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Apple has REMOVED the ICEBlock app from the App Store due to “objectionable content.”

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Submitted ⁨⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨RandAlThor@lemmy.ca⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

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  • DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    When I had an iPhone 3GS I got in a hot tub with it in my pocket and it died. I let it dry out. Then I very carefully took it apart and found all the little white stickers inside that turn from white to pink when in contact with water. I used a razor blade to remove those stickers without damaging them. I then placed a drop of bleach on each which turned them back to white and let them dry out. I used very tiny amounts of super glue to re-apply them to the exact same positions within the phone and then very carefully reassembled the phone.

    Took the phone into an Apple store. Guy disappeared into the back for about 10 minutes with it. Came back out and said it must have just up and died but he doesn’t know how and gave me a new iPhone.

    Only Apple product I’ve ever owned.

    Fuck you Apple.

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  • Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And this is why having 3rd party app stores is important. It’s why it matters that Google is killing side loading, if two fucking companies get to decide what you can do on your phone, we’re in a bad spot technology wise

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    • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We’re in a bad spot technology wise

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      • Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        No doubt. I’ve gotten to the point where I have like 6 apps on my phone and it’s in lockdown mode on iOS. And I’d be on grapheneOS if I wasn’t required to use iOS for work.

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      • jonne@infosec.pub ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And the open source movement is such a blind spot to the ‘left’ as well, even though technology freedom is critical if you want to be able to organise any type of resistance in the digital space.

        Lemmy users largely get it, obviously, but centre left people will happily let themselves get locked into the Apple/Google walled gardens even though you’re just giving that company a ridiculous amount of power over you.

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      • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        We rapidly need to switch Linux Mobile. PostmarketOS and Mobian are the two most promising projects, and I would highly recommend anyone reading this to donate to them if you have the means.

        Both projects directly use your donations to hire developers to build and polish the critical essentials to get this alternative viable as a daily driver.

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      • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah, people should have listened to the people warning of privacy concerns with online services. Now that your data is valuable, companies will do anything to extract it from you.

        Stop using those products, de-Google, install Linux, use self-hosted solutions.

        It will take some effort to switch. You get to decide how much effort you’re willing to expend in order to not sacrifice all of your privacy and control of your digital lives.

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      • quitethekiwi@lemmy.nz ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Just technology wise? I think it’s a little deeper than just technology unfortunately

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    • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “Sideloading” is their term, invented to make it sound like something it is not. We should not use this word. The correct word is “installing”.

      You don’t “sideload” on Windows when you install software outside of the Microsoft Store™️. There is no real difference or distinction with software on phones, so there is no need for a special word.

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      • jonne@infosec.pub ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I can see Microsoft moving to the same sort of thinking as well. Apple already made Mac OS users jump through hoops when you want to install something from the internet or even through a third party package manager like homebrew.

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      • blargh513@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Not to defend it, but the first time I encountered the term was when BlackBerry released their Playbook tablet. It ran their bbos10 and they created an android emulator so you could run some android apps. The process of installing the apk into the emulator was called sideloading.

        I miss BlackBerry is all I really wanted to say.

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      • b_tr3e@feddit.org ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        “Install” includes installing from an app store no matter how closed down and exlusive. The correct term would be “install from other sources than an app store” which is just clunky. Calling it “sideloading” won’t change that nor will calling it “your mom”. Considering how many corporate-speak terms are in use and how many braindead abbreviations and terms shortened to a word’s last syllable -completely distorting the original meaning- generally are in use, the term “sideloading” is pretty irrelevant. Either lose your mind listening to the bullshit people permanently are emitting or just live with it…

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      • Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Not yet.

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    • Tiger666@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Your phone is fucking you no matter what you do.

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    • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If people were more aware of how to make and install mobile web apps it would be less of a problem.

      At least on the iPhone you can still add a site to your screen that can behave a lot like an app, including camera access, location services, and even gyro. And it’s just a website like most “apps” are.

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      • shrugs@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Most people don’t care about any of that. Firefox with AdBlock to surfe YouTube without ads? Nah, they want the app, which is basically the same, but at least they can’t block ads. I stopped trying to understand

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      • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There is a great app called ‘hermit’ on android that gives you a better wepapp experience. Basically a browser tuned to make we apps act native.

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      • batterystapled@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Mm

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      • batterystapled@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Mm

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    • kender242@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “Hurd OS? Isn’t that obsolete?” “Not obsolete. Just… illegal.” ~Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge

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    • simplejack@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Honestly, this thing should just been a PWA. Making this naive app was dumb.

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    • artyom@piefed.social ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Google is not killing sideloading. If the dev is willing to submit to Apple for verification, they’d probably not object to submitting it to Google.

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      • 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Google is not killing sideloading. If the dev is willing to submit

        I see…

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      • dev_null@lemmy.ml ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes, and then they ban that developer and their apps. It doesn’t matter you can install apps outside of the Play Store, if Google still controls which apps you are allowed to install.

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  • letsgo2themall@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    remember when Tim Apple gifted tRump a golden statue? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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    • __hetz@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I remember him being gifted a golden pager and I’m still holding out hope that he gets the call.

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    • freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, but are Apple users going to punish Apple for glazing Trump’s tiny manhood by not buying Apple products?

      Tim Apple certainly doesn’t think so.

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      • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨57⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        It’s really not that bad a compromise, as far as bribes go. Some cheap gaudy bauble as payment for not interfering with billions of dollars in business?

        It’s still a bribe and it’s still encouraging mango mussolini, but very efficient tradeoff

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  • Luffy879@lemmy.ml ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Does anyone remember how the Devs from there didnt want to release for Android because ApPlE iS sOoOo mUcH mOoOrE sEcUrE

    Get rekt.

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    • DupaCycki@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      In terms of security alone, iPhones easily beat most Android phones. Which may be a fair argument in favor of iPhones. However, to ignore Apple’s policies and long history of delisting similar apps is delusional.

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      • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        In regards to security, Apple does have three upsides, and only those:

        • No sideloading and no unlocked bootloader means you can’t sideload malware or install malware-preloaded ROMs. No root also means you can’t just install malware that uses root access.
        • Long OS support means fewer people run around with iPhones that are 5 OS versions behind.
        • There’s no tiny boutique iPhone manufacturers who sell phones that come pre-loaded with malware.

        The solution for the first one is “don’t sideload untrusted stuff” and the solution to the second and third one is “buy an Android phone from a trusted manufacturer that has long term OS support”.

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      • sadfitzy@ttrpg.network ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Always funny watching apple users think they know something.

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      • nialv7@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You say that based on what?

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      • Taldan@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        In terms of security alone, iPhones easily beat most Android phones

        That’s not how security works in the modern tech landscape. No major OS is going to meet a high security standard out of the box. All of them have to be configured to the desired security level, then be added to ongoing security efforts. Every major OS can be secured to the highest security standards

        The primary difference is how much effort each takes, but even then there isn’t much of a difference. You’ll find tooling and in-house expertise makes a much larger difference than the OS

        The myth that some OS are inherently secure really needs to die off

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    • modus@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      fire-app.net

      There’s a similar app for Android.

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      • Luffy879@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Same problems

        Not open source for once

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  • teolan@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is cowardice from Apple, but ICEBlock was not a good app:

    • Micah Lee: Unfortunately, the ICEBlock app is activism theater
    • Micah Lee: ICEBlock handled my vulnerability report in the worst possible way
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  • HalfSalesman@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This kind of thing is coming for Android as well once Google has converted it to it’s own walled garden bullshit.

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  • dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is why the web is way better than any app store. Any future phones should have a first class web experience imo.

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    • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s how I browse Lemmy - I sometimes forget that my home-pinned app, Voyager, isn’t actually from the app store.

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    • AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What the fuck is a DIDs?

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      • maximumbird@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I had to look it up too

        Apparently it stands for “decentralized identifiers”

        From what I’m gathering it’s a client based web protocol That works in conjunction with DNS

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    • wabasso@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m only just learning about this, but don’t the encrypted DNS protocols solve the privacy problem?

      Or do you mean more like not being able to trust a registrar or public DNS server?

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      • Taldan@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Usually when people complain about DNS, they’re talking about stability issues. In this case I think he’s pointing out how centralized it is, and how a bad actor could cause significant issues

        At a local level, the most common issue I know of is ISPs blocking sites at the DNS level by feeding in fake information that redirects you to one of the ISP’s blocked/parked domains. Usually implemented to prevent customers going to piracy sites. It’s not much of an issue to subvert currently, as you can simply use any public DNS provider

        That being said, much of that has been consolidated into a dozen or so tech companies. In the current political climate, I could see a coordinated effort happening between those tech companies to block sites deemed non gratis. Obviously there’s still ways to subvert it, but the vast majority of user’s won’t be able to

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  • RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This shouldn’t be on the app store. It gives the US government too much access to pull data from it, or order it pulled down. This should be a web app that can be accessed by any device and can be obscured by VPN access so the regime can’t persecute participants. Apps pull way too much data from phones that ICE can subpoena.

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    • Taldan@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Disclaimer: The app is closed source, so all we can go off is the developer’s word, although the fact the government removed it is a strong indicator they don’t have access to data from the app

      The developer stated they do not even retain any identifying data, so the only data the government could get is public anyway. Through Apple they’d be able to see who downloaded it, and likely when it was used. Your defense would be easy enough though: “I just wanted to make sure the libs weren’t harassing our fascist patriotic ICE agents near me”

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  • jontree255@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m surprised it stayed up as long as it did. I thought Apple would have taken it down within days.

    Anyways I’ve seen this as a non app alternative: www.stopice.net

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    • Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I mean yeah honestly probably the best, but I’ll take any chance to rant against the idea of walled garden tech

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    • ohellidk@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Would I be paranoid to use a VPN while visiting this site? (And others like it) god only knows if IP’s visiting the site could be uncovered…

      Yeah, I’m probably being paranoid…

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      • jontree255@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Not a bad idea. Just make sure your VPN doesn’t cooperate with law enforcement or sell your data otherwise.

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      • 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Would I be paranoid to use a VPN

        Or tor.

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    • fluxion@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Back to the WWW just like the good ol days

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  • sudoer777@lemmy.ml ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Good thing I got revenge though on Google’s sideloading ban by buying a phone that never allowed it to begin with”

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    • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We should make webapps for everythink. When done properly they are as fast as native apps, can work on any device and do not require a dev license or account.

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      • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They’re now supported on Firefox on Android, so good news!

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      • donalonzo@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Completely agreed. Nowadays we even have WASM that can run more advanced things, and may even give w3bapps sandboxed capabilities, and can be run natively on any device with a WASM runtime.

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      • darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Funny thing: before the App Store, the original plan for the iPhone was that all third-party apps should be webapps.

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      • ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Sweet solution

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    • baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de [bot] ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      there are technically alternative marketplaces on iOS in the EU, but they do the exact thing google is now copying off apple: apple still has to give the green light

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  • Reygle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Oh no

    Was likely a honeypot the whole time…

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  • Mwa@thelemmy.club ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    the USA Goverment probably forced them to remove it

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    • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      not probably; the doj forced apple to remove it and apple caved: https://www.404media.co/iceblock-owner-after-apple-removes-app-we-are-determined-to-fight-this/

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      • Mwa@thelemmy.club ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        ofc

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    • bigfondue@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They probably just hinted. These companies are eager to please Trump. Remember the trophy Tim Apple gave Trump? Capitalists love fascism.

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      • Mwa@thelemmy.club ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        oh yeah,makes sense tho

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    • DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No, they don’t have to. The corporations are the ones who want to control everyone. The U.S government is just a tool for them. The politicians are basically just actors at this point.

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    • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      no shit

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  • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What’s objectionable about it Apple? Hmm?

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    • ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They can only buy a politician so many gold statues.

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  • TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I miss my Blackberry Curve. ☹️

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  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Who could have seen this coming from the company whose CEO gifted Trump a literal gold plaque in celebration of his reelection?

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    • 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hey, you know nothing about the absurd pressure billionaire CEO’s are unde/sr

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  • Aljernon@lemmy.today ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Fuck Apple but honestly this app is like trying to stay warm with matches in Antarctica.

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Fuck Apple and I’d prefer matches in Antarctica to no matches in Antarctica.

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s about as useful as a canary in a coal mine.

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  • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s really sickening that every corporation has thrown in with the new fascist regime.

    At least these assholes used to pretend to be “not absolutely awful”. Now they’re just mask-off oppressors.

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    • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s no accident that capital is aligned with fascist. Line must go up.

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    • b_tr3e@feddit.org ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s not that it’s not profitable for them.

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  • ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The corporate sector will always back a fascist government.

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    • frunch@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      For instance: Volkswagen and Coco Chanel’s ties to Nazi Germany

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  • the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Keep on buying, y’all. Show 'em we mean business when we’re appalled at their actions. Giving them more money will surely let them know how much we want change!

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  • MetalMachine@feddit.nl ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You see why Google attempting to lock down installing whatever apps you want is a bad idea? This is an example of what will happen.

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  • Ilixtze@lemmy.ml ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Tech companies have never been our friends.

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  • plz1@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Why not just make it a website? We’re not doing censoring yet, right?

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  • bitwolf@sh.itjust.works ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Something sensitive like this really should be a PWA (and web app for iOS users)

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  • sundray@lemmus.org ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    objectionable content

    Sheer fucking cowardice

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  • herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is why Android is far far better than Apple, despite its faults.

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  • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Image

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  • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    apple and the us government and ice can all suck a dick

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  • lowleekun@ani.social ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Walled garden = poop town

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  • sircac@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    ICE is objectionable… did they got “confused”?

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  • PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I wish we could use a “regular” app like Waze and start reporting “icy weather” as code for ICE. I mean we can, but idk how to make it a thing. Kinda how they were using “winter boots” as code on TikTok for ICE to get around the censors.

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