Submitted 8 months ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-microsoft-recall
Many years ago, when I was repairing computers for a living, spyware like this was highly frowned upon.
I haven’t touched Windows in a few years, but I’m still somewhat saddened to see how normalized this has become. Why did society stop valuing privacy?
Why would anybody want this?
Because! You can basically bend over and expose your anus to all, just in that rare event it might be slightly more convenient to remember what you did that other day.
Totally worth it!!!
🙄
Just switch to Linux.
This is like saying “put some salve on the wrists where the shackles are binding you”. For fucks sake just wake away from the abusive computing relationship.
Setting up a laptop for a nephew, gonna remember this tomorrow.
“Just install Ln-” Can y’all just shut the fuck up about Linux for five minutes?
No.
But it’s the solution to so many Microsoft “features”
If i ask “how do i change the oil filter on my *insert car model here*” and you answer “get an electric car” i’m gonna think you’re annoying and a bit of an asshole, especially if you keep doing it over and over on every similar question. It’s not a “solution” that interests anyone when they ask that kind of question. Fuck off.
let me think about this one… mmmm, no
Install Linux.
Please sit down for what I’m about to tell you. When a Linux user communicates with someone using Windows, the Linux user’s data is still being harvested. 💢
Uh huh, so what you’re saying is that the other user also must be assimilated, then.
Resistance is futile
I need Win11 for work. Specifically, Grasshopper. I’ve tried alternatives. They suck.
Last I checked Rhino was gold in winedb. Did something change?
But my employers data has zero value to me
github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil This just works. It will disable a lot of windows garbage including co pilot and recall. You can also remove all Microsoft installed bloatware programs but I don’t recommend it on 11.
I hope you got a work pc seperates from your private one?
It’s a shame that generic desktop apps don’t have the same level of support that games do. That would be an enormous boost to Linux adoption.
If you’re really committed, Wine or Quickemu are pretty damn good now. Grasshopper may almost fully work. Worth a shot.
I’m curious on what features does Windows have other other OSes. Just gaming? Music and video editing can be on MacOS. Linux can do everything else.
I recognize it may be a pretty niche issue, but i still haven’t found a Linux app that i can build Monte Carlo simulation models with, though I think some of the developers of these types of apps have made MacOS ports. The ones that I’ve historically used are Excel add-ons, but i haven’t found anything similar yet for Libre Office, or stand alone app.
I would think you would want to do that in python anyways, regardless of the OS. I suppose it might be relative to what you want to do, there are several monte carlo applications for linux but they are focused on certain fields. Whats yours?
It’s been confirmed before the US government puts backdoors Linux too. I seem to recall a sudo exploit they were found to have intentionally put in years ago.
Usability.
Windows and Mac are both easier to use for the standard user.
I’m a technical person and even I struggle with what/how the hell I’m supposed to even install applications on Linux:
Should I download the binaries? Should I use snap/flatpak/etc? If I do one vs the other which is more up to date? If I can’t find it in the software store can I trust random online sites?
And that’s just finding applications. Most people don’t have hours of free time to read forums to understand how to fix something that broke (assuming the distro they choose even has a thread relating to the issue).
Windows and Mac are both easier to use for the standard user.
I really doubt that a standard user would have that much problems to do his work with the normal programs (an office suite, a browsere a little else) once Linux with a DE (let be KDE, GNOME or whatever) is installed.
The limitation is not the disto itself, it is the lack of support for some software (like Grasshooper or CAD)
Wait, this seems completely backwards.
Windows: Here is some forum post to some rando’s software. SomeShit.exe. Should I install it?
As opposed to Linux: I look in the category of the software I am interested in, click install.
And as far as breaking… I use linux because it doesn’t break. I don’t have time for windows bullshit.
Windows is a marketing and spying platform. It is targeted by any and every scammer, hacker, used for harvesting your data by programs you install. It is sold as an “easy to use” computer - most ppl don’t even know what an OS is - until 6 months later when the CPU is at 100% and you don’t know why, the hard drive is filling up and you no longer know if your files are local or in “the cloud”. I service older computers for friends and family on a regular basis. Half of them now have Ubuntu installed on old laptops and it’s an eye opener for them. Because most people don’t install new apps. They just want to browse, read emails, open documents, watch movies and listen to music. If you avoid snap and flatpak and install with APT or just download an AppImage you’re going to be ok.
Usability.
Windows and Mac are both easier to use for the standard user.
Not at all true anymore for Windoze. Windows 7 was the last installment where that was true. Linux distributions are consistent. Once shown how the basics works, e.g., apt install or pacman -S and the general whereabouts of settings or software, it’s super easy to get them going, indefinitely. Even troubleshooting is within reach because searching the settings isn’t a maze within a maze (except for Gnome sometimes). Windoze keeps changing shit constantly, reinstalls uninstalled software, search algorithm is horrible and has Bing search results within the menu enabled by default [the fuck?], updates don’t indicate how long they’ll last, setting a default program often requires configuring it manually for every file extension, oh goddamn fuckers I have to stop typing because Microsoft pisses me off so bad.
Tabula rasa, if I had to teach a 70-year-old who’s never touched a computer before, to do so, I’d pick Linux every time. Consistency and customization is key.
I’m a technical person and even I struggle with what/how the hell I’m supposed to even install applications on Linux:
On my distro it’s 1) Open App Store 2) Search for Software 3) hit “install”.
Should I download the binaries? Should I use snap/flatpak/etc?
That’s a matter of personal preference, but once you understand the difference, which is really not that complex, then the choice should be practically automatic.
If I do one vs the other which is more up to date?
You can check the version number.
If I can’t find it in the software store can I trust random online sites?
You have the same issue in Windows.
Adoption.
Very little gaming still requires Windows since the development of Proton. The main compatibility problems that remain seem to involve kernel-invasive anti-cheat systems.
MacOS doesn’t really run on my hardware, but yeah editing software and CAD software are the reasons I’m on Windows still.
yup. Digital cinema / mastering here and most of our kit is still windows because linux doesn’t support the software. The previous suggestion of “JuSt uSe a MaC” can get in the bin for multiple reasons.
My first thought seeing this headline was “who cares I’m using Linux anyway” … My second thought was "Well I’m probably gonna start working in a mixed environment again soon and I’ll be the one who’ll have to disable Recall for the Users … So good to know
Watch as the Linux drones swarm in to drown out people seeking actual answers.
To be fair, removing the entire OS does disable this feature
And easier
Just lmao… i.imgur.com/mUwTITV.jpeg
man with gaping wound in his skull pissed that people keep suggesting he go to a hospital.
“Just like I told you, insufferable hospital maxxis, I swear!”
More like:
Man broken down on the side of the road pissed at people in cars yelling “should have bought a Toyota!” as they drive by.
Does it matter? No. Is it annoying? Yes.
The one thing keeping me from going all-in on Linux is the users being insufferable.
“I won’t use this thing, because fans of this thing are annoying.” The willingness of people to cut off their nose to spite their face never fails to amaze me.
You can just use linux. You don’t have to hang out with them.
I think the Doctor Who fanbase is the actual worst out of all fanbases but I still like watching the show. you don’t have to participate in the community if you want to use something. I use Linux but I’m not wearing thigh high socks and sitting in the Arch discord all day.
Yes, a lot of Linux users are insufferable, but there are also people willing to help in a nice and normal manner …
You’re seeing insufferable people who also happen to use Linux, as insufferable people also like to be early adopters so they can say they are different and therefore better.
There are plenty of super helpful people in the community, and Linux is well past the early adopter phase. The transition from Windows is smoother than it has ever been.
Came here for the “use Linux” comments. Like clockwork. To be fair: I’m guilty of it too.
i'm good.$ man recall
No manual entry for recall
For the folks saying install Linux keep in mind you can indirectly be captured by this feature.
For example if you’re playing an online video game you’ll be captured or your chat messages in your messaging app.
That’s pretty easily avoidable, too. Don’t play online games, or talk to people. That’s what I do.
And Linux will actively help you avoid doing those things.
Of course, the idea is that there’s less risk of that the more people switch.
You can’t convince 99% of windows users to switch, the real solution is done via legislation. The force of a government is more powerful any boycotts you can muster. (For example: European Union has been passing a regulations on right to repair, do privacy laws next)
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I don’t see that button my keyboard
Linux is great and all and I use it on several of my machines.
And if lay person just needs a computer to do basic things, internet, social media, stream, watch multimedia and the like it’s a great system. I have it on my multimedia PC we use only for entertainment consumption and my grammas laptop where she only watches streaming videos on.
But if someone needs it for anything else, graphic design gaming productivity development it’s much, much more difficult to use. I’m not saying it’s impossible but it’s much harder than just installing an exe on Windows and calling it a day.
And that’s unfortunately the catch with Linux is that it’s significantly less convenient to use than Windows.
For me personally when Windows 10 reaches its end of life I’m going to have to dule boot for regular computer usage to Linux and for gaming on windows 11. Something I really don’t want to do because all I want to do is just turn my computer onand be able to use it I don’t want to switch between operating systems but I realize that Windows 11 will be a privacy nightmare.
You do realize that most Steam games now work on the next natively correct? It’s true, not all do, but a lot of them do.
Let me guess… systemctl stop recall ?
Not for long, systemd is built by Microsoft employee.
Install Linux
“How to disable this opt in feature”: “don’t turn it on”
I get that Lemmy is a bastion for M$ hate but FUD articles get annoying.
Also it's only for AI Windows which requires an AI chip. Considering how anti-AI the fediverse is, I doubt any of the people here would be getting AI Windows in the first place. It's a non-issue for the user's here already from the get-go at the requirements.
Microsoft’s idea of consent:
Do you want to turn on Recall?
- Yes
- Maybe Later
I had a rough morning and your comment made it worst.
It won’t be just opt-in for very long.
Try this instead.
Now to find a registry edit for the same thing.
Disable task in task scheduler?
PowerShell:
Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName “Recall” -Remove
I don’t trust pushing buttons when I want shit rooted out.
But the terminal is scary…😭
Thanks. I was going to look that up when I got to work.
Watching Windows gets worse and worse is a lot more fun when you don’t have to use it. I use Mint btw.
It is sad to see the mental gymnastics people do to justify their inertia.
“It’s opt-in!”
“You can disable feature X easily by editing the registry”
“You can install this tool from a shifty site to restore that feature MS disabled”
Such a stupid feature
Step 1: Install Linux.
Arch btw.
Does the prnhub trick still work? Copilot detecting nudity on the desktop and stop capturing.
By stop using Windows ???
Setting aside for the moment that it is a much better idea to just stop using windows. One of Microsofts arguments for why you shouldn’t continue using Windows 10 is because it will stop being updated and will soon be insecure and get inundated with malware, adware, spyware ect. But Windows 11 already comes preinstalled with all of that so what difference does it make?
ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Step one: install Linux