I’ve always wanted my OS to be ambient. Whenever I boot SuSE, I’m thinking, “what this needs is to be more ambient”. I’m glad that someone is finally doing something about it.
Microsoft's Windows lead says the next version of Windows will be "more ambient, pervasive, and multi-modal" as AI redefines the desktop interface
Submitted 8 months ago by mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.world
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AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 7 months ago
MTK@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Can’t wait for Windows min requirements to be an RTX 5090
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Hey Microsoft, remember when you made the start menu bigger in win 8 and everyone hated it? Good luck changing everything about the UI. I’m sure it’ll be super popular this time.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
That’s an insane number of buzzwords in a very short statement.
Also, I don’t want any of what they’re describing. I want my OS to be what allows the programs I use to run, nothing more, nothing less. I don’t want it to try and guess what I’m doing, or look at my screen.
feinstruktur@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
Unfortunately I can just upvote this once.
Lazer365@feddit.nl 7 months ago
I hope one day my kids will come to me and ask me: “Windows? What is that?”
vithigar@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Compute will become pervasive, as in Windows experiences are going to use a combination of capabilities that are local and that are in the cloud.
…what does Davuluri think “pervasive” means?
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
What does he think “compute” means?
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You get to mine crypto for microsoft?
zqps@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Apparently “invasive but like, when it’s a good thing”.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Eww
DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Maybe this would be enough for people really start to consider Linux.
JTskulk@lemmy.world 7 months ago
The company that’s obsessed with putting popup tutorials in every fucking app and os function? Ambient my ass, stop lying.
CarrmynCarnage@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
Ambient as in it’s always in the background. Always lurking around the foreground. Every click, every keystroke lovingly crafts your experience from the first second. Sounds great right?
pupbiru@aussie.zone 7 months ago
ambient: we will do things without asking
pervasive: we want to be everywhere in your life
multi-modal: and by everywhere we mean FUCKING EVERYWHERE
ZiemekZ@lemmy.world 7 months ago
multi-modal: and by everywhere we mean FUCKING EVERYWHERE
So, there’s non-zero chance that they’ll resurrect Windows Phone and Cortana?
CarrmynCarnage@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
It all means: You’ll eat AI slop and you’ll be fucking please about it.
kadup@lemmy.world 7 months ago
The thought of relying on Microsoft services for something sends shivers down my spine.
Then I remember there are adults in this world using Outlook to keep their agendas, paying for MSN news, people BOUGHT MEDIA AND SOFTWARE from the built in stores Microsoft created and abandoned. I can’t imagine it.
pupbiru@aussie.zone 7 months ago
The thought of relying on Microsoft services for something sends shivers down my spine.
government (including most chillingly, international governments) and hospitals pretty much all use microsoft tools - outlook, sharepoint, etc - to run huge parts of their organisations
that’s the truly scary part
DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Perfect translation
Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
“hey guys, you have complained about our latest software, and we heard you. Our next release will literally rip out your genitals and you definitely can’t hide from it. 👍”
BussyGyatt@feddit.org 7 months ago
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Wtf kinda language are they speaking? None of those words should be used to describe an operating system.
hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
They are vibe coding on a higher level bro.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Vibe coding must be the easiest job in the world.
commander@lemmy.world 7 months ago
This guy’s got to know pervasive would come off bad. Ambient bad too
Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 months ago
And most of all, even more invasive.
Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
Never been happier to be 100% on Linux.
Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I can eject USB drives in Linux! You click the button to unmount it, and it unmounts. This is some crazy technology right here, maybe one day Microsoft will catch up
Jeremyward@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Switch about 6 months ago, so happy to read these articles and shrug at them now. I gotta say it’s weird there’s only like 2.5% of us
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Most people just use whatever OS their computer comes with. We need to have more companies producing cheap computers with Linux pre-installed.
GooseFinger@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Microsoft could literally make “gargle the balls of Bill Gates” a login requirement and the masses would still use Windows.
echodot@feddit.uk 7 months ago
So they’re shutting down Windows 10 after telling everyone Windows 10 would be the last windows operating system, and at the same time as them doing that they’re telling everybody that Windows 11 won’t last very long either, and they’re going to replace it with an AI nightmare.
Great marketing strategy.
ryper@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
I actually like this strategy, they’re taking hope away from people who think Windows alternates between good versions and bad versions by announcing they’re going to follow up a bad version with another bad version.
aesthelete@lemmy.world 7 months ago
For some reason, corporate just can’t stop itself from slaughtering its own money cow.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
pervasive
What? Why would anyone want this?
blargh513@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
That was my first thought, like what the fuck, I don’t want my OS creeping on all my shit.
It won’t matter, they will serve slop and most people will happily eat it.
A lack of even basic technology literacy hurts everyone so much. Most people have zero clue how their stuff works and zero interest to learn. Its easy to manipulate an ignorant population as we see again and again.
My favorite simple example is “do you shit with the door open? No? OK then privacy does have value–for all involved.”
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Question. Can’t you get around all this shit just getting win pro?
I still hate to give any $ to microshit, but if anyone wants to use popular software or play new games they need windows.
MyNamesTotallyRobert@lemmynsfw.com 7 months ago
I exclusively use Linux. In fact I don’t even own a computer that Windows would install on, at least not without hacks or workarounds.
I play a lot of games. In my experience only the trashiest of the trash games don’t work on Linux. Developers have to go out of their way and do extra work to make things not run on Linux these days. I will happily play an indie alternative of whatever trash enshittification sponsored game won’t run on Linux in the increasingly rare situation where I encounter one.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Im sorry but many popular games wont run well on linux.
-Any battlefield game -Valorant -Fortnite -Gtav online, likely gta6 will also not work.
These are huge among young gamers.
And good for you! I only use windows at work where I have to. And I just yell my friends i wont install shitty kernel anti cheat games. But they will play them without us anyway, so really we lose.
blargh513@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
It will be true if people are unwilling to put in a little effort to demand better or stop using windows.
You want your games to run on something else? Don’t buy them until they do. Sadly, most people are 100% unwilling to delay that instant gratification and sacrifice even the smallest convenience.
That’s how we got here. You cannot expect change if you are unwilling to do anything to make it happen.
This is why sloth is a deadly sin.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
100% , people are lazy as shit so there is no hope for linux until every single thing runs perfect without the user ever having tp touch a terminal or search a fix. Just how it is. I love to tinker, and thats why I love linux. But its not for the general population.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Even if true, that doesn’t mean you have to put up with it everywhere else.
I dual boot linux. And boot an extremely neutered Windows for most games.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
You and I do this, but 99% if the world runs on ms. They wont change. My friend says it sounds exhausting to do anything like that.
TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
I would recomend Linux mint, but the main thing, get used to the openscource alternatives for your programs you use now while you are still using windows. By the time you swap to linux, you’ll just have to get used to things like using “sudo apt install ****”, appimages and snaps. Just some things that are different about linux. Also I wouldn’t worry too much about trying to use a “gaming” distro. With some elbow grease pretty much any distro can look look and feel the same. All that matters is witch distro starts closest to what you want.
Pumasuedeblue@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
You don’t even need to use the command line in Mint. There are at least 3 decent gui package managers that I can think of if the top of my head.
whats_all_this_then@programming.dev 7 months ago
Most of these are great but I wanna point out some of the ones I don’t agree with
- I’ve found that the elbow grease bit is gonna be a dealbreaker for 90% of Windows users even when they hate windows. I hate it but that’s the truth
- Nvidia is much better than it used to be but it’s still a PITA unless you use a gaming distro or one that comes with proprietary drivers preinstalled and properly configured (even for someone already very comfortable with linux). This is important if you want Wayland to work correctly or need optimus on laptops. Furthermore, and this is laptop-specific, KDE Plasma is gonna have low FPS on secondary monitors or drain tf out of your battery by defaulting to dedicated graphics if your config is wrong (and it’s wrong by default on laptops)
- Switching desktop environments is a massive PITA so choosing the one you like first time is important.
zebidiah@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
That is a lot of words to say it will be shittier and have more ads…
zebidiah@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
God I love Linux …
fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Uh. You really gonna force me to switch to Linux, are you?
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 7 months ago
You haven’t switched yet? What the hell are you waiting for?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
Do it.
Squizzy@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Just do it, its simple. I moved to Linux Mint and it is essentially no different. Loads the same browsers for everything. Every major piece of software, in my case, has a linux version or at the very least and linux based alternative.
Grace_Schlick@lemmynsfw.com 7 months ago
Most importantly, Steam compatibility mode is goddamn amazing.
xep@discuss.online 7 months ago
Since I needn’t ambience nor multi-modal experiences in my OS, I’m afraid that even as a long-time windows user I’m going to have to switch to another OS that closer aligns to my needs.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 months ago
Dear Microsoft.
Your operating system only exists because I have a need to click and type into business things in a quiet office.
Please stop fucking this up.
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 7 months ago
Yeah, that sounds exactly like what everybody were looking for in an OS. /s
I’ve been very happy to be using Linux for the past decade and a half, but never more so than now.
Pamasich@kbin.earth 7 months ago
I love Windows 11 (the non-copilot+ version) and am positive on AI, but if they pull through with this vision, I WILL switch to Linux once Win11 support ends.
zebidiah@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Why wait? Just jump in now and start distro hopping until you find something you like…
Pamasich@kbin.earth 7 months ago
Like I said, I love Windows 11. I actually prefer its features in general to what I've seen of Linux, I prefer its design a lot, and there's some stuff, like WSA and autohotkey, which simply doesn't exist on Linux with the same simplicity as far as I know. Can't use classic shell on linux either, and the start menus I have seen either looked ugly or were more launchers than start menus.
themaninblack@lemmy.world 7 months ago
callouscomic@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
Just got done switching to Bazzite and couldn’t be more satisfied.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
So: an even more disempowering user experience.
Sounds like shit to me.
kalpol@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Opensuse still over here … Just being a computer.
Gave my mom a machine with Mint, havent heard a peep out of her.
gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 7 months ago
no one wants to sit in their office talking to their computer verbally, its fucking awkward. Its cool on star trek as a means of exposition and plot, but not in real life.
Start fixing the actual architecture issue of Windows. An immutable base system and modular containerised app workflow might be a start, but we already have that in every other operating system
hansolo@lemmy.today 7 months ago
All those offices with open floorplans are just going to be a auditory nightmare, like some call center every single day.
richardmtanguay@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
Good thing my next computer will be a Linux system. :-)