Like I bet if alcohol was something you had to snort, or just like a pill you take, I think a lot of people might not dig it as much.
You can drink alcohol? I thought you had to boof it.
Would alcohol be as popular if it weren't a beverage?
Submitted 2 weeks ago by Apeman42@lemmy.world to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
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nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
kholby@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Shouldn’t you be slowly eroding the government instead of browsing Lemmy, Brett?
ReanuKeeves@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
I think you’re probably right, especially now that snorting snuff and smoking are significantly less common. Although if you put it in vape form…
markstos@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Snorting tea, coffee and broccoli would be less popular too.
medem@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
I have a friend who was addicted to both cocaine and alcohol. While he, of course, is convinced that cocaine is one of the worst substances to have ever existed, he is even wearier of alcohol because of: (I’m obviously both paraphrasing AND excluding most countries with a Muslim majority here)
a) Social acceptance. No one is ever going to judge you for quietly sitting in the corner of a bar drinking your beer. Try snorting a line on the same setting and see what happens.
b) Availability. Even in sparsely populated areas, you are never too far away (say, a 10 minute walk) from a bottle of wine/spirit/beer.
c) Practicality (which is what answers your question). You don’t need a syringe, spoon, knife, bill, bong or lighter, not even another recipient, to start binging on booze. Once you buy/steal the stuff, you’re all set - and drinking something definitely IS more ‘natural’ (as in, it’s a reflex) than injecting or smoking something.
SEND_BUTTPLUG_PICS@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I wonder why eating drugs never became as popular as drinking alcohol. Obviously you can put THC in food but imagine if instead of going to the bar for a beer you went to the restaurant to eat some THC infused food or food infused with some other drug that can be taken orally. Eating food has the same level of social acceptability as drinking a liquid and is similarly as natural evolutionarily but it isn’t a thing people really do.
Maybe it’s because the effects of alcohol have a quick onset which edible THC lacks? What about infusing food with some other oral drug with a quicker onset? I can’t come up with any off the top of my head though.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I remember seeing an old Vice story about making dehydrated vodka and putting it on food.
Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Imagine if instead of going to the bar for a beer you went to the restaurant to eat some THC infused food
Brother I’ve been imagining this since legalization here. More than a few restaurateurs were as well, only to be dissappointed by the current legislation.
My kingdom for a legal, indoor cannabis consumption space that doesn’t have to get around things by being a funded experiment or ‘grey area, members only “private club”’. And tinctures, infused drinks and edibles are the clear best choices of RoA in those spaces given anti-smoking laws.
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Most substances that have any kind of enjoyable aspect tend to be very bitter and have an alkaline taste. Think of like coffee, we cut it with stuff or sweeten it with sugar. Pure alcohol would taste terrible, thats why we have beer, wine, and spirits. Its all alcohol but no where near entirely alcohol.
Also, not all substances are able to be used by your body in same way or with nearly the same level of efficacy. Some things have high bioavailability when snorted, like cocaine, but many things have no bioavailability when snorted (even if they do when consumed orally). Likewise you cant smoke everything, as not everything can be absorbed into your lungs (or done so without [more immediate] lethal consequences)
Psythik@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
The term you were looking for was “more wary”.
“Weary” means you are tired.
“Wary” means something seems suspicious.medem@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
Thx, corrected
Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I love a beer, but I definitely think if alcohol were invented today, it would never be legal. Same with gambling. Why are some addictions legal and socially accepted, but some aren’t? Really don’t get it…
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Alcohol: now in XXL suppository
Airowird@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Already exists: soak a tampon in vodka, then use it as suppo.
Easy high, cheap, and taste doesn’t matter.
nesc@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
Great way to die from intoxication as well!
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I was thinking more BD David XL size (think 3x 12oz/350ml cans)
D_C@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Quick, where can I get one of these? And does it vibrate??
Zenith@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
I think of it was a pill it would be waaaayy more popular. A lot of people avoid alcohol because it’s disgusting, including me, but if I could skip having to drink disgusting liquid to get drunk I’d consume a lot more of it. Snorting probably would be more popular too as long as it didn’t smell bad or burn to do. I like alcohol and hate drinking so I don’t drink but if drinking is taken out of the picture…. I’d be down
lautre@jlai.lu 2 weeks ago
It’s the opposite for me. I don’t want the effect of alcohol, I just want a nice drink to complement my meal and is hard to find something that in neither sugary or alcoholic.
Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Have you tried boofing?
embed_me@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
No and it sounds disgusting so I’m not even looking that up
Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
To flip your question, I’m a massive fan of craft beer/real ales/etc …if it wasn’t for the alcohol ingredient, would I walk in to ten different pubs and try all the IPAs/stouts/pilsners I do cause “I haven’t had this one before”? Probably not…
Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Before water could be reliably sterilised beer was the only thing people could drink safely. So it would have been the only thing a lot of people drank for their whole lives after they stopped breastfeeding which I think will have contributed quite strongly to it’s popularity.
smoker@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Cigarettes, pipes, hookah and lots of other forms of smoking were and are popular as a social lubricant, if that’s what you’re getting at
Akasazh@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Snorting and chewing too
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How would the average German man socialize if alcohol did not exist? I’m not even kidding, I’ve never seen it be absent at any non-Western table. We should be able to slowly but surely become capable of being normal human beings without needing to be at least tipsy, but at this point in Western civilization it’s a “necessary” crutch so I assume it would be used regardless of the method.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Considering how many drugs are taken in those other ways and how popular they are, I don’t think the method of delivery is the issue.
rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I’m pretty sure you don’t understand the science involved. “Alcohol” must be a beverage. There’s no other way to take that particular drug.
Apeman42@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Bro, this is clearly a fantasy scenario where we have a non-liquid substance with the same effects as alcohol. No one’s asking you to make tequila fun dip for real.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Look straight up, WAY up. That’s the whole point of the conversation going over your head.
The question is NOT “Can we make more forms of alcohol?”
It IS “Is alcohol’s high social acceptance strongly influenced by it being a beverage?”
Yermaw@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Yeah he said “-if- it wasn’t a beverage” its just a hypothetical
ReanuKeeves@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Look up alcohol powder
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Or inhale it…
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Oh yeah.
But this whole thing seems like, “what if my grandma was a bike” so fuck it.
Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
That’s what I’ve theorized for a long time. One of the reasons alcohol is more popular than other drugs is how easy it is to take, that and the fact that it is legal.
bcgm3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Like I bet if alcohol was something you had to snort…
This reminded me of this ancient internet video where a few guys (allegedly) “inhale” alcohol by adding dry ice and breathing in the vapors. Doesn’t look to be very effective, but if it was, I’d at least try it.
Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
I got drunk eating rum Popsicles and joked “how can I be drunk if I didn’t drink it”
burgersc12@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
I used to use a twisted up plastic water bottle to inhale alcohol vapors. It was alright, but drinking it is better
AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Alcohol < Drugs
squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You mean like other drugs that you have to burn and then inhale the fumes, which stink and make you cough, especially when you start out using them?
Well, tobacco exists.
lucullus@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Yermaw@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Obligatory parks and recreation
Skip a minute into it though for some reason the clip starts way sooner than it needs to.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
When people say, “I don’t use drugs”, almost never do they include alcohol in that. Alcohol, which is a drug, is always referred to separately, in large part because it’s a beverage. Most people, if asked, will agree that alcohol is a drug, but it’s not really categorized as one in their mind on a day-to-day basis. No one has a glass of wine at lunch and thinks, “I’m doing drugs now.” But, if alcohol as a liquid simply didn’t exist, but exactly the same effect could be had in pill form, I don’t think people would be taking a pill with their dinner, and washing it down with water.
radix@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
For many people, “drugs,” with no other qualifier, is just short-hand for “illegal drugs.” Plenty of people who say they don’t use drugs also take prescriptions or OTC medications.
It will be interesting in the next few years to see where marijuana ends up on that spectrum. Still largely illegal (federally), but if that changes, will people still consider it a “drug” in the same way they do now, or will it fall into a separate category like drugs that are mostly legal?
_g_be@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There’s people already, which smoke recreationally and/or advocate for legalization, that already don’t see it in the same category as other ‘harder’ drugs. And, it hasn’t always been illegal federally.
All this to say, it’ll probably end up near alcohol on the spectrum you describe
nesc@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
Alcohol is something that for a very long time was associated with civilisation itself, it was and is very important. It’s just embedded into most societies of course people don’t consider it drug.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
It was the only way to make water drinkable in many places
“Small beer” wasn’t made for funsies
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Also coffee, which is a stimulant.
slumberlust@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Caffeine (including Tea and Coffee sources) is by far the most widely abused drug.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
I agree, but there’s a significant difference
I love wine, beer and whisky and pretty much anything except vodka (because it’s boring)
I love it because of the flavours, the mouth-feel, the way I can pair drinks with food to enhance the enjoyment of both
I’ve never had coke, mushrooms, ketamine, weed or anything else that made me think “wow, this is yum! I reckon it’d go beautifully with a nicely aged cheddar, or oysters, or a perfectly cooked lamb shoulder”
DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
You’ve inspired me. Next time I decline a drink I’ll say no thanks, I don’t do drugs.
TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The only drug I do is either prescription drugs, or the caffeine I get from the occasional chocolate.