It’s actually super useful for old people, who sometimes like to “accidentally log off” and stuff.
Password manager by Amazon
Submitted 8 months ago by kokesh@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 8 months ago
FoD@startrek.website 8 months ago
Or Microsoft who randomly needs to verify someone’s identity before they can log into.tgeir computer but the user doesn’t have a smart phone. So they need to call someone trusted to have them log into their email from a different computer just to get the code so the user can log into their computer.
But that also means they didn’t have access to any saved passwords so a notebook helps.
I really should put Linux on her machine but then I have to show her how to do that too. It’s a lose-lose so I keep it the same.
I miss local accounts.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You can still use local accounts with Windows 11. It’s just a bit fiddley. If you use Rufus to make your boot usb, there’s a bunch of deshitification options you can do.
ksh@aussie.zone 8 months ago
I save all my passwords in a README.txt file
Nasan@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
That’s how they get you, i put mine in a DONTREADME.txt file.
eluvatar@programming.dev 8 months ago
Still waiting for passkey support
tym@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This isn’t the flex you think it is, OP. 99% of cybercriminals are also cowards. Physical security of ANY kind beats even the best password managers.
If you don’t know what lattice-based encryption is and how to purchase it through NordVPN, start reading up because encryption as we know it isn’t long for this world. Pretty sure they already dragged their feet too long on Bitcoin’s algorithm but the day cracking common ciphers is within the grasp of quantum clusters is the day we all become Amish. Plan accordingly!
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Can’t wait to hand write my 32-bit passwords.
cralex@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
My handwriting comes with free encryption at rest. Even I might not be able to read it.
ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
You haven’t changed your password for 30 days. Reset it now.
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 8 months ago
My understanding is that quantum competing has been taken into account for some moment cryptography. And that memory-hard cryptography basically defeats quantum competing solutions. There are a few methods, but one of them is just very long keys, it’s trivial to make a cryptographic key longer.
So sure, you could defeat some of that with a machine operating with 1024k entangled qbits, (which is… oh man… not an easy task), in which case, wow, congratulations. But what if I increase my key length to 100k? It might take an extra 3 seconds to check the key and log in, but it’ll take an extra 25 years for quantum computing to catch up.
Toribor@corndog.social 8 months ago
Won’t longer key lengths increase the overhead for everything?
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
I had one of these I got it around 15ya but I never used it. I remember liking a particular aspect of it as if I had a specific use-case in which it would be handy but I can’t remember what that was.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
So far the combined might of the Russian, Chinese, American and North Korean hacking teams have been unable to crack the post-it note on my desk.
Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Add an extra layer of security by putting it in an envelope and stapling it to the bottom of your desk
Litebit@lemmy.world 8 months ago
now they know.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
If they’re in my apartment I’ve already got bigger problems.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 8 months ago
PSA: Home use? That’s probably okay. Work use? If you’re in-office, this is a ticking time-bomb that can get you fired, one way or another. Use the company 1password or whatever you have access to, please. Thank you.
Frostbeard@lemmy.world 8 months ago
In my office I have a list that says passwords all nonsens and just as a decoy. I have a system that I use for rotation woth a visual reminder (by association, not directly) somwhere in my office
ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 8 months ago
InfoSec likes nothing more than for you to tell them not to worry because you write all your passwords down and only read emails after you’ve printed them. 100% secure.
appropriateghost@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
we might laugh at this but I think this is useful. Even though I wouldn’t use something like this and I’d just use a regular dedicated blank notebook and my password manager, it can be useful to people who have problems with computers and can’t handle a password manager, yet may give pages with good templates to show how to record sensitive information.
win95@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Exactly this is the reason why I gifted it to someone. I’m already glad they don’t use 1 password for every website.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I have hundreds of logins, the convenience of a password manager is just too nice.
techdaddyproxy@pawb.social 8 months ago
Or for folks that would be otherwise leaving logins and passwords in a clear text file on their desktop (glares at coworker). It’s still clear text, but at least it’s air gapped. It’s not for me, but it’s certainly for someone.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Is it AI powered tho?
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
[deleted]No1@aussie.zone 8 months ago
My password logbook caught on fire, and half my passwords were burnt. I lost the other half when I threw a bucket of water on it to put the fire out. 😟
I can’t order food. I can’t buy things. I can’t get money.
0/5. Send help.
roserose56@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Keeepass, simple and easy to use! keepassxc.org
zyberteq@lemmy.world 8 months ago
For a lot of people at 60+, writing things down is easier and safer. It will also help anyone that would need to troubleshoot or in the event of death in a very simple way.
lennee@lemmy.world 8 months ago
i got bitwarden
Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
- for the tech inclined
Managing sync between mobile and desktop is a bit more complicated than average consumers have the patience for (it’s really not very complicated, average consumers are just impatient)
meliaesc@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’ve found 1password a good compromise. Unbreached so far!
aceshigh@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s exactly what I use. Chances of my house getting robbed is small. Chances of yet another data breach is very high - this year my data was breached at least 2ce that I remember.
oppy1984@lemdro.id 8 months ago
I should get this for my dad, he recently got a new computer at best buy and the geek squad told him his files were all in the cloud and sent him home. Guess who got a call the next day because “all my passwords are in a word document in some fucking cloud”. Yeah that was a fun day spent setting up his computer while listening to his rant about the geek squad and “the fucking cloud”… thanks geek squad…
HoopyFrood@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
As a software engineer who values humanity has done a good bit of work with “the cloud”, i think your dad has the right set of feelings towards the cloud. That fucking cloud can go get bent
oppy1984@lemdro.id 8 months ago
Oh I agree but it would be nice if he’d have listened to me years ago and started using a password manager at least. I know he’ll never go full self hosting, but come on at least use Bitwarden!
ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
xkcd.com/2176
_stranger_@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Self hosted and air gapped.
dangercake@feddit.uk 8 months ago
And very power efficient
Nikelui@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The indexing and search need improvement.
Newsteinleo@midwest.social 8 months ago
As long as the notebook is in a locked draw I would pass this on an IT Audit.
Patch@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Unfortunately it’s a combination lock, and the code is written on a post-it stuck on the front of the drawer.
paraphrand@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Quantum proof
finix_the_psyker@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Just as the Lord intended.
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 8 months ago
My mother using something similar to keep track of her passwords for everything. While I prefer a password manager like Bitwarden or Keepass. I would rather her use a note book like this over something like Google or Apples password managers.
Or even worse, the same password for everything.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 8 months ago
I see no issue with this, especially for an elderly person, for example, to keep at home. The only way this will get “breached”, is if someone breaks into her home. At that point, the password book is the least of her concerns anyway. In fact, from a cyber security point of view, this is brilliant if kept in a safe place, such as a locked safety box. You can’t really remotely hack a physical book.
ansiz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Sure, it’s a horrible idea in an open office environment but if someone wants to use this at home for all their passwords it really won’t hurt anything.
Ebber@lemmings.world 8 months ago
Especially when helping your parents living in the middle of nowhere.
Seeing then struggle with the changes happening in the last few decades, makes me worry what I’ll be like when i need some young whippersnapper so that I can pay via personal, irrational, conditional thinking.
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
makes me worry what I’ll be like when i need some young whippersnapper so that I can pay via personal, irrational, conditional thinking.
Sometimes I share this fear.
But then I think - I’m on Lemmy, so I think “I’m still hip to new jazz.”
But then I remember that Virtual Reality will be commonplace someday, and something somewhere will require it - and I know in my heart that I’ll complain loudly about it before, during, and after I use it.
LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Im guilty of this. I dont write out the passwords in plaintext though. Its mostly just a few letters to remind me of which version of my many “master” passwords i used and then asterisks. PW0****$ kinda thing. I know its bad but I can’t bring myself to trust a password manager.
MangoCats@feddit.it 8 months ago
If you keep the book secure, it’s probably safer than any computer based record system - right up until someone untrustworthy gets their eyes on the book.
With a physical book, you can store it in a safe deposit box when you don’t need access, make partial copies, copies take (everyone, bad guys and good) significantly longer to make even with a photocopy process… most importantly, people intuitively understand the vulnerabilities of a physical book.
Now, the physical book won’t stop keyloggers…
angelmountain@feddit.nl 8 months ago
Still better than using the same password everywhere and/or saving passwords in an unencrypted text file on your computer somewhere.
Just not very user friendly.
kadup@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m going back to paper for most things and I don’t know man, I think it’s more user friendly given the current tech landscape. My paper notebook never changed the interface to add a huge Copilot button.
Ulrich@feddit.org 8 months ago
“For most things”? Like written notes are whatever, if you don’t mind carrying it around with you everywhere you go and hoping it doesn’t rain. But definitely do not put your passwords in there…
Modern password managers are super inexpensive, easy to use, and essential security tools. You can’t store your passkeys or TOTP in your notebook either.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Neither did my laptop, desktop, or phone. I use Linux and GrapheneOS, so I don’t deal with most of the nonsense people have been complaining about.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It is very user friendly, just cumbersome and slow.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
this is my internet password logbook
AppearanceBoring9229@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Silly, you just posted a picture of your key now everyone can access your passwords
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 8 months ago
True, but honestly look at that lock, you can open that with a paperclip.
I still like it.
DeceasedPassenger@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That is tight as hell and I love it
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
you too can have it (not my listing): https://www.depop.com/products/christy19js-rare-1990-sanrio-spotty-dotty/
BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That Web Addresses placement is killing me.
quetzaldilla@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s infuriating! 😬
merde@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
they just centered the whole thing 🤦
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 8 months ago
My master password is physically present as a mnemonic device, but not available digitally. Anywhere.
Beyond that I really cannot recommend this book: You need to be able & willing to type your passwords out, which means simpler and shorter passwords. I use 99 character complete random ASCII-strings by default. Try typing that in even once.
But there’s a different, unspoken criticism here: don’t store your database on a 3rd party server, a.k.a. “The Cloud”. I use KeepassXC btw. - and my very own “cloud”.
bigbabybilly@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Oh yeah, this is for my in-laws. This is peak boomer tech right here.
TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Of the 200 elderly I see maybe 75% still use the book or a variation of it.
The best is when they use iPad notes or even their fucking contacts to save info lol
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
The best is when they use iPad notes or even their fucking contacts to save info lol
That’s awesome, worrying, adorable, and still more secure than using the same password everywhere.
hansolo@lemmy.today 8 months ago
Can confirm. I had to do a double take that I didn’t write this comment and just forget.
hsdkfr734r@feddit.nl 8 months ago
I’m not in their target audience.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Honestly, a physical password book isn’t a bad idea.
Not accessible via the internet, and in most cases if someone has physical access to your system you’re done for anyway.
The main weakness it has is from a nosey flatmate, spouse, or child in the house.
jastyty@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Ah yes, the keep ass
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Best option for non techies at home.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Honestly, for at home personal use, it’s better than any on device password manager. It’s not hackable. Someone has to break into your home and steal it. For an office environment though…worst way to handle it after sticky notes.