bill look what they did to your baby
Microsoft's Windows lead says the next version of Windows will be "more ambient, pervasive, and multi-modal" as AI redefines the desktop interface
Submitted 8 months ago by mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.world
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TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Microsoft: the biggest promoter for using Linux. “Our goal is to make Windows and it’s apps so extremily repulsive even your grandma wants Linux instead. Because we care.”
rantpalas@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Maybe someone should inform mr. lead over there that ambient and pervasive do not go together all that great. But then again, windows 11 ‘s components do not seem to play along too well, so they might not be sure what congruence actually is about.
wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Untrue! Let me give you some examples of things that are both ambient and pervasive!
Slime Molds! Entropy! Capitalist violence by the hoarding of wealth and refusal to engage with other humans with empathy Your Mom!
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Thanks, I hate it!
Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 months ago
The only word I understand in that sentence, in this context, is “pervasive.”
Bwaz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yup. Off to Linux I go.
Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
Weird, my desktop interface isn’t any of those things. Huh.
mysticmartz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m sureAI will hit Linux one day . A lot of the toolset for building LLM’s works out of the box. I’ve used Linux for years.
I suspect if AI gets to distros your have 3 sorts of people :
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Privacy aware and dislike the idea entirely
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Those that embrace it but only with open weight open source models.
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Those that use any AI models as long as it’s not too invasive .
I’m probably a solid 1.5
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 8 months ago
Hey, leave sureAI out of it! They made the best total conversion mods for Oblivion and Skyrim back in the day! :3
(Nehrim and Enderal, for anyone curious. Although Nehrim is quite janky (as is tradition for games/mods from Germany haha))
Toes@ani.social 8 months ago
Red hat 10 has an ai assistant for configuring it.
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prototact@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
It’s funny cause “ambient, pervasive, multi-modal” are all words used when envisioning the future applications of AI, so you know some marketing smuck glanced over the literature (or probably asked an AI to do so for him) and chose them with little care as to how the new Windows will embody these qualities. I am so tired of salesmen,marketing,word salads and entrepreneurship.
ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl 8 months ago
If I could just play new multiplayer games on it, for me the next version of windows would be Linux.
Bogasse@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
“Multi modal”
Will it finally be possible to be productive with more that 3 windows open?
masterspace@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
What’s your gripe with more than three windows?
Window management is usually not a complaint of Windows…
Bogasse@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
I see three ways of switching windows on windows :
- Clicking on the taskbar, but its quite slow because it relies entirely on mouse control
- Using alt+tab, this is super efficient when you have at most 4 windows open, then you often have to scroll through the whole list and concentrate to not miss your window
- Using the task view : this should be the modern way, the trackpads shortcut is super intuitive, it works well with many windows and is well integrated with virtual desktops. But it seems completely unfinished : it’s super laggy, very buggy (animations often freeze leaving some windows impossible to select) the taskbar blinks for no reason 🤷
But again, I think I’ve been spoiled by Linux. Many desktop environments integrates virtual screen so well that you can easily switch between apps in less than 200ms, which is a big deal : if you look at two apps it’s almost more convenient than moving your sight from one screen to another (for example copying some data, or monitoring some progress)
FauxLiving@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No, it means it can function as an OS, a spyware library and a targeted advertising vector.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 8 months ago
I don’t want to speak to my computer. I don’t need AI to perform basic tasks. I don’t need my computer usage redefined. Fuck off Pavan.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
The next version of Debian won’t be more ambient and pervasive. It would be just the same as it is today.
Luffy879@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
What the fuck? I thought Debian should be stabile? Are they too stupid to get that maybe, people have mounted the wallpaper folder onto another Partition, and now they have to repartition everything?
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
What are you talking about?
Debian is stable.
tankfox@midwest.social 8 months ago
I installed arch recently, and the steam client was pretty easy to install. What really shocked me is that all the stuff that works fine on my steam deck also works fine in arch, so that’s nice
domdanial@reddthat.com 8 months ago
Well makes sense, steamos is arch based right?
pelya@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No way! I’ve updated to Debian 13 two days ago, and I’ve got two (!) new lockscreen wallpapers, and you can even configure lockscreen to download picture of the day from Flickr or Bing. Also taskbar has rounded corners, which I’m ambivalent about.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 months ago
2! = 2
So the exclamation mark is redundant.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I bet the computer won’t function (or at least not properly) without an internet connection.
chellomere@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Fundamentally, the concept that your computer can actually look at your screen and is context aware is going to become an important modality for us going forward."
Ah, so now having my computer spy on me is a feature, gotcha
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 months ago
yay marketing words!
This means you can expect Windows to get, “verbose, invasive, and difficult-to-use”
npdean@lemmy.today 8 months ago
Why do corporations think so much about the OS? I always pick one that works well with my applications because I spend 99% of my computer time in the apps.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
In the interview, Davuluri is asked how AI is going to change the way we interact with computers. Here’s what he had to say on the matter:
“I think we will see computing become more ambient, more pervasive, continue to span form factors, and certainly become more multi-modal in the arc of time … I think experience diversity is the next space where we will continue to see voice becoming more important. Fundamentally, the concept that your computer can actually look at your screen and is context aware is going to become an important modality for us going forward.”
Watch out Satya Nadella, this guy’s coming for your Chief Bullshitter job.
BillyTheKid@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Thanks for convincing me to get a Mac! I love it so far!!
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Mac does things differently…you like a windows manager? like to make your apps fullscreen and switch desktops? use alt+tab a lot? don’t get Mac.
install Linux instead.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Just rename it to Copilot 12 or something, it’s way too confusing having a product not branded as copilot.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Copilot One:Series AI 360 Experience
rbos@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
ActiveCoPilot XP 2025 Professional Edition
floofloof@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Copilot 365 12 for Home and Family, Copilot Edition.
yagurlreese@lemmy.world 8 months ago
you guys are taking me out 😭💀
ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 8 months ago
take the penguin-pill and get out now!
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Microsoft does the best viral marketing for Linux.
FireWire400@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I think they meant to say “invasive”, instead on “pervasive”
yesman@lemmy.world 8 months ago
“I think we will see computing become more ambient, more pervasive, continue to span form factors, and certainly become more multi-modal in the arc of time … I think experience diversity is the next space where we will continue to see voice becoming more important. Fundamentally, the concept that your computer can actually look at your screen and is context aware is going to become an important modality for us going forward.”
You could fertilize 200 acres with that much bullshit. truly a crime against the English language.
Dojan@pawb.social 8 months ago
What the fuck does ambient even mean in the context of an operating system? Is it going to be floating around in the atmosphere of my flat? Is the next version of windows gaseous? Is it sarin gas?
Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I want a good VR OS but this is just silly XD
Feyd@programming.dev 8 months ago
I think a lot of people are going to struggle getting their head around the idea of voice being a reliable, primary input method when using a PC, but with agentic AI and the ability for the OS to understand user intent and natural language, it’s going to feel a lot more natural than you might think.
You’re damn right we’re going to struggle. I won’t believe it is reliable enough to be anything but infuriating until I see it.
Quantenteilchen@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
I hate all MS Office products for their “smartness” already!
No Word, I chose those words and this spelling very precisely thank you very much. And no PowerPoint, I would like to align these things with actual precision even between your auto-snap guides and kilometer-per-arrow-press positions…
suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Ugh, not this voice control BS again. It’s like the people who pop up every once in a while asking why there isn’t a “natural English” programming language. It’s because human language is imprecise and full of nuance. To describe something to the precision needed for a computer to take action and actually do the thing you want it to do, you have to be so ridiculously verbose in your description that it would take 10-100x longer than just clicking a button with your mouse or typing a command on the keyboard.
Have none of these people ever sat behind someone operating a computer and tried to instruct them to do something even moderately complex? About 5 minutes in I’m usually tearing my hear out screaming “JUST LET ME SIT IN THE CHAIR AND DO IT MYSELF!”
floofloof@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I tried dictating a talk onto the computer in several ways recently. Not one piece of software was able to do it without me having to edit constantly. I haven’t seen anyone get voice input to the point where it isn’t a pain. I highly doubt Microsoft figured out reliable voice input but kept it back for Windows 12. It’s going to be the same shit.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Am I missing something here? The quotes from said lead don‘t mention „the next Windows“ anywhere. He‘s just thinking out loud about what he thinks working on a computer will be like 5 years from now. This is click bait and I wouldn‘t be surprised if they quietly change the title later on after they farmed enough clicks. Awful.
thejml@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
“We listened very carefully to everything our customers wanted, and then we cranked out this impossible to use fucking piece of shit” - The Onion (for Sony, but it applies here)
vegyk0z6@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
I don’t want to ‘sign in to confirm your age’ to watch this
thejml@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Luckily I’m in the US where we apparently only care about “the children” before they’re born.
Valmond@lemmy.world 8 months ago
More gluant, juxtaposing and hereditary.
I too can just string adjectives together.
elephantium@lemmy.world 8 months ago
What is gluant? I couldn’t find it in the dictionary.
Valmond@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Sticky
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 8 months ago
More ephemeral, voluptuous and hydrogenous!
hansolo@lemmy.today 8 months ago
Oh, I love hydrangeas!
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
I’d rather it were more pulchritudinous, steatopygous and lubricious, but maybe that’s just me.