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[Video] BBC cuts away during pro-Palestine musicians Kneecap. The followup act Bob Vylan invents a new chant on live TV

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨IndustryStandard@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨maliciouscompliance@lemmy.world⁩

https://i.imgur.com/V0dIITi.mp4

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  • timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The IDF is a terrorist organization. Prove me wrong.

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    • floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You know, at one point during this war, I thought, “they’re compelled to service, most of them probably don’t wanna be there, and we can’t hold them responsible for the orders of the state.”

      Then I saw some interviews with some IDF soldiers. Then I saw more interviews. And it’s the same in recent interviews: they are happy to be there, and they absolutely love genocide Palestinians.

      Fuck the IDF

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      • paultimate14@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They aren’t going to let you see the unenthusiastic ones.

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      • jol@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I still think it’s basically brainwshing by government propaganda.

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      • Schmoo@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Even if it were the case that they didn’t want to be there, “just following orders” is not an acceptable excuse for committing a genocide. The morally correct thing to do if you’re compelled to service in the IDF is to refuse and face the consequences, because they cannot be worse than the moral injury of being tasked with the murder of innocent children.

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      • CriticalMiss@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If I was a news agency with an agenda I wouldn’t be broadcasting the interviews that are negative either. Those you will find on foreign TV channels, 10-20 years from now after those who are currently serving finish their mandatory service and immigrate elsewhere. Every once in a while some event happens which becomes difficult to cover up. Like the Pilot Letters from 2003 and 2023, but it is the exception rather then the norm.

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      • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Even for the ones compelled to be there who have little (not no) choice, it doesn’t mean the IDF isn’t a terrorist organization. Other terrorist groups use force to get soldiers, yet we don’t pull our punches calling them out.

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      • FenrirIII@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Brainwashed by religion and nationalism

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      • Doorbook@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There are older documentaries where older IDF recount war crimes and being proud of it… this been going since the creation of this project … the two main forces that created the IDF are UK Registered terrorist organization.

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      • kokesh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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  • miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Image

    Not all heroes wear capes.

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    • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Or shirts apparently

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      • Glytch@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Are you going to tell those abs they need a shirt?

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    • Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m not straight but dayum

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  • maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Death, death to the IDF!

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  • Tagger@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Damn tho, it catchy!

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    • user224@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You guys have sound? I can’t unmute it in Lemmy, and directly on Imgur the unmute is grayed out.

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      • pineapplelover@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        How have you not switched already?

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      • SparroHawc@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Very few things refuse to work on Firefox mobile. The one exception I’ve run across is trying to log into Google, which insists that I should use a ‘compatible’ browser. Like Chrome.

        If I switch what user agent Firefox is reporting so that it LOOKS like I’m using Chrome, it works perfectly, surprise, surprise. I hate Google.

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    • PaulBunyan@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Double catchy! Catchy rhythm/rhyme and catchy message.

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  • FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Maybe it’s because half their raps are in Gaeilge or the BBC just didn’t check, but booking Kneecap and not expecting to hear something about governments and Palestine would be like booking NWA and cutting their mics if they played Fuck the Police.

    Great job riling up the crowd for Vylan’s new chant there, genius move.

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    • lama@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Lol they basically did that before. They booked Rage Against The Machine to play “Killing in the Name of” live. It has the line “Fuck you I won’t do what you tell me” and they asked RATM to censor it while they played. The BBC was then somehow surprised when RATM didn’t do what they told them. source

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      • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        i’m going to imagine him staring the BBC producer(s) dead in the eye as he sings it

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    • bollybing@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The BBC isn’t booking anyone they’re just covering Glastonbury festival.

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    • DJDarren@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Thing is, afaik, the BBC has nothing to do with booking the artists. They just broadcast the sets and hold them on the iPlayer for a month after. Kneecap (and Bob Vylan) were booked by the Glastonbury organisers.

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  • Dagnet@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ll go check his songs now, just from that chant I can tell he has a way with music

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    • IndustryStandard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you missed the 2000s anti war punk bands this guy delivers with a 2025 vibe.

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    • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      He’s a Man

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    • Psythik@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What’s up with the stage name, though? Does he do Bob Dylan covers or is that just his name?

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      • nfamwap@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Bob Vylan are a two piece. Bobby Vylan and Bobbie Vylan are the members. Often referred to as the Bobs. They make music that references deep social injustice issues within the UK. Kind of a mix between punk and grime.

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    • FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The band they cut off also has great music and are all about giving the middle finger to the man

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  • BigDiction@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Brits are so fucking good at chants. Caught the quick rhythm and even the melody in just a bar.

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    • FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Irish too. The band they cut short just before this has songs that are quite catchy and the theme is ACAB

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  • rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The BBC are complicit in genocide by censoring the news in favour of Israel.

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  • Longpork3@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Anyone got a video of the rest of this set? Searching for it just brings up page after page of genocide apologists getting upset over the warmup.

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    • IndustryStandard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      BBC nuked the footage after they got the call.

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    • DJDarren@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Someone uploaded it to WeTransfer if you’ve not found it elsewhere yet.

      It’s a great set. Big Bob spitting facts from top to bottom.

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  • PixelPilgrim@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I can agree with that message

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Am I the only one who thinks this is a bit Nazi? Calling for the death of Israel seems problematic. It can easy expand target all Jewish people.

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    • brendansimms@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You have it backwards. The IDF are carrying out a genocide. So an analogy to the WWII-era would be like if Cab Calloway chanted ‘Death, Death to the Nazi SS’ , and then you’re comment (on our fictional 1940’s internet forum) would say “Cmon guys, this seems problematic because it can easily expand to target all German people”.

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    • verdigris@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The IDF is a military force actively engaged in ethnic cleansing and genocide. Israel itself is a colonist state that only exists thanks to constant violence threatened and perpetrated by its military and the US. It is not in any way antisemitic to criticize these entities up to and including advocating for their dissolution. Anyone who takes this valid criticism and turns it into “Jews Bad” is either incapable of understanding the complexity of the issues here, is a bad faith actual anti-Semite looking for an excuse, or has fallen for the ubiquitous state propaganda that has been conditioning this exact response.

      States and militaries are not culture. Nationalism is not identity. Fascism must be dismantled whatever form it takes.

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    • storm@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No, the actually antisemitic claim is that Israel and the IDF are representative of Judaism and/or Jewish people. They are fascist organizations and the conflation of these groups with Jewish people at large (a narrative pushed by Israel and their allies) is what endangers them

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    • TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      He didn’t call for the death of Israel.

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    • rozodru@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      so if I say “death to Nazi’s” by your logic, you’d have issues with that. Saying “Death to Nazi’s” could easily expand target to all Germans, All white people, or hell at this point All Americans.

      see how flawed your logic is?

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    • Scavenger_Solardaddy@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      🤡

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    • neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No, you’re not. This is generally classified as antisemitic. But for a multitude of reasons people don’t care or even see it as a good thing. Reasons including:

      • Decades of being told that there’s always a good side in war (there rarely is, I can only think of ukraine in this century and WW2 in - the last century),
      • being propagandized into warthirsty “patriots”,
      • being radicalized during covid,
      • getting radicalized by (a)social media

      you get the idea

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    • reddit_sux@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They are just calling for the death of the SS and SA not Germans Israeli or Jews in general. Sorry thought this was 1933.

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  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh, whoops. Here you go:

    lemmy.sdf.org/post/37661027

    Edit: original: hexbear.net/…/3bf38d29-c6d6-403d-9c72-14f7bd71276…

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    • IndustryStandard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Your comment might be intended for elsewhere.

      But if you want to upload videos for Lemmy, catbox.moe provides free anonymous upload. Simply link to the video afterwards in your post, and it will automatically embed on lemmy as long as the link is directly to the playable video.

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      • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I would be careful about anything with Hexbear on it, those fuckers are 75% bots and 25% “death to the west” extremists.

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      • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m saving this comment to review later, when I’m more alert. Thanks!

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  • pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Cornwall flag

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    • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I tried to search context on what that means but got fuck all except an excerpt on Saint Piran.

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  • Meltdown@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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    • Zetta@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I feel like wishing people who are purposefully murdering children would die is not hateful and actually a pretty moral stance

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      • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s definitely not a black and white issue for sure, every adult must serve in the IDF or face criminal prosecution in Israel, so saying “death to the IDF” and “death to every of age Israeli citizen” are basically the same statement.

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      • Meltdown@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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    • BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      God, you’re a melt.

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    • Scubus@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, fuck you.

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      • Meltdown@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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    • TimeNaan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No u

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    • b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes you are, you genocidal child killer.

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      • UltraBlack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        My man loves terrorism and religious oppression

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    • Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Idk I’d suggest looking at the state of Gazas hospitals and childrens services (all done specifically by the IDF) before coming to such a bad conclusion. Shitting on the IDF is the best thing people can be doing, there has unfortunately been some genuinely anti semitic stuff mixed in with the pro Palestinian movement but this ain’t it chief.

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  • demizerone@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Israel is a murder machine.

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  • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I get knocked down… I get up again

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