Microsoft really doing everything in their power to make sure I never buy another Windows PC.
Microsoft's Windows lead says the next version of Windows will be "more ambient, pervasive, and multi-modal" as AI redefines the desktop interface
Submitted 5 weeks ago by mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.world
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veeesix@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
FauxLiving@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I setup a Windows 11 laptop for a friend yesterday, I cannot believe the amount of ads built into the new user experience which are disguised as installation options.
I had to find the tiny, low contrast skip button to avoid signing up for more cloud storage, a Copilot subscription, and an Office365 subscription before I was even able to see the desktop.
The entire left side of the start bar seens to be a news feed which shows ads, opening an Office app requires closing a Copilot ad unless you disable it (individually for every application), it’s impossible to create a local user account, it looks like the user folder defaults to their cloud storage so just saving things into your document folder will eventually result in scary “You’re almost out of space, buy more here!” ads disguised as system promots, and your bitlocker recovery key is saved in you Microsoft account.
That’s just what I noticed in the first 20 minutes.
I’m so glad I ejected from that dumpster fire of an OS.
mesamunefire@piefed.social 5 weeks ago
Its so much slower on my old win 10 machine at work. Meanwhile my Linux box got faster
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
And the normies know nothing different and nothing will change. As we get further to to ad hellscape and they find it normal, we will be the only ones screaming that they are insane for having so many ads.
Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Micro$oft doing this has been the best thing for Linux and MacOS
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 5 weeks ago
Honestly I think we missed the moment when Linux went the wrong path too.
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Microsoft does the best viral marketing for Linux.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
The next version of Debian won’t be more ambient and pervasive. It would be just the same as it is today.
pelya@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
No way! I’ve updated to Debian 13 two days ago, and I’ve got two (!) new lockscreen wallpapers, and you can even configure lockscreen to download picture of the day from Flickr or Bing. Also taskbar has rounded corners, which I’m ambivalent about.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
2! = 2
So the exclamation mark is redundant.
Luffy879@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
What the fuck? I thought Debian should be stabile? Are they too stupid to get that maybe, people have mounted the wallpaper folder onto another Partition, and now they have to repartition everything?
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
What are you talking about?
Debian is stable.
tankfox@midwest.social 5 weeks ago
I installed arch recently, and the steam client was pretty easy to install. What really shocked me is that all the stuff that works fine on my steam deck also works fine in arch, so that’s nice
domdanial@reddthat.com 5 weeks ago
Well makes sense, steamos is arch based right?
wioum@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
“10 will be the last OS”
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 5 weeks ago
The last one I pay for anyway. Not even sure I actually paid for that one…
etherphon@piefed.world 5 weeks ago
They're no Spinal Tap, for sure.
herrvogel@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That was said by some random Microsoft employee who had no official capacity to say something like that, and the whole thing sounded like they meant to say “latest” anyway. It is and was a worthless statement that got way more attention than it deserved.
pupbiru@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
ambient: we will do things without asking
pervasive: we want to be everywhere in your life
multi-modal: and by everywhere we mean FUCKING EVERYWHERE
kadup@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The thought of relying on Microsoft services for something sends shivers down my spine.
Then I remember there are adults in this world using Outlook to keep their agendas, paying for MSN news, people BOUGHT MEDIA AND SOFTWARE from the built in stores Microsoft created and abandoned. I can’t imagine it.
pupbiru@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
The thought of relying on Microsoft services for something sends shivers down my spine.
government (including most chillingly, international governments) and hospitals pretty much all use microsoft tools - outlook, sharepoint, etc - to run huge parts of their organisations
that’s the truly scary part
CarrmynCarnage@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
It all means: You’ll eat AI slop and you’ll be fucking please about it.
DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Perfect translation
ZiemekZ@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
multi-modal: and by everywhere we mean FUCKING EVERYWHERE
So, there’s non-zero chance that they’ll resurrect Windows Phone and Cortana?
prototact@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
It’s funny cause “ambient, pervasive, multi-modal” are all words used when envisioning the future applications of AI, so you know some marketing smuck glanced over the literature (or probably asked an AI to do so for him) and chose them with little care as to how the new Windows will embody these qualities. I am so tired of salesmen,marketing,word salads and entrepreneurship.
letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
voice as input? lol, can you imagine a busy office with workers all talking at the same time? this is stupid. MS is stupid. I’ll stick to Linux thanks.
No1@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Pffffft! As if any humans are employed in an office!
It’s AI agents all the way down!
Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Never been happier to be 100% on Linux.
Jeremyward@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Switch about 6 months ago, so happy to read these articles and shrug at them now. I gotta say it’s weird there’s only like 2.5% of us
GooseFinger@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Microsoft could literally make “gargle the balls of Bill Gates” a login requirement and the masses would still use Windows.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Most people just use whatever OS their computer comes with. We need to have more companies producing cheap computers with Linux pre-installed.
Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I can eject USB drives in Linux! You click the button to unmount it, and it unmounts. This is some crazy technology right here, maybe one day Microsoft will catch up
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Wtf kinda language are they speaking? None of those words should be used to describe an operating system.
hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
They are vibe coding on a higher level bro.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Vibe coding must be the easiest job in the world.
thejml@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
“We listened very carefully to everything our customers wanted, and then we cranked out this impossible to use fucking piece of shit” - The Onion (for Sony, but it applies here)
vegyk0z6@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
I don’t want to ‘sign in to confirm your age’ to watch this
thejml@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Luckily I’m in the US where we apparently only care about “the children” before they’re born.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
In the interview, Davuluri is asked how AI is going to change the way we interact with computers. Here’s what he had to say on the matter:
“I think we will see computing become more ambient, more pervasive, continue to span form factors, and certainly become more multi-modal in the arc of time … I think experience diversity is the next space where we will continue to see voice becoming more important. Fundamentally, the concept that your computer can actually look at your screen and is context aware is going to become an important modality for us going forward.”
Watch out Satya Nadella, this guy’s coming for your Chief Bullshitter job.
chellomere@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Fundamentally, the concept that your computer can actually look at your screen and is context aware is going to become an important modality for us going forward."
Ah, so now having my computer spy on me is a feature, gotcha
Dojan@pawb.social 5 weeks ago
What the fuck does ambient even mean in the context of an operating system? Is it going to be floating around in the atmosphere of my flat? Is the next version of windows gaseous? Is it sarin gas?
Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I want a good VR OS but this is just silly XD
Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
Dear Microsoft.
Your operating system only exists because I have a need to click and type into business things in a quiet office.
Please stop fucking this up.
puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
[deleted]Canconda@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Enterprise customers I guess.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
They don’t want it either. Generally they just want something stable and usable.
gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 5 weeks ago
no one wants to sit in their office talking to their computer verbally, its fucking awkward. Its cool on star trek as a means of exposition and plot, but not in real life.
Start fixing the actual architecture issue of Windows. An immutable base system and modular containerised app workflow might be a start, but we already have that in every other operating system
hansolo@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
All those offices with open floorplans are just going to be a auditory nightmare, like some call center every single day.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Just rename it to Copilot 12 or something, it’s way too confusing having a product not branded as copilot.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Copilot 365 12 for Home and Family, Copilot Edition.
yagurlreese@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
you guys are taking me out 😭💀
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Copilot One:Series AI 360 Experience
rbos@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
ActiveCoPilot XP 2025 Professional Edition
zebidiah@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
God I love Linux …
Feyd@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
I think a lot of people are going to struggle getting their head around the idea of voice being a reliable, primary input method when using a PC, but with agentic AI and the ability for the OS to understand user intent and natural language, it’s going to feel a lot more natural than you might think.
You’re damn right we’re going to struggle. I won’t believe it is reliable enough to be anything but infuriating until I see it.
suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Ugh, not this voice control BS again. It’s like the people who pop up every once in a while asking why there isn’t a “natural English” programming language. It’s because human language is imprecise and full of nuance. To describe something to the precision needed for a computer to take action and actually do the thing you want it to do, you have to be so ridiculously verbose in your description that it would take 10-100x longer than just clicking a button with your mouse or typing a command on the keyboard.
Have none of these people ever sat behind someone operating a computer and tried to instruct them to do something even moderately complex? About 5 minutes in I’m usually tearing my hear out screaming “JUST LET ME SIT IN THE CHAIR AND DO IT MYSELF!”
floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I tried dictating a talk onto the computer in several ways recently. Not one piece of software was able to do it without me having to edit constantly. I haven’t seen anyone get voice input to the point where it isn’t a pain. I highly doubt Microsoft figured out reliable voice input but kept it back for Windows 12. It’s going to be the same shit.
Quantenteilchen@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
I hate all MS Office products for their “smartness” already!
No Word, I chose those words and this spelling very precisely thank you very much. And no PowerPoint, I would like to align these things with actual precision even between your auto-snap guides and kilometer-per-arrow-press positions…
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
That’s an insane number of buzzwords in a very short statement.
Also, I don’t want any of what they’re describing. I want my OS to be what allows the programs I use to run, nothing more, nothing less. I don’t want it to try and guess what I’m doing, or look at my screen.
feinstruktur@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Unfortunately I can just upvote this once.
echodot@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
So they’re shutting down Windows 10 after telling everyone Windows 10 would be the last windows operating system, and at the same time as them doing that they’re telling everybody that Windows 11 won’t last very long either, and they’re going to replace it with an AI nightmare.
Great marketing strategy.
Valmond@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
More gluant, juxtaposing and hereditary.
I too can just string adjectives together.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Microsoft: the biggest promoter for using Linux. “Our goal is to make Windows and it’s apps so extremily repulsive even your grandma wants Linux instead. Because we care.”
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
So: an even more disempowering user experience.
Sounds like shit to me.
yesman@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
“I think we will see computing become more ambient, more pervasive, continue to span form factors, and certainly become more multi-modal in the arc of time … I think experience diversity is the next space where we will continue to see voice becoming more important. Fundamentally, the concept that your computer can actually look at your screen and is context aware is going to become an important modality for us going forward.”
You could fertilize 200 acres with that much bullshit. truly a crime against the English language.
FireWire400@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I think they meant to say “invasive”, instead on “pervasive”
Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
“hey guys, you have complained about our latest software, and we heard you. Our next release will literally rip out your genitals and you definitely can’t hide from it. 👍”
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 5 weeks ago
I don’t want to speak to my computer. I don’t need AI to perform basic tasks. I don’t need my computer usage redefined. Fuck off Pavan.
dparticiple@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
None of these are things I want in an OS.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Yup, I want “unobtrusive, lightweight, compatible, and secure.” Basically, the best case for an OS is that I don’t notice it.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Windows XP was the greatest OS of all time.
All we’re doing now is wandering away from perfection.
JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Good thing he didn’t actually say it would be the next Windows doing any of those things. He didn’t even say it would be the OS:
“I think we will see computing become more ambient, more pervasive, continue to span form factors, and certainly become more multi-modal in the arc of time … I think experience diversity is the next space where we will continue to see voice becoming more important. Fundamentally, the concept that your computer can actually look at your screen and is context aware is going to become an important modality for us going forward.”
The important and scarier part is actually the last sentence, not anything from the article title.
dparticiple@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Well put. I confess that my hot take was based on skimming the title of the article, and as you note, their vision is even more dystopian. Fire the pixels onto the screen and forget about them, I say!
etherphon@piefed.world 5 weeks ago
MORE pervasive? Everyone is already buried in their phones ffs.
hamFoilHat@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Depending on what the hell “ambient” means in this context that one might be okay. The other two though, eww.