They’ve been doing this for close to 20 years. Ever since shortly after google bought them.
YouTube might slow down your videos if you block ads
Submitted 1 month ago by moe90@feddit.nl to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2814755/youtube-might-slow-down-your-videos-if-you-block-ads.html
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Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 month ago
masterofn001@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
You know the people who created youtube are all part of the same OG corp/group that gave eise to the monsters who have created the hell we currently live in.
The PayPal mafia.
Thiel, musk, howry, Chen(yt), wong(reddit),Hoffman(LinkedIn)
MemmingenFan923@feddit.org 1 month ago
If you are Content Creator please consider upload your content on other video platforms.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 1 month ago
The trouble with that is that there is barely any money outside of YouTube.
atlien51@lemm.ee 1 month ago
They can upload to multiple platforms at once and still keep their YouTube money + grow an audience on a different website??
yumpsuit@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I read somewhere that nebula was paying a good bit more per view, and paid per minute watched
sexy_peach@feddit.org 1 month ago
That’s because of missing views though mostly, no? The ad revenue isn’t big anyways I think.
moseschrute@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Idk how one gets content on Nebula, but I wish more creators would join. Ik nebula isn’t Fediverse like PeerTube, but I still really like it and think it’s worth the $30/year to not get ads.
yumpsuit@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Being a majority artist owned co-op is in the fedi spirit. I know Rebecca Watson is crushing it on Mastodon, are there any other nebula/fedi crossover creators you’d recommend?
MITM0@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Then support them monetarilly
atlien51@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Bro those Mf should’ve started doing that YEARS ago like…
M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 month ago
Oh no! You are going to make your platform work like ass? And you expect us to do mental gymnastics in such a way that instead of blaming you (you know the one that has control over the platform) we blame uBlock? The same uBlock that has made using your platform bearable for many years, to the point that I will sit in silence with the screen off instead of watch with ads?
I think even if you make us wait a min before playing the video most would take that over an ad.
FireIced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr 1 month ago
I would prefer an ad 🤷 if it doesn’t last a stupid amount of time
fodor@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
That’s what they’re banking on, but we know that eventually they will f*** it up and lose everyone.
adespoton@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
If they know I’m blocking their ads, why wouldn’t they just block the video altogether? That’s what they currently do.
If it’s already blocked, slowing it down to “blocked… but slower” seems rather pointless?
TauZero@mander.xyz 1 month ago
It’s a tarpit. If they simply displayed a blocked “no vids for u” message, you’d get outraged, go complain online, look for workarounds, and eventually find a bypass. If everything still works but poorly, you get annoyed, turn off your adblocker to troubleshoot, possibly blame the adblocker for being “buggy” and keep it off. Their help page solution implies they are hoping for just that. There is no “smoking gun” blocked message to go complain online about, even though it is indeed their servers that are degrading your connection on purpose in secret. Or maybe you give up and leave their ecosystem entirely, which is no big loss for them.
The proper solution is to develop an adblock that they cannot detect is blocking ads. This may require actually downloading the ad video in background, and then lying that the video has played.
adespoton@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
I’d be more likely to just assume delivery quality was going downhill and look for another streaming video hoster/provider. Why would someone link slow speeds to a plugin that filters out the stuff you don’t want?
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I actually wouldn’t mind that. An ad blocking method that just plays ads in the background with the sound muted and not visible on screen.
If google only lets me stream the content I want when I stream content I don’t want, that’s fine, I just don’t want to watch it as it’s my eye balls, not theirs so it’s my choice at the end of the day
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’ve been wondering about that, also perhaps a browser where your mouse position has seperate client and software side states? I know a lot of data can be gleaned from mouse movements so if the browser only updated its internal cursor position when you actually clicked that would potentially cut out that source of information?
Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 1 month ago
They are probably trying to find that spot where it’s just slightly more annoying to block ads than leave them unblocked.
adespoton@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Currently blocking ads consists of keeping uBlock Origin up to date. Not blocking ads generally means going to a different platform after a single ad roll.
I have no issues with pre-roll ads; it’s the interstitial ones that drive me away.
Death_Equity@lemmy.world 1 month ago
If they give you what you want, but harass you enough, you may just stop using an ad blocker to watch the video and might just forget to turn it back once you are done.
If you had to unlock your bathroom door to enter or exit, you will either put forth effort to correct the problem or you will take the lazy route and just prop the door open.
tabular@lemmy.world 1 month ago
If you went somewhere else their competition is winning (directly as another video site and indirectly as anything else you would do with your time).
queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
So you don’t find something else to do.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 month ago
i have been blocking them fro 10+years with none other than UBO.
grue@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s probably a bad idea, as it makes it more likely YouTube will detect the ad-blocking. Better to add your own custom rules to UBO instead.
Uruanna@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Don’t care, still better than the ads.
I’ll sit for 2 minutes in front of a black screen and it’ll still be better than 45 seconds of ads.
Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Did exactly that early days of hulu.
Ydna@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Same. That ole “You seem to be using a proxy service” text served as a nice break 🙌
SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
YouTube might just go fuck itself!
Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 1 month ago
And i stop using youtube when my adblock doesnt work. fuck em
phantomwise@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
It’s okay, if it takes too long to load I just use yt-dlp to download it and watch it later. You try to waste my time, I waste your server’s resources.
Krompus@lemmy.world 1 month ago
yt-dlp is fucking awesome and it will be a sad day if it ever gets taken down or blocked.
rhpp@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
And as an added bonus yt-dlp defaults to maximum quality! Even more strain on YouTube servers!
gwilikers@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
For about the last 3 years I’ve been hearing about YouTube cracking down on ad blockers. Not once has it affected my. Ublock still stops ads on the browser. Revanced stops em on the phone.
Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Their attacks are never a global rollout, you somehow dodged them all! Lucky.
RexWrexWrecks@lemmy.world 1 month ago
FWIW, I’ve been using ublock origin, too, and it’s mostly worked fine.
Until a few days ago, when Youtube started detecting it and showing down the site and telling me I can only watch 3 more videos before it cuts me off. That hasn’t happened yet, but I definitely feel the slowdown. I’m hoping a ublock upgrade will fix it soon.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I’ve been getting them over the last week or so on both Chrome at work (Ublock lite) and Firefox at home (UBlock Origin). It’s just a popup telling me adblockers aren’t allowed and then a second smaller popup saying something to the effect of “loading issues?” with a link as the video delays playing for a few seconds.
mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Stop feeding me dog shit AI videos about a condom delivery boy who has to deliver some to a hotel only to find his girlfriend cheating on him and maybe I’ll stop blocking ads you fuck sticks
Krompus@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Condom delivery service you say? 🤔
FireIced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr 1 month ago
Seems like a great ad
skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Please support peertube sites - here’s a list of instances to find something matching your interests: joinpeertube.org/instances
lmuel@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
Relevant as well:
They’ve added two more days to the current donation request support.joinpeertube.org/en/
Psythik@lemm.ee 1 month ago
“Might”? They’re already doing it.
YouTube in Firefox with Ublock Origin is getting throttled down to 1500kbps. I can’t watch anything above 720p anymore.
YouTube ReVanced on mobile and SmartTube Next on the TV still thankfully work without issues.
rengoku@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 1 month ago
This does not happen on my Firefox. 4k no problemo with 3rd world country internet.
Psythik@lemm.ee 1 month ago
They do it to groups of people at a time to prevent mass anger and hysteria. Don’t worry you’ll eventually get throttled too.
nevetsg@aussie.zone 1 month ago
I was watching 4k yesterday. 🤞 Ublock has it sorted by the time they find me.
mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 1 month ago
where do you get your YT Revanced from?
Psythik@lemm.ee 1 month ago
revanced.app is the only official source (along with the GitHub, of course.)
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 month ago
they also slow down videos if I use Firefox.
YouTube can eat my ass.
ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Really? Guess it hasn’t hit me yet. I use Firefox and haven’t noticed any slowdowns.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I use an old outdated version of FF because the new v3 google bullshit isn’t supported for my is version.
it was working fine one day and then a week after the official “cut off” it just slowed down and dropped quality.
it’s ok though. I don’t mind switching the quality and waiting for videos to buffer.
xeekei@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Youtube works a lot better for me after switching from Firefox to Librewolf.
Nugscree@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Not only that but the bit-rate as of late seems horrendous, 1080 looks more like 720 or lower with artifacts all over the place.
synapse1278@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yes, some video have a 1080p Premium high nitrate quality option that you need to pay for. It’s just the standard quality, but the free 1080p is now shitty.
It’s very sad there isn’t anything that can even remotely compare to YouTube at this time. All the content is there, can’t get it elsewhere. At least with Firefox, ublock and SponsorBlock, it’s bearable.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 month ago
Oh, did you not pay for YouTube Extra Premium Plus for the enhanced bit rate?
Bloody peasant…
Grostleton@lemm.ee 1 month ago
And really you’re just paying extra for the original 1080 bitrate. What a fucking scam, like I’d pay for that crap.
throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I mean, when I want to watch TV or Movies, I load it into my torrent program 🏴☠️ and let it download in the background. I could do the same with youtube videos.
Jaybird@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I was paying for a whole family (premium). But I will not pay and send money to a fascist state. We’ve cancelled all our us based services.
Guidy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
YouTube can die in a fire and take its fucking premium with it.
DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
Can’t slow down videos I’ve downloaded to my Plex server. 👍🏽
p_kanarinac@retrolemmy.com 1 month ago
That’s a lot of effort for a website that mostly offers background noise.
ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 month ago
“Might”… it’s introducing an artificial delay when loading videos.
oyo@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
They will never be happy with how much money they squeeze out of it. When people are watching videos that are 99% ads and the content is limited to two alternating pixels they will still find a way to further optimize their profit-taking. Nothing is ever good enough for the hyper-capitalist; product managers are a disease.
Ulrich@feddit.org 1 month ago
Jokes on them, I already watch videos at 0.5x
themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
That explains the “are you experiencing problems” message I keep getting these days.
MITM0@lemmy.world 1 month ago
We need to find ways to pressurize the content creators to upload to alternative platforms like Odysee, Rumble, Nebula, Peertube, Misskey
kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Youtube acting like it has anything to offer aside slop and people who think they’re philosopher kings because they play video games.
Robbity@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Nebula’s getting better and I spend more time there now than on YouTube. Happy that YouTube is working hard to encourage this transition.
Toneswirly@lemmy.world 1 month ago
meh, its still not inconvenient enough to pay 10+ dollars a month. The state of adverts online is so egregious that I would probably sooner stop watching Youtube than pay or put up with ads.
umbraroze@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
And this is different from the usual YouTube jank how, exactly? I can’t block ads on the YouTube TV app and it’s a buggy mess and I have no idea why one of the major tech companies in the world allowed that to happen.
aceshigh@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s great! I spend too much time on yt, it’ll break me of my addiction and I’ll do something else besides passive consumption.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Google will never get a cent out of me, willingly.
If it gets annoying enough, and FreeTube stops working, I’ll find something better to do with my time.
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
I have already started finding peertube replacement channels.
psoul@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Please share!
I’m happy I am finding some people on Nebula but being a payed service, it’s doomed to eventually show ads.
I now watch Climate Town and City Nerds on Nebula. I wish Dr Becky would move. I love her videos.
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
Maybe people will start torrenting youtube rips if they somehow manage to kill ad blockers.
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
I have already started finding peertube replacement channels.
SilverShark@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Any recommendations?
Pirate@feddit.org 1 month ago
Yep, lol. Same mindset here. Although I doubt YouTube will ever do a hard cut on piracy. That would lead to a major decline in viewership and wouldn’t look good to shareholders.