
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  - toynbee@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I have no strong opinion about the user in question, but not everyone has the resources to host their own instance. In addition, from my understanding, even those who do might not be open to the burdens that come with doing so (regardless of whether they’re prolific posters).
    
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- YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Hey! It’s that person they’re talking about! Seriously though, I appreciate your constant posting and keeping this site alive.
  
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hamid@crazypeople.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It is unhinged behavior to do this in response to not liking admins of a lemmy instance and I just feel bad for this person that this is where they channel their life energy into.

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- cm0002@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  [lemmy.world/post/29072279](Documentation of their toxic extremism )
  
  Hamid hmm any relation to the hardcore tankie defender hamid@vegantheoryclub 🤔
  
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  - hamid@crazypeople.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Get a life
    
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  - ThorrJo@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    and support the idea that anyone not aligned with their authoritarian values should just “go back to Reddit”
    
    I mean, I’m not a “tankie” and make a point of posting to non-ml communities when there’s a choice of ml and non-ml because I think there’s some toxic moderation going on there, but I also would prefer that shitlibs go back to reddit and stay there 🤷
    
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- hatorade@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Books and making art are too boring. Making new accounts every month and manually reposting content to the point dozens of users ask if you’re a bot a week is a better time.
  
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Sludge@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It’s the same thing with sunshine, pugjesus, and dude. I can’t fucking stand it. I don’t want to see the same 4 people posting because they’re on a manic upswing/addicted to the platform. I try to block their accounts but it seems like they have already spun up 4 more to submit from a different spot. It’s awful and devalues lemmy (for me). I would be better off never seeing their posts again.

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- Cybersec@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I think people like PugJesus are great because they bring here the content we need?
  
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  - PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yes, but in addition to the history memes and other good and unique content, PugJesus also isn’t a tankie, and sometimes even argues vocally with tankies. cm0002 is the same.
    
    I suspect that’s what’s actually behind this: Some kind “Mean Girls” effort to damage someone’s reputation because they are giving wrongthink to the community. Maybe I’m paranoid. At face value, though, the whole thing of “HOW DARE YOU PUT MEMES IN MY MEME COMMUNITY EVERY DAY ARGBLGRBGLRBG I’M SO ANGRY NOW” makes so little sense that I think it’s safe to assume that something else is the reason.
    
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  - Zorque@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    So flooding communities with low effort reposted content is what we need?
    
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- cloudless@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I like that they’re putting more stuff out on the fediverse and pulling some focus away from .ml.
  
  I just wish I had the time to do the same. We really need more people adding a wider mix of content.
  
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  - Maeve@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It's a script/bot, that's how they have time.
    
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- jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I don’t have a problem with people posting a lot, but people making over a dozen accounts as frequently as every 2 days pisses me off.
  
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- PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yeah, me too, I hate when people post things lol
  
  Like every time I see a history picture in the feed I’m like ARGHH FUCK THIS GAH GLU BO and I start chewing the furniture
  
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  - calliope@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Are you being obtuse on purpose? You can’t see how creating additional accounts could be annoying?
    
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- RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  How do you feel about that Sludge fella, though?
  
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  - Sludge@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    overrated
    
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MourningDove@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Ban evading, but using the same name.

ROFL. Not a lot of logic in that accusation I’d say.

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- calliope@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Man it’s crazy how many people have no ability to self-reflect here
  
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  - MourningDove@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    If I were going to ban evade, I don’t think I’d use the same name. Only people stupid enough to think this is a ban evading tactic would be dumb enough to do that.
    
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- jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  username@whatever completely evades all blocks and bans on Lemmy. This isn’t arguable. Anyone can spin up an instance, use the same username and if they are so inclined use a botnet to upvote everything into the millions.
  
  This comment shows that you don’t know how things work here.
  
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Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Okay. Looking through the comments, it doesn’t appear that you actually have anything here other than it pisses you off. But is it a problem? You’re phrasing this like cm0002 is evading bans and he isn’t. If he’s making new accounts and that annoys you then that sucks but… why do the admins need to get involved with this? You said you want to have him permabanned from an instance? Why?

You can check who voted for a post by the way. Cm0002 doesn’t vote for himself. I have checked in the past when I first started noticing his username a lot myself. Hell, I thought he was irritating as hell for a while myself too. I guess I’m biased in the sense that I know the dude and would call him a friend but even then, I’m not seeing anything demonstrating that action needs to actually be taken by anyone.

I get being annoyed with people. But saying that this is bad faith and worthy of having the entire username banned from the entire fucking instance seems like a massive overreach. One so far that I would just outright avoid ever posting to that instance ever again because that admin would be tripping balls and power.

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- hamid@crazypeople.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  it doesn’t appear that you actually have anything here other than it pisses you off.
  
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  - calliope@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Literally the entire purpose of this community.
    
    It’s been fun to see a lot of the major Lemmy posters show up in this thread. It’s been really eye-opening.
    
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  - Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yes, and I’m sorry little one, but did your parents not inform you about the fact that attacking someone and making shit up about them is not appropriate behavior even if it’s a rant? I’d also suggest you might read that sidebar you just took the screenshot of there. Might help you out there and why I’m upset little one.
    
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  - ook@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    :D
    
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- jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I really can’t think of a good reason to have this many active and posting accounts other than trying to get around something. I was extremely annoyed when I wrote this post, and honestly still am, hence why I posted this here. A filter per end user would be a better solution, like what PieFed has.
  
  I could have worded everything better. This should be a highlight of what could be done by one user.
  
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  - calliope@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It’s honestly driving me crazy that people are complaining about the wording.
    
    You posted it here consciously, it’s a “rant” community.
    
    This is the right place for something like this! The way you worded it wasn’t really problematic. It may have been if it was in a different community, but people are expecting lot from a rant.
    
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  - Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    I really can’t think of a good reason to have this many active and posting accounts other than trying to get around something.
    
    I can’t think of a lot of things too. Doesn’t mean those reasons don’t exist. He’s also actively given reasons in this thread. I’d suggest logging out and checking it or something else. Moreover, unless you have something to point to then the accusation is kind of reductive and harmful. You’re claiming he’s evading bans but have provided exactly zero evidence of this. 5 hours later, you’ve still not updated the post to remove the ban evasion claim or provide any evidence of it. I’ma be real… I find your behavior to be WAY more problematic than his. What’s he doing? Making multiple accounts and annoying you. What are you doing? Making a large thread firing accusations at someone with exactly zero evidence.
    
    I was extremely annoyed when I wrote this post, and honestly still am, hence why I posted this here.
    
    That doesn’t justify firing false accusations at someone. Questioning if someone does it is fine. You didn’t do that though. You outright said this was ban evasion tactics and that makes me feel really gross. I get your frustrations and I’m not minizing them but you’ve framed your frustrations and suspicions as fact, providing nothing to back yourself up other than the thing that annoys you and keep firing that same accusation by being aware of the wording error and not fixing it.
    
    This whole thread is… kind of gross. I’m not going to lie.
    
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- Gladaed@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It very clearly is ban evasion. At the same time the Lemmyverse does fundamentally not have the ability to stop this.
  
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  - Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    It very clearly is ban evasion.
    
    Prove it. “Very Clearly” is worth nothing. A hunch is worth nothing. If you don’t have something to actively point towards for that accusation, then it’s just a false accusation. Considering that he hasn’t been posting to places he’s been banned from, and the fact that it’s the same username so it is flat out idiotic to use the exact same username repeatedly if he’s trying to do that, your accusation doesn’t seem to have anything to stand on.
    
    At the same time the Lemmyverse does fundamentally not have the ability to stop this.
    
    Which, as we’ve established, is not actually problematic. Just annoying. Otherwise you’d all be linking to examples of him doing the things you’re claiming.
    
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- jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I have logged out and read all of the replies. I do not believe them to believe them to be truthful or in good faith based on timing alone. cm0002 made an account on an instance that was less than a day old. They even made a post about it. How in the world is that possible without automation? And to your other replies, yes, I am deliberately rocking the boat because I believe that people need to be aware that this kind of thing is possible. Also, one of the predominant complaints on Lemmy is multiple posts to many communities. I don’t think that there is a bigger offender. Many people see things multiple times and can’t stop it because of the account spam.
  
  I’ve calmed down a lot (re; your comment about me not being around - I needed to actually step back and get some perspective). While this was posted as a rant, I do stand by the initial points (though framing it as ban evasion was admittedly me just fuming). I should have punched a wall, or something instead - I don’t know. I’m not entirely intelligent nor emotionally stable by any means. I think something about hitting the block button one too many times made me snap.
  
  I really should just leave all kinds of social interactions because my brain can break like this, I guess. You’ve been fantastic to me and gave me a real shot at making good posts. My insane bipolar brain is telling me to run right now.
  
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  - Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It’s not automation, it’s just autism. You can see when new instances come online and he likes helping out small ones so he keeps an eye out.
    
    I get rocking the boat. That’s fine. I’m not saying don’t. I’m just perturbed by accusations made with zero evidence as if it’s just truth. I don’t recommend punching a wall (or running, shit happens), and ranting is what the community is there for, but question things more so than accuse.
    
    And while he is a friend, I’ve questioned before why he’s using so many alts and told him to chill the hell out. I also think he should on that front because I like him on lemmy otherwise. So I’m not just sitting on the sidelines completely defending him. Just… yea.
    
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  - cm0002@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    made an account on an instance that was less than a day old
    
    Honestly, I had no idea that they were only open for a day, I just peruse Lemmyverse.net and pick instances that seem interesting or have funny/cool sounding names 😂
    
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- JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I don’t like your block evasion either
  
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Kyrgizion@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
How would permablocking a certain username help? He’ll just change it. Not sure if IP bans are on the table, but those can be circumvented fairly trivially as well.

I can see how shadowbanning would help in such a case, but I’d rather not see such things on the platform at all if possible.

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- incompetent@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  How would permablocking a certain username help?
  
  It’s actually a pretty bad idea. Trolls would use it as a weapon. Argue with them and they’ll make an alt with your username then do stuff to get you (rather, your username) permabanned from Lemmy.
  
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Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
As far as I can tell, they are providing a valuable, wanted, service. It’s unfortunate.that it is impacting you negatively somehow, but I think people would prefer that they keep it up.

Is what they are doing bothering you, or did you just misunderstand the point of their behaviour, and assumed something malicious was going on?

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- jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The “service” has negative value. All it accomplishes is spam, doubling or quadrupling posts, and making every single user of a large instance out to be a tankie. There is also no shot it isn’t just a script or bot being run unless they themselves spend an insane amount of time on ml making the while “boycott” thing horseshit to begin with.
  
  And at this point, random instances are being starved of resources by the account spam (the federation takes disk space and bandwidth).
  
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  - cm0002@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    making every single user of a large instance out to be a tankie.
    
    I have not done this once, please provide receipts on this. I have very specifically been against the admins of .ml and select provable Tankie users of .ml
    
    There is also no shot it isn’t just a script or bot being run unless they themselves spend an insane amount of time on ml
    
    Well it isn’t, for one, the activity levels on .ml just isn’t that busy. For 2, I don’t personally watch .ml, I just have a hook into the RSS feed and just get a notification on my phone. Takes me <15 seconds to crosspost a post
    
    making the while “boycott” thing horseshit to begin with.
    
    It’s very well documented and evidenced why
    
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- BB84@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Hijacking this comment. If you find their service valuable, you should consider using this social media site, it has a lot more content and behavior similar to what cm002 post and do!
  
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zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Go touch some grass. I honestly appreciate what cm0002 is doing.

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- goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Appreciate what thought? An odd crusade against the devs of lemmy?
  
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lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Don’t know what you’re talking about, it’s poorly argued, and looks like frivolous rage, so
YOU MAD

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guynamedzero@piefed.zeromedia.vip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Tbh I kinda like it, I have .ml blocked, so if someone is going in there and filtering out the good content to post elsewhere, I’m not opposed.

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plz1@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I think the broader solution is approval-based instance federation. I know that’s a little anti-fed, but this type of attack has no other solution I can think of, and banning a username just means the attacker rotates those, (too).

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kip@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
it reflects extremely poorly on lemmy/threadiverse in general that this type of behaviour is tolerated at all let alone encouraged

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sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I have a similar setup here. Isn’t ban evasion more effective when you don’t reuse a username? Also I see this person’s posts on the top most days, what exactly are they getting banned for?

I’m using multiple instance handles like they’re subreddit clusters, which is why I didn’t bother changing my name. Seems like something that people who check a lot of different comms of different sizes do

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Alexstarfire@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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0ndead@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Yup, also have 30 blocks for this username

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UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Banning a username doesn’t solve the problem tho - you can create new accounts anyway. And banning accounts with similar names as well creates all kinds of problems.

Maybe some kind of probation could help? For example, a user could be invisible for everyone but their home instance for some time. If they are then reported and banned, they never appear on another instance to begin with. Could do this for both comments and content.

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HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
yeah I have a history with this guy who I thought was a bot but he responded back. apparently he just acts like a bot. Like his purpose in life is to post and he posts with wierd agendas rather than just because he is sharing things he likes. Sometimes people ask how many people you block and I always have to say how many of the blocks are like the same persons alts. as someone said he would just move to cm003 so for now im glad he is staying in a pattern so that I can just block right away.

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GammaGames@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Honestly I haven’t ever had a complaint against them, I don’t really pay attention to names and appreciate their effort to grow coms ml.

I do notice the constant complaining though, that’s annoying!

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dsilverz@calckey.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
@jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone @rant@lemmy.sdf.org

While I do remember seeing that user handle several times across the "New Comments" feed, I went through all my previous notifications and I couldn't find any interaction from/to they. So, I particularly had no problems with this person, just like I also never had problems with Hexbear users, despite seeing a whole Lemmy complaining about them.
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higgsboson@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Ive blocked them a ton of times myself. Summit (android client) lets me filter for username string.

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TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The way I see it, it can be made part of other features. Have names be auto-reserved locally between instances for future user migrations if they desire. That a user acting in bad faith retains the same name throughout different instances is merely coincidental - I doubt they won’t mind switching it up, specially if they are automating account creation and astrosurfing.

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Bazell@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Can someone explain what is wrong here?

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Maeve@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It's fed behavior, and not federated.

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Maeve@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It feels like mods/admins need to sort this or are actively complicit.

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13igTyme@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I wasn’t aware Piefed had this feature. Good to know.

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