cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/35800407
Related: Meta’s chatbots held ‘sensual’ chats with kids, offered false medical info.
ted nugent decided to use facebook even more for the same reason
Neil Young Leaves Facebook & Instagram Over “Unconscionable” Policies for AI Chatbot Conversations With Children
Submitted 1 month ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
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cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Oh, is Ted having trouble finding jailbait these days?
mitch@piefed.mitch.science 1 month ago
Well, it's not like Ted Nugent is writing any new music. He probably doesn't have anything better to do anyway.
turdburglar@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
i mean really tho, how much more does he have after wang dang sweet poontang?
fuken magnum opus direct from the southern fried shakespeare right there.
there were about 4 minutes when i was 13 that i thought he was worth listening to.
Hobo@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’m sure he is still capable of shitting his pants and not showering.
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
On the one hand, that’s good, but on the other hand, Meta crossed my line over eight years ago, and I’m woefully disappointed that he was using it until this point.
mitch@piefed.mitch.science 1 month ago
I guess, but you will lead a lonely life if you can't find common struggle with people in different scenarios than our own. We can easily lose our soul with these endless purity tests — for some reason, Leftists, progressives, and liberals seem to be constantly on the lookout for the next Jesus Christ, who will just simply energize voters by consequence of, I dunno, magic or some shit.
Neil Young is still a working musician who needs to get his face and music in front of as wide and as general of an audience as possible — why wouldn't they be where people are? That's what makes this stand so important. Homie needs Facebook and Insta and still said no.
FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I think that attitude is a trap, and what got us into this mess in the first place. If more people did what Young did, these platforms wouldn’t have the power (which we give them) to unleash as much harm on the world. Your suggestion implies that we should all wait for others to move first. That’s the definition of paralysis.
And with a net worth the size of Young’s, it’s simply not true to say he “needs” to use those platforms, except in the more privileged misuse of the word. They’re luxury items for him.
KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 1 month ago
What is up with these CAPS? Are we copying the typographic INCONTINENCE of Trump?
RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I have noticed people have changed the way they type since around 2016, when trump became president. The amount of people putting “Sad.” Behind a sentence is mindblowing. He gave so many people severe brainworms.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Using caps for emphasis in places where formatting options don’t exist is a practice as old as the internet. I remember doing it in the usenet days.
LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
I think a lot of that started ironically and then bled over to normal conversations.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
He gave so many people severe brainworms.
Luckily not you though. That Ivermectin helped!
random_character_a@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Oh that is not all. Future generations might be able to map all the brain rot that man has caused.
victorz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
typographic incontinence
This term tickled my linguizzle gland.
Zink@programming.dev 1 month ago
With a single word in caps like that, I read it as yelling the word loudly.
The way it’s used here, by a PR conscious intermediary, it comes across more like bitter sarcasm. Like he would not let them release the statement on his behalf unless they yelled Facebook’s name when calling them out. It is similar to when a child tells their sibling they aren’t allowed to do something, but they say it loudly enough so that everybody understands the parent in the next room hears it too.
j4yt33@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
Quite a normal thing to do no? Way before Trump got elected
Pxtl@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I mean he’s literally a boomer.
Faith_Bubbles@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
To me, it might signal unwillingness to work with Facebook, but still willingness to work with Meta.
nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Neil Young and Dolly Parton
Role models we need but don’t deserve
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Once again, Neil Young reminds us that he has a gargantuan penis.
roserose56@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Once again like others said, drop Facebook!
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I agree but fb is the only place for musicians and show/event notifications, not to mention TONs of non tech savvy small businesses use fb SOLELY for their business info and hours.
Its never going away.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
If a business uses Facebook only, I boycott them.
Facebook and Instagram won’t let me view any of it anyways, but a business should have principles.
nightlily@leminal.space 5 weeks ago
Bands In Town works pretty well for all the bands I follow.
roserose56@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Business info can be found anywhere through duckduckgo, google or with a phone call! I never knew that musicians use FB, I guess for promotions ? After leaving FB I used YouTube and bandcamp for new music.
mrlemmyhimself@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
There was this new technology in the 80s that took over in offices. It became so ubiquitous that people bought the machines to have at home, and it found a less-than-optimal use-case as a general communication device. In the 90s, as its popularity boomed, it would be totally reasonable to make the same assessment you just made, that they would never go away. But when was the last time you used a fax machine?
Logical@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
If Miss Information gets married, does she become Mrs Information?
roserose56@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Lol good one!
GhostTheToast@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Only reason I have Facebook is Facebook marketplace. Would love for some to create a alternative. Craigslist and OfferUp are nice, but the Facebook algorithm is more like local ebay. It might not tell me the most recent stuff or make it easy to sort by category, but it’s awesome at giving me recommendations.
slumberlust@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
At least you can understand how others justify their continued use based on the lack of no perfect alternative, even in the face of the current solutions imperfections.
Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Didn’t have to look far for that heart of gold, seems he already had it.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I almost didn’t get your joke there, good one.
Also, if you’re into low/no budget films, Hooker With a Heart of Gold is a great one, but it’s like 15-20 years old and it shows.
Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This looks like the exact garbage I love, I’ll definitely have to watch it.
ThillyGooth@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Good on him. I’m going to make it a point to listen to more Neil Young.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
I did the same about 12 ish years ago as it was already becoming a misinformation machine.
ReiRose@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Yes! And those wierd psychology experiments they were doing? Gross. www.bbc.com/news/technology-28051930 I left in 2014 passively (stopped daily use) then 2017 stopped any interaction
zululove@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Omg thank you for sharing this.
I’ve been telling people they have tech using advanced AI that serves you a post to make you feel exactly how they want you to feel.
It’s really effective on X. narratives play out for long periods of time.
They could convince everyone the sky was red if they wanted to.
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
I feel like more people should know what’s going on. Facebook has done some scummy stuff in the past. Now Zuck is openly defending his AI grooming children. In and of itself it doesn’t make a lot of sense — what’s the upshot for Meta here? But outside the bubble of logic, it sets kids up to be groomed by real predators. It’s unacceptable.
People say the problem is that all the people they know are on Facebook. Two issues: most of those people would forget you exist if you leave Facebook. Also, you’re the reason they’re there. The second reason is that you are literally the product. You being on Facebook is part of the reason those people are, too, so be the change you want to see in the world.
AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
most of those people would forget you exist if you leave Facebook
This is 100% true. I dropped facebook about 10 years back. If I’m not your “friend” without facebook, then you’re not really my friend. Getting out of that cesspool of drama and ignorance was one of the best moves I’ve made.
blackfox@lemmings.world 5 weeks ago
what’s the upshot for Meta here?
I’m a firm-believer that there is some data point somewhere that indicates this will make them more money somehow, so that’s why they do this.
This companies aren’t run by people; they’re run by data.
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Facts
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
You use(d) Facebook to stay connected. I use Facebook (with any empty profile) to engage/troll Trump supports. We are not the same.
But seriously, it’s interesting to use it to delve into the right wing zeitgeist.
For example, do not believe the narrative that they are upset about the Epstein list. They’ve been given marching orders to blame it on Biden “because if there was something there why didn’t Biden release it” and “a liberal just withheld the grand jury testimony, so it’s their fault” – don’t bother with the reality or nuance around of any of this, it doesn’t matter to them. They are a cult.
These are the type of people who would dismiss their own child coming forward with moleststion claims and allowing the abuse to continue. I am not exaggerating here. I had one demand physical evidence of Trump raping children; literally demand child porn be distrusted to them before they’ll
be convinced.reshift the goalpost.
Dayroom7485@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
So based 🙏
Phegan@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Neil young is a real one.
TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 1 month ago
A musician/celebrity with high moral standards and personal integrity, imagine that, huh?
Pacattack57@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I deleted my FB in 09 because of the social expectations and toxicity that came from it. Definitely in my top 10 best decisions of my life.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Well I hope Neil Young will remember: Zuckerberg don’t need him around, anyhow.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
I got the reference
andxz@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I hope Zuckerberg remembers nobody wants him around either. He probably thinks that 30 mil/year makes him bulletproof, the little shit.
mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 month ago
People over platforms.
Im28xwa@lemdro.id 1 month ago
next, all mainstream social media
Pechente@feddit.org 1 month ago
I prefer „corporate social media“ or „legacy social media“ as a differentiator from the Fediverse. If anything in the Fediverse ever becomes truly mainstream, that’s completely fine
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
I call it corpocrap
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Why did it take this long? Facebook and Instagram use signals support of facism.
ReiRose@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The best time to leave Facebook was years ago. The second best time is now 💪
MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
He did the same thing on spotify and a little while later all his songs (at least the ones I had in my playlists) were back.
whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
The Almighty dollar always wins doesn’t it Neal lol
someguy3@lemmy.world 1 month ago
What the background on AI chatbots with kids?
uhmbah@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
am i supposed to care about this?
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
If you don’t care, don’t comment.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
It would help to know why one should care as not everyone is in the know what this person is about.
blackfox@lemmings.world 5 weeks ago
He doesn’t have to follow orders from you.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
If you don’t care, don’t whine.
MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
get fucked.
leastaction@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I did the same earlier this year for exactly this reason. Glad to know I’m in such good company.
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
How are people still on Facebook, I dropped it the moment my parents made Facebook accounts and that was before all the horrible stuff about the cokpany even came out I think
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
I still cant understand how people got onto there in the first place. When it came out it was obviously a bad idea.
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I only created an account out of social pressure and never understood what others get out of it, I don’t even want to look at my own pics why would I care to look at my friends or any other posts they make for they matter and that was back when Facebook wasn’t just a content feed and actually showed you your friends updates.
zululove@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
We need to take down the social media mafia.
potato_wallrus@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
What’s going on with AI talking to kids?
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Meta had put guidelines in place allowing romantic and sensual conversations with children, such as calling an 8 year olds body a work of art apparently.
potato_wallrus@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
My expectations were low, but Jesus christ
plyth@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
Please somebody tell him about mastodon and lemmy.
blackfox@lemmings.world 5 weeks ago
Friendica is the logical successor to facebook.
m3t00@piefed.world 5 weeks ago
he distributes himself.
mintiefresh@piefed.ca 1 month ago
Honestly, good on him.
More people should do the same.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
He took a principled stance when he left Spotify too, after they paid hundreds of millions for Joe Rogan’s podcast.
ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m pretty sure his label put his stuff back on there, despite his wishes. I seen to remember a need article at the time describing his reaction as “disappointed”. Not all of his stuff is back on there, but I guess the stuff he didn’t have full control over is.
Personally, I don’t listen to Joe Rogan, but I do listen to Neil Young. And Spotify is the way I typically listen to anything since they killed the SD Card on most mobile phones. So it hurt me, and I assume it hurts anyone who would want to listen to both and only gets the option of Joe Rogan. So I think having access to media is better, but I’m not the artist and I get taking a moral stance.
the_q@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Money > all.
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
I quit 10yrs ago. I am almost 70. If this old fart can do it. So can you.
Pxtl@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
The way people turned up their nose at the Fediverse when the Muskening happened to Twitter was heartbreaking. I knew social media was an addiction but when you find out your dealer is an absolute monster how do you not go looking for a new supplier?
But they all discarded Mastodon et al as cringe and teduoust. Like, the way even trans women influencers stayed on Twitter blew my mind. When bluesky got off the ground there was finally some migration, but not enough.
It really showed me how many of the “anti-capitalist” and the “anarchism” and “mutual aid” people were all just talk. The mutual-aid volunteer-based platform exists and you stuck with the fascist because it was easy and you’re too cool for the nerd shit.
biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I gotta say, I was among the Twitter Marxist crowd around 3 years ago,and yeah most are just talk, yap and argue, although there were some genuinely making something good, such as a community library or benches for instance. I’d say none of them would switch to the fediverse in any actual capacity, because most just believe in the asthetics and being in the community of like-minded people, instead of actually following the values they allegedly preach, but really don’t even know.
blackfox@lemmings.world 5 weeks ago
The average person is an idiot.