4k is nice but at 1440p the diminishing returns are pretty obvious doubt 8k is somehow going to change that
Big Surprise—Nobody Wants 8K TVs
Submitted 2 months ago by TheImpressiveX@lemmy.today to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.howtogeek.com/big-surprisenobody-wants-8k-tvs/
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snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 months ago
There aren’t really any 1440p TVs out there. They’re either 1080p or 4K.
Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I want one but my GPU can’t drive games at 8k and 100+ FPS. Also there’s no media for it.
TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 2 months ago
games at 8k and 100+ FPS
You will never be able to game at 8k. Modern games run with 720p and 60 fps on the best GPUs, then “AI enhanced” to a vaseline coated 4k
Gerudo@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
I have a 3080 and have all frame gen tech turned off, and still, almost every game I play can hit 60+ fps and 2k resolution, a lot can do 144. I get your point, but it’s greatly exaggerated.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 months ago
Modern games run with 720p and 60 fps on the best GPUs
No they don’t. On PC you can run games at native resolution with zero “AI enhanced” stuff.
Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I run DOOM eternal at 4k with a stable 120 fps (not the AI enhanced interpolation garbage) with a 3080…
I couldn’t imagine going back to gaming at 60fps and is a big reason I hate console ports.
addie@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Speaking as a developer; I’ve a 4K screen which is amazing for having loads of source files open at the same time, and also works for old or undemanding games. Glorious Eggroll’s version of Proton has all the FSR patches in it, so you can ‘upscale anything’. Almost any modern game, I’m going to be running at lower resolution, usually either 1440p or the slightly odd 2954 x 1662. Generally, highest-quality graphics and upscaling looks better than medium-quality native to me, for games where I have to compromise.
I would be interested in an 8K display for coding, as long as the price is reasonable. I’m not spending five grand, that would be crazy. But I’d still be upscaling for playing games, as basically no GPU could drive that many pixels.
fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 2 months ago
What’s your opinion on using 8K TV as a monitor?
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Gotta get people to replace their tvs somehow so dangle an “upgrade”.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
My viewing position is about 330cm/11ft from the wall where my tv is mounted. That works out to roughly 80” television for 4K viewing pleasure. www.rtings.com/…/size-to-distance-relationship
8k would be ridiculous.
the_q@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
And yet people want 4k screens on phones and 13in tablets…
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 months ago
I think most phone nerds understand that 4K on a phone is not necessary.
the_q@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Yeah we know, but the other 98% of phone buyers only know “number go up better”.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’ll take an 8k computer monitor though. In fact, send two. Kthnx.
cynar@piefed.social 2 months ago
Uncompressed 1080 is already approaching the eyes resolution limit, when viewing it in a living room environment. 4K is close to the monitor usage limit.
The reason that 4K seems better is often down to bandwidth and colour depth.
There's zero benefit to an 8K TV. An 8K monitor might be useful, but is still well into the diminishing returns curve.
There's still some ground to be made up with colours and frame rates, but resolution is effectively maxed out already.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’d buy a 8k TV, provided that it has no smarts, no WiFi, no TV tuner and its price isn’t over 5% than a 4k TV
bufalo1973@europe.pub 2 months ago
So an 8K monitor.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Somehow when it’s called a “monitor” it quadruples the price.
I can’t really accept that a basic 4k 27" monitor without even speakers costs the same of a 4k 65" TV with HDR, deeper blacks, WiFi and a whole spyware operating system
goatinspace@feddit.org 2 months ago
Open Source 10K TV please
winni@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I found quite some 4k movies being more noisy than their 2k pendant. So whats the point?
rezad@lemmy.world 2 months ago
maybe that was the remastering process issues. also maybe 4k movies are not actually 4ks and are AI upscalers from actual 2k masters.
MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I can’t see ever owning an 8k display unless it’s like 200 inches… The ones that are available now are too expensive to be a justifiable purchase and there’s not really an abundance of content that takes advantage of the format.
tomkatt@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I mostly use my TV for gaming and watching old movies and anime.
The former task will be unviable at 8k and make my GPU cry, and the latter one makes 8k unnecessary.
I really don’t see the point in 8k displays right now.
arin@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I want it, but at affordable prices
tomkatt@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 2 months ago
One thing, my current 4k TV/monitor does a pretty nice job upscaling 1080p. It, of course, doesn’t look as good as native 4k, but it looks considerably better than 1080p not upscaled. So even without native 8k content, there is some value in being able to upscale 4k content to 8k.
ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
lol but you can have FHD the same size as that tv lmao
ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Also have you seen 720HD with 10 bit color? Looks better than 1080p when it was released. Seen 1080p 14 bit color? Looks better than 4k when it came out.
Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
Makes sense:
No Media support.
And also on Monitors and Tvs i don’t care if it’s a. 1080p or 1440p of 4k give me 1080pcaptainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah until I can get a 8ki instead of 8kp I’ll hold off /s
Fr though both sound similarly ridiculous
CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 2 months ago
BR standards haven’t caught up, that’s probably the answer for most who can afford it.
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You already need a 3080 to even approach modern 4k and unless some new media/disk format, it just ain’t going to happen and isn’t worth it.
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
3070 is enough for most stuff at 4k 60 medium. Not all the newer stuff though.
kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Even my rusty 1080TI works well with 4K on most titles from ca 2-3 years old.
vane@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Put them into Microsoft Windows as mandatory enabled or something.
iopq@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Honestly, at 3m (10 feet) I can’t see the pixels at 1080p. My corrected vision is no longer 20/20
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bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 months ago
LASIK actually made a huge difference in being able to appreciate the sharpness of 4K, but I doubt 8K is as big a leap.