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It feels a bit weird to see lemm.ee users posting as if their accounts aren’t going to be dead in less than a month.

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Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’m an absolute noob when it comes to tech and I don’t even know what instance I am on and how this matters to be honest.

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- PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  I don’t even know what instance I am on.
  
  You are on Lemm.ee. Unfortunately, this is the instance this post is about.
  
  and how this matters to be honest.
  
  In about 17 days, you will no longer be able to login with your lemm.ee account. You should sign up for an account on any other instance. Examples include lemmy.sdf.org (the one I’m on) or any of the sites listed here: join-lemmy.org/instances
  
  Lemmy (and PieFed and mBin, but I’m just going to talk about Lemmy for now) attempts to provide an experience inspired by Reddit, but not controlled exclusively by one party. Loosely speaking, where Reddit is only one website and the whole social network belongs solely to Reddit, the social network spanned by Lemmy is actually a bunch of smaller websites that talk to each other. If the Reddit website goes down, the whole social network is down. If a Lemmy instance goes down, only that little part of network goes down.
  
  Unfortunately, the admins of your instance have politely posted that your instance is going down on June 30th. This applies to you and anyone whose username ends in @lemm.ee, but it does not apply to (for example) me because I am not a user on your instance. (I am on lemmy.sdf.org, which you can infer from my username @PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org, which ends with @lemmy.sdf.org.)
  
  Which instance you pick depends on what you want to see, what kind of administration you want, your political beliefs and how important they are, and who you want to be allowed to talk to. For my use case, I use SDF Lemmy because we don’t defederate (roughly, cut off communication) from anyone, even people who unambiguously deserve to be cut off, the people here are pretty chill, and because SDF.org has a history of public service literally much older than I am, so SDF Lemmy will probably be around for a while. Occasionally SDF Lemmy is out for like 24 hours and the SDF.org admins are a bit slow to respond, but that’s fine for me. But also, SDF is a pretty big instance now. In order to not concentrate too much power in the hands of SDF (or anyone else), you should probably choose a less crowded instance.
  
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  - volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I know that I need to migrate, nevertheless thank you for making sure I know. What I meant with
    
    How this matters
    
    Is that honestly I don’t see how I am connected to the instance to begin with. I’m trying to find a comparison that expresses what I feel but I fail to find a good one. Like a browser choice? No, there are differences in using firefox vs chrome. Like an email provider? Nah, also a huge difference. Like a remote control? I have come across weirdly designed remote controls though.
    
    But the instance - I have no connection to it whatsoever. It is just a random thing that provides me access to (all instances of) lemmy. I’m not sure I could care less about it.
    
    Maybe the closest I can come up with is the difference between a gmail.account ending in .com or in .de .
    
    But again, maybe I am missing something important here. I’m really tech illiterate and it is not the area I have an innate grasp at. (I used to drop that I have no idea what a router is, how tf the internet works (there are cables at the bottom of the ocean?!) or how code is even doing stuff. The problem is that I always end up with an inbox of people thinking they will be the one to make me understand.)
    
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RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Wait can I post?

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- PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Not anymore you can’t
  
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OrteilGenou@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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Aneb@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I logged in today and realized my lemm.ee profile was gone RIP lemm.ee

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tartarin@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I have already moved to another instance and I was pretty new on Lemmy as a whole. I think I created my account about a month ago.

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flango@lemmy.eco.br ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Life's a piece of shit 
When you look at it 
Life's a laugh and death's a joke, it's true 
You'll see it's all a show 
Keep 'em laughin' as you go 
Just remember that the last laugh is on you 
And

Always look on the bright side of life
Always look on the right side of life

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GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
::Cheery whistling intensifies::

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sandflavoured@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It’s been real.

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BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
am i going to lose all my posts and comments

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- Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Comments and posts will still exist on other instances that lemm.ee federates to, but obviously your lemm.ee account will no longer be active
  
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  - BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    okay good thing my songs of the day will remain. guess im moving to lemmy.world, whenever i find the time to power on my laptop
    
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dil@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Intersteller for ios supports piefed kinda now, still buggy for notifications but piefeds a good move too

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invertedspear@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
So long.

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- mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  And thanks for all the fish.
  
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  - OrteilGenou@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    F.ee.sh
    
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Player2@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
🥲

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- InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  F
  
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brrt@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
What happens if I don’t change ?

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- PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You won’t be able to log in, post, comment, etc., with this account. Basically, the website lemm.ee is going to be gone forever. Lemm.ee is how you do stuff in the Fediverse. The rest of the Fediverse will still be up, and the instances you interacted with will have copies of your posts and comments, but your account will otherwise be dead.
  
  So you probably do want to change instances.
  
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  - MeThisGuy@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    we welcome everyone.
    we’re kind of that open-minded server (and country). where the internet reigns free, since the dawn of existence.
    
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- IndustryStandard@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I think you will simply not be able to log in.
  
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  - brrt@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Lemmy needs an announcement system, bad.

Where admins can show up in user notifications. And where users can subscribe to get notices (like for software updates fron devs).

I’ve mentioned this many times in relation to Lemmy developers posting announcements for upgrades to a community just assuming it will stay in the Top posts long enough for every admin to see.

If users finding out their instance is closing via a SP isn’t enough to prove the need, I don’t know what is.

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pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Sticking around to the last day. Love you mods. Still haven’t picked an instance. Not sure if there’s another instance run like lemm.ee

Thinking dbzero or lemmy.zip for now

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- LePoisson@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Idk I’m on lemmy.world and it seems fine? I think it’s just the default for most people since it was one of the earliest if not the first instance, would have to look it up.
  
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  - captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The .world TDL makes it sound universal and it didn’t get a reputation as THE place for Mao cultists or whatever like .ml did. So lemmy.world isn’t the center of the lemmyverse but it is in the middle.
    
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- Zentron@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Im a .ee refugee on shitjustworks , its just not the same… and i joinee few months ago
  
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  - Aksamit@slrpnk.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The user interface with SLRPNK is good, if you’re still looking. I joined it just before kbin died and it’s done a pretty good job filling the hole reddit left, better than kbin anyway.
    
    I tried to get the hang of blahaj.zone while SLRPNK was down recently and just couldn’t with how follow people/profile centric it is, or how awkward it was finding posts I’m interested in. I liked the cat widget though, reminded me of that ancient Felix browser add on.
    
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  - pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It will never be the same again :(
    
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Elaine@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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- spicehoarder@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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  - Val@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
My first instance shut down permanently within days of my signing up. I believe it had sometime remotely doing with Russia suddenly deciding to invade Ukraine.

It really gave me that full cyberpunk experience.

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- amda@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  My first instance also shut down pretty quickly after I started using it, but not for major conflict reasons. I’ll get the cyberpunk experience some other time I guess… 😔
  
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originaltnavn@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Now don’t get me wrong, I am not hype about moving from a great instance, but I feel this has been a great demonstration of why the federation is a good idea. All in all, migrating has been a fairly smooth experience, and most communities are either on other places or are moving fairly structured. Previously, closure of services or enshitification has caused me to spend weeks to months hunting for new places to read. This has been a great experience in most ways, and I think I can live happily jumping from instance to instance like this for a few years until I give up and set up my own.

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- MeThisGuy@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  lemm.ee be real. your instance is fucked.
  
  onto the next one.
  
  but that’s the beauty of the fediverse… you can’t stop us all.
  
  one for all, all for one
  
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- IndustryStandard@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Can you transfer your account to a different instance yet?
  
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  - originaltnavn@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Partially, at least not what I use regularly. The account settings has a system for exporting settings, communities and block lists. You cant really retroactively move comments and posts to have been made by another user, but making a post on both the old and new users claiming eachother should propagate to other instances and be archived correctly.
    
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- JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Also, old content won’t be gone. It’ll still be around. Hell, people can still even reply to stuff. Inactive lemm.ee communities won’t have new comments propagate to instances past where the original commenter is from, but still!
  
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realitista@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Ffffffffff

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TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
o7

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Vespair@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I genuinely cannot express the depths of my sorrow.

I understand the decision and hold no ill will towards the admin team, I just think lemm.ee was exactly everything I wanted from an instance and am truly sad to not only lose the account history being associated with me, but also the most neutral of the instances.

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- Vespair@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  For those looking where to head, here’s where I picked.
  
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- hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It was my first Lemmy love.
  
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  - Vespair@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You never forget your first
    
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Monstrosity@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
F

Oh wait

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- Elaine@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  F yeah
  
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Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Consider switching to PieFed, it has many nice features Lemmy doesn't

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jaschen306@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I just moved/transferred over from sh.itjust.works from lemm.ee. I’m super sad to see it go. :(

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- samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Same, although I never get attached to the instance I’m on. I was on .world before that. I’m just a hermit crab on Lemmy, I guess.
  
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  - Arello@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’ve seen you everywhere, or maybe it’s just my Metroid fanboy eyes picking up…
    
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  - Sabata11792@ani.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I still miss kbin…
    
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yes@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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double_quack@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Any thoughts on reddthat.com?

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ramble81@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Does anyone know how I could save off any of my comments or posts? I know that they’ll still be accessible from other instance they federated to, but it’d be hard to search them all out.

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- halvar@lemy.lol ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  What I did is I linked my new account in the bio of the old one and vice versa. Not much more you can do.
  
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  - hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    All us babies here smoking cigars and betting on horses like some Fediverse Baby Herman army.
    
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  - ramble81@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’m just thinking that won’t work past the 30th as it’ll try to take you to a non-existent server
    
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killeronthecorner@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll.

While I respect their decision I feel like these people will just move on to other instances to do the same thing.

I don’t know all the details but it smells a bit “tolerant of the intolerant” and that these people should have been shown the door before it got to the point of shutting down (other reasons aside - they’re all valid)

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- ramble81@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The bad actors probably will move. But the problem is 99% of instance admins are volunteers and do it because they want to. It’s much harder to deal with that shit when it’s a labor of love and you’re not getting paid.
  
  Most were “shown the door” as you mentioned but like spam, it’s a tsunami that’s hard to deal with on a large scale.
  
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  - killeronthecorner@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Absolutely, but these problems are common to all the instances. Maybe I interpreted it wrong, it sounded like they were directly engaging the bad actors over management of the platform, and doing that rather than just quietly banning them and moving on.
    
    And to be clear I’m all for open collaboration and taking feedback, but I’ve seen this occur for Lemmy apps where loud and overbearing voices try and dominate the conversation to the benefit of noone, until Devs either stop responding or shut things down.
    
    Regardless, it’s sad to lose an instance and I hope the admins find something rewarding to invest in without having to deal with the internet’s worst members.
    
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cyborganism@piefed.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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scytale@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
For .ee users still deciding on an instance to jump to, I chose .zip because it’s managed similarly:

Similar defederation policy

Runs the latest version of lemmy

Defederated from Threads

Others moved to piefed.social.
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- Claymore@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Be seeing you soon,
  
  Thanks to the lemm.ee admins O7
  
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- spicehoarder@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  So what’s the difference between that and .world? Maybe I’m not looking hard enough, but I don’t see any “about us” pages for these Lemmy servers
  
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  - scytale@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Scroll down to the bottom of both instances’ home pages using the default lemmy UI. You’ll see the version of lemmy they use. You’ll also see a link labeled as Legal, which contains most of the instance’s policies. The Instances link will show you what instances they are federated and defederated with. The modlog can also give you some insight on what’s happening on the instance. Combine that with all the other information on their sidebars and you’ll get a rough idea of how different they are managed.
    
    It also helps if you’ve been on lemmy for a while because you would’ve directly experienced or witnessed any issues or controversies those instances have been involved with.
    
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- Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Join us! Join the .zip!
  
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  - rarbg@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    lemm.ee in to lemmy.zip 😤
    
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  - bananabread@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Hi!
    
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- turdburglar@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  yah me too
  
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