Submitted 3 weeks ago by bzIlsn8Fxi@lemmy.world to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
it hit me while masturbating in the shower, i’m never going to be completely sober. i need drugs to function as a member of society. and that’s alright with me.
If you count coffee, tea and energy drinks as a drug, then there are a lot of people like this.
D.A.R.E. taught me that shampoo was a drug.
I stopped caring about being labeled as a ‘drug addict’ after learning that if that applies to everyone who regularly showers.
Unless it was caffeinated shampoo we’re going to need an explanation
I’m sorry wtf‽ Dare lied to me so much I can’t tell if this is sarcasm
Even more, if you count water as a drug.
I too used to think certain things in my life would never change - until they did.
It’s an interesting realization when you’ve been telling yourself for decades that you need something, only to quit it and discover that not only did you not need it, but you’re actually better off without.
and discover that not only did you not need it, but you’re actually better off without.
IMO it’s a bit like going to parties/events. When you’re young you might feel as if you have to go, and if you’re older you stop doing that, and you’re fine and don’t feel as if you would need that at all.
But at the same time, if you had never gone to these parties, you would spend the rest of your life wondering what you missed …
So the reason why you don’t need it is because you got enough of it in the past; had you never had it in the first place, you would miss it.
I had this exact, acute thought as I was going up the sweaty people filled stairs into a rave hall.
“What the hell am I doing” and also: “Would I do this if I were 53?”
I looked down at my hard abs and skin-tight shirt and had a bit of a Zen moment, thinking: “Youth is wasted on the young. You’re young. Enjoy this opportunity.”
I was 21, I danced and partied my heart out that night and I regret nothing.
Sorry to say but there‘s a hiccup in your thinking: How can you know you would miss it, if you don’t know it?
I don’t know of I‘d miss skydiving, if I miss diving, if I miss flying or even racing. Because I never did it. Still I don’t miss it.
Until you relapse.
Well, my close friends and I felt similar when we were young. Now we’re middle aged and realised we had a mix of undiagnosed neurodiversity, and are now are now on doctor-prescribed cannabis and/or stimulants.
I know that if my adhd meds were stopped, I’d have to go back to self-medicating with booze, weed and street drugs. But having access to reliable clean stimulants that help me do the stuff I want to do, have hobbies and keep a steady job and long-term relationships, has been life transforming. I’ve had a jar of weed in my drawer for over a year, because I’ve gone from smoking weed everyday to once every few months. And it’s not because I think weed is bad, or not fun, but just because my life is so much more rich and satisfying and busy (in a good way) that I don’t need to get baked to make it manageable.
How hard are we talking? Like need some thc in your system to deal with life? Popping percs? Functioning crackhead? There are levels
Personally I like to have a little weed buzz when I’m going about my day
That’s almost acceptable these days, as long as you’re not operating heavy machinery, responsible for taking care of others, or using it to escape a problem that could and should be addressed. And also not wrecking your lungs.
Only cannabis.
Ngl I still smoke weed most days but since dabbling with shrooms all the other stuff doesn’t appeal to me anymore. Shrooms have also changed my perspective on what drugs truly are. You probably don’t really need them. But it’s not the end of the world if you keep taking them. You’re sacrificing time, money, physical health and the ability to overcome boredom creatively for the option of controlling your feelings to a degree. If that’s a fair trade to you then by all means. Just be sure it’s not only the drugs speaking.
Yeah, shrooms really made me want to only consume things that grow from the Earth.
Of course, here I am on estrogen but the psilocybin hasn’t smacked me in the face over that yet so I think I may be good.
Watch out, lsd made me actually think about my gender. Which was fucking weird because it would’ve blown my mind had it happened before I transitioned. But no, I transitioned purely on “what body type would spare me from dysphoria?” And 4 years into estrogen acid is like “hey you know all that heady parts of gender some people talk about? Well you’re about to see how you interact with the divine feminine”
I love psychedelics but they can have some real personality to them, and they do cut down the frequency I want to drink.
I used to think I’d be addicted to nicotine forever and I’ve not smoked for over a year now, after 20 years on the stuff. Maybe you will change who knows?
Congrats.
Stay strong! I quit smoking many years ago and I still get cravings now and then.
A large percentage of “I need this drug/drink to function” people eventually face some measure of change in their lives that force them to start learning how to manage themselves without outside chemicals or medication.
It may be you, it may not be. The point is, don’t get set-in on “policy” because you may want to change your life. It does get old after a while.
humans have a long history of enjoying intoxicants that goes back before we were humans.
i think that is fine, too. but i do have to stop regularly. i gave up on the thought of quitting, though. i prefer to stop for months at a time with accepting the fact that society calls me a drug addict.
well honestly it's the creation of high attention / judgment tasks with high risk to human health and safety then making many of them either a part of daily life or making them jobs you have to do 8-12h straight 3-5 days a week. if we really valued human health and safety we'd keep those tasks much more specialized and make sure the people who do them have way more downtime to decompress but alas the capitalist wheel must keep turning.
That could be.
Also, are you relatively young? I think younger people tend to make more sweeping statements like this.
Enjoy :-)
I am 35-60 YO.
Man’s so high he can’t even narrow down his own age range
No way me too.
it hit me while masturbating in the shower,
What hit u ?
What’re we hitting?
An egregious epiphany. Life changing gnosis.
The acid
I can’t imagine how far off the rails someone has to be to be a daily acid user
Caffeine is a drug.
I was high for 20 years almost 24/7. I made some life changes and these days I get high maybe around 10 times a year. And those times that I do, its special and not just ordinary. Life is so much better when my brain can operate at a higher capacity. Not that I couldn’t cope while high - I was fine, but definitely not optimal, especially with short term memory. I guess if my job was not that demanding of mental clarity it would be a different situation.
Which drugs?
Yep
Marijuana.
There we go. Comradery. You are appreciated.
I like drugs and I’d enjoy them more if they don’t wreck havoc on your health. I had fun and all but I was at the point where I’m like it’s time to stop and just stopped. I still drink beers socially though. Might get back on them when I’m 60-70+ just because.
I have to admit being and staying sober is much easier for me if I frame it as “it’s a period in my life where I want to be sober, I choose to be sober, that doesn’t mean I have pledged to stay sober until I die”, and allowing myself the idea of a future where I will drink again feels relieving - although I realize it will most likely not happen. So your sentiment with getting back on drugs at 60-70+ resonates with me.
i need drugs to function as a member of society
That’s like the catch 22: taking drugs is antisocial behavior, but you can’t socialize without drugs. Wouldn’t want to be in your place.
Alcohol is a drug.
Yes, but if were posting “I’m a drug addict”, nobody would think of me as an alcoholic. Unless, ofc, my nick was al_Kaholic
personally i have periods of fluctuation. there are some months where i smoke weed every day, others of complete sobriety where im ‘addicted’ to yoga and cycling every day, and inbetween where i just use substances socially with friends or at gatherings like raves.
You know there is nothing stopping you from getting high AND doing yoga and cycling every day!
Running long distances high is probably my favorite thing in the world.
omg yeah, combining them all to go on a high bike ride with friends sounds AMAZING
i better organize something before it snows cuz that might give them second thoughts about it; wouldn’t stop me tho 😂🥶
I think a big issue with this whole drug situation is that people have a very wrong idea about addiction. Addictive things are NOT universally addictive. It is actually you who make things that way to yourself. Not in the sense of conscious action, of course, but rather your inner intuitive way of adapting to the world around you.
If you think of it, drugs are always destructive so why would anyone ever need to destroy themseves? Well, if you dig deeper, you’ll discover a big existential conflict in those people that they cope with that way. By disrupting brain function, by suppressing their reasoning, they also suppress their inner conflict - and that’s what produces the positive effect. Whereas on their own, drugs are pure poisoning. That is the reason why many people just don’t like drugs.
I myself am an example. I got drunk a couple of times and contrary to what others told me about relaxation and feeling happy, i just felt poisoned (same with smoking btw). I wasn’t able to properly think and had a sensation of loosing the grip on reality which scared the shit out of me. There was no happiness, it literally felt like partially dying. Later on, my friend told me it was actually that very effect of not being able to think that she liked. It freed her of her everlasting anxiety and was the only thing that let her feel peace for a while. And I heard similar stories from many people.
So if you’re addicted to something, try to ask yourself: what do you want to suppress inside of you? And instead of suppressing it, try to resolve the conflict. Find what is missing in your life. It is most certainly something very deep and existential - not just a family and a house. Maybe you lack the feeling of the self and you fear being engulfed by the outer reality, maybe you haven’t still mentally separated from your parents (even if you’re old) and your whole inner world is mere representation and continuation of theirs. In any case, after you solve that big problem, there will be no more need in self destruction and your addiction will probably just fade away.
I used to think like this… still do.
Can’t really touch weed anymore, it’s the only drug I lose control of every time and then it interferes with my life. I also don’t know anyone in my circle who likes their daily habit of smoking, except for those where it really helps medicinally.
If you get high to cope, your situation might change, and then you might stop getting high. If you get high because you’re stubborn, well, that sucks.
I’ve been using cannabis for years and I love it. I am generally careful when it comes to developing dependencies. I check myself every once in a while and I don’t self medicate or pretend I’m taking it for pain or sleep or whatever. I take it because I like being high and I’m not ashamed of it.
I am worried about long-term effects. Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s really freak me out and it would suck if there turned out to be a link there. But there’s a good chance something else will kill me before I get there and I’m not sure I want to give up something I so thoroughly enjoy just to live a little longer.
I tried taking a hiatus in January. I read about mental clarity coming back and feeling more rested. I felt none of those things. I also didn’t feel any intense cravings or withdrawal symptoms. Just boredom and dissatisfaction with life in general and I don’t have a lot of hope of that changing with or without weed.
I’ve smoked weed every day for years and couldn’t imagine life without it
honestly no one should have to rawdog life in this day and age As long as you aren’t hurting anyone, rock on, friend
I feel this way too. And have a similar history of other types of drugs used. Not that I chose to stop doing them tho but really lost access (plug stopped plugging).
My partner is concerned about the smoke in my lungs, which is a fair point. So I do mostly edibles, only weed these days. I still have a couple pre-rolls on hand in case a friend stops over or I don’t wanna wait 2 hours for the gummies to hit.
I can stop long enough to pass a drug test, I have a stable job, I own a house, have a partner of 8 years now (wow) so I wouldn’t consider myself a “failure” or a “junkie” or anything like that.
Being high is just better imo. I feel better, I smile more, I worry less. The only downside is if i go spaceman and my partner wants to have a serious talk she’s just SoL for a few hours but all in all I don’t think I’ll ever stop and tbh I don’t really want to.
I feel much better after reading this thread
“Mairjuana is not a drug… It’s a plant! It jist grow like that! Drugs you gotta do shit to chemically and shit!”
Do you have goals and motivation to pursue them? Owning a home, building a family, owning a business or a successful career?
So, I have PTSD and a whole other laundry list of disorders, and weed is the only thing that ever helped with the exhaustion from hyper vigilance and obsessive thinking, nightmares, appetite, muscle tension etc. without horrendous side effects.
I’ve been sober for like 6 months or something and it’s been miserable. It’s so not worth it it’s not even funny. I’m even less capable of working a job or doing house work. THC is a miracle drug for a lot of people and it’s fucking criminal that’s it’s illegal and demonized the way it is.
Not op but still a Smoker for 15+ years. Do you think those things are not possible? There are people into far more dangerous intoxicants doing all of that.
For me I don’t think I smoke alot. I go through about .5 grams over the course of a day. And while doing so I have traveled, volunteered for over a year abroad, Found love, settled, switched careers, found a job and saved up enough money to start looking for land so I can employ my self.
Overconsumption og anything is bad, having a glass of wine for dinner every day isn’t going to make you an alcoholic, smoking some bud doesn’t make you dumb og lazy or any of that reefer madness propagand bullshit. You are who you are, if you’re lazy on weed you’re lazy without weed as well.
I was lazy and unmotivated smoking weed, I am stilll lazy and unmotivated without smoking weed, only now I’m bored as well.
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Few things are so normal and natural as a human consuming substances that change their conscious perception and mind.
Caffeine, often forgotten is by far the most consumed drug in the world being used by roughly 85% of people globally. “First coffee, then work” is a testimonial to how benign this fact is.
But what if you don’t like caffeine, what if you simply prefer the effects of something else? It’s your body, no one should be able to tell an adult what they can do with their own body and mind.
Just be conscious about it.
Know what you are taking.
Understand why you take it.
Study, learn what it actually does and how different doses/methods affect you.
Find how it does not affect you, what it can’t fix.
Look for help when you need it and don’t feel shameful for asking such. You are human after all.
viscacha@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
This! Skilful use of substances is the key. Understand why you take it, how it works in your body and what you can do to get closer to the desired state or effect without using.
That is also why I believe the differentiation between legal and illegal substances is not helpful, as it often leads to a more careless (ab)use of legal substances like alcohol.