You thought 50TB was it? LOL! Hold on to your butts because 53.713TB SSDs are coming! These will cost you all your vital organs at 35years of age. Brains included.
This new 40TB hard drive from Seagate is just the beginning—50TB is coming fast!
Submitted 10 months ago by TheImpressiveX@lemm.ee to technology@lemmy.world
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altphoto@lemmy.today 10 months ago
Pnut@lemm.ee 10 months ago
If EA or Ubisoft don’t get their shit together this won’t be enough.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Hope you have a database for file management at that point.
rekabis@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
…And it’s bound to be stupidly expensive.
Wish I could afford 20 of them, but not without winning the Powerball.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 months ago
20 of them? Just curious, how would you use 800 or 1600 TB of storage?
rekabis@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
A mirror of Anna’s Archive.
Information is meant to be free.
Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
4k Blu-ray rips? Naw, probably porn.
pyre@lemmy.world 10 months ago
i don’t mind that, if it means that lower capacity drives will get cheaper
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 months ago
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
they have to make it at all before they make it cheaper
zod000@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
I know people love to dunk on Seagate drives, but it was really just the one gen that was the cause of that bad rep. Before that the most hated drives were the “deathstars” (Deskstars). I have a 1TB Seagate drive that is 10 years old and still in use daily. Just do some research on which drive to buy, no OEM is sacrosanct. I’d personally wait 6 months to a year before buying one of these drives though, so enough people have time to find out if this generation is trouble or not.
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 10 months ago
There are loads of people who think a company is bad because of one product, one service etc. A friend of mine hates Seagate, but he bought 10 drives of the same model. Pretty sure he even bought some after the first one failed … or people (like me) put desktop drives in a NAS or service with other drives. While mine are still good I expect them to fail any time since well they are not desinged for the use case I am using them for.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Many people can’t accept that one drive model isn’t going to kill a company or make everything from them bad.
The exception being the palladium drive. Although its not directly attributed to the fall of JTS, who at the time owned Atari. Its was clear from the frontline techs these things were absolute shit. The irony is that 1 out say 10,000 was perfect. So much so I still have one of the 1.2 gig’s that still spins up and reads and writes fine. Its nearly a unicorn though.
digilec@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I had one of these, it worked perfectly for years. I might even still have it. I remember it being a significant leap in size and cost per MB.
MangioneDontMiss@lemm.ee 10 months ago
i dunno man, i have about 20 years worth of bad experiences with seagate. none of their drives have ever been reliable for me. WD drives have always been rock solid and overall just better drives in my experience.
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 10 months ago
Seagate have never once secretly changed the underlying disk technology on a NAS grade drive to one utterly unsuited for use in a NAS drive and then sold it as a NAS grade drive at a premium price because it’s a NAS grade drive. So there’s that.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
I have killed every single type of magnetic platter drive from every brand they are all bad
zod000@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
The only drives I have ever had die on me were actually both WD, but it’s all anecdotal, and I’ve had tons of WD drives that were great (my favorites were the raptors and velociratpers). I’ve owned way too many HDDs over the many years, and I can say that I haven’t had issues with any, but again I do my research and only order from what I believe to be good runs of drives. In case you have never done so, take a look at the reports that Backblaze puts out on their drive reliability. I found it pretty eye opening. Before Backblaze start sharing their data, there used to be a site that crowd sourced HDD lifetimes and failure causes that I used to use when buying drives and I always entered my drive data there. I can’t recall the name of it now nor do I know if it still exists, but you could definitely spot the “bad” gens on there and WD and Seagate were both pretty even as far as I recall. I remember Hitachi being statistically worse, but it made sense as they bought IBM’s derided Deskstar business from them. Ironically, WD ended up buying Hitachi’s HDD business years later, but I think it was considered OK by then.
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
It’s all anecdotal for the most part. I’ve had two DOA WD drives in a row before, but no dead seagates.
As a side note, I hope you have those two WDs backed up, they’re overdue for a death.
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I can’t wait to lose even more data when this thing bricks
Gonzako@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I can’t wait to upgrade my NAS to a 200Tb Setup
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Great, can’t wait for it to be affordable in 2050.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Hey! You! Get offa the Cloud (and grab yourself one of those drives). You can keep your thoughts to yourself, now you can keep your data to yourself, like in the recent old times.
Infernal_pizza@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Best to get at least 2 so you have a backup
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Your own lil cloud
UltraBlack@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Wow great. From seagate. The company that produces drives with the by far lowest life expectancy compared to the competiton
elbarto777@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Is this true? I remember them being very reliable in the past.
ernest314@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I think people say this because there was one specific 6TB model that does really poorly in BackBlaze reports, combined with a generally poor understanding of statistics (“I bought a Seagate and it failed but I’ve never had a WD fail”).
I will also point out that BackBlaze themselves consistently say that Seagate and WD are pretty much the same (apart from the one model), in those exact same reports
crozilla@lemmy.world 10 months ago
And IIRC moved their headquarters to some Caribbean island to avoid paying US corporate taxes.
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 10 months ago
Pretty sure they are fiscally located in Ireland like a lot of big companies for tax reason and for EU VAT reasons.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 10 months ago
They’re called Seagate, not Landgate.
figaro@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Oh thank God, 40,000 gigabytes was not enough
MangioneDontMiss@lemm.ee 10 months ago
start building a media server. space goes quick. I’m sitting at about 100 TB right now and I’m running out of space.
PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 10 months ago
My 14TB are almost full but I can’t fathom what you’d use 100TB on??
8K ultra high def 3D hentai?
Guidy@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I have a 20TB seagate exos drive in my main pc and I hate it. Partly due to my case, but it’s noisy and does an obnoxious head reset (or whatever) every 7 minutes or so. It’s so loud.
MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
Yeah Exos are enterprise drives, so there’s no point in making them quiet like they do with lower speed desktop stuff.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 10 months ago
These drives aren’t for home desktops, they’re more for server setups with large datasets and redundancy. Lol why do you need a 20tb drive in your main PC?
I have 4 x 20tb drives in a true as where I have backups, movies, music, network accessible for the whole house.
Zacryon@feddit.org 10 months ago
Ah yes. Seagate. The trash storage device company. If you want to burn your money, just throw it into a fire before buying this e-waste.
Can not recommend.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Their mechanical drives, every mechanical drive company has issues. I have had 4 of the 20tb drives in a truenas setup since last summer with zero issues. Drives in this size should be redundant and under warranty, expect drives to die, they’re consumables. Replace, resilver, move on with life.
Zacryon@feddit.org 10 months ago
Sure. But in my experience Seagate drives are significantly worse. So why spend money on a shit company producing shit drives, if I can spend it on products of another company where I get more use and lifetime out of the product?
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Imagine losing a 50tb drive because you choose to use Seagate.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Seagate Exos is usually ok.
MangioneDontMiss@lemm.ee 10 months ago
exos are fine if you don’t mind them being loud as hell.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Imagine how long it’ll take to rebuild your raid array after one fails lol
MangioneDontMiss@lemm.ee 10 months ago
underrated comment. i’d much rather clone a 15 tb drive than 50 tb one. Also better speeds considering the use of more drives. That said, if I can save on electricity, noise, enclosure space, and very importantly, money, it could be pretty cool.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I mean personally, for long term data hoarding, I dislike running anything below raidz2, and imo anything less than 5 disks in that setup is just silly and inefficient in terms of cost/benefit. So I currently have 5x16TB in raidz2. The 60% capacity efficiency kinda blows, but also I didn’t want to spend any more on rust than I did at the time, and the array is still working great, so whatever.
nthavoc@lemmy.today 10 months ago
If you aren’t running a home server with tons of storage, this product is not for you. If the price is right, 40TB to 50TB is a great upgrade path for massive storage capacity without having to either buy a whole new backplane to support more drives or build an entirely new server. I see a lot of comments comparing 4TB SSDS to 40TB HDD’s so had to chime in. Yes, they make massive SSD storage arrays too, but a lot of us don’t have those really deep pockets.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 10 months ago
I’m still waiting for prices to fall below 10 € per TB. Lost a 4 TB drive prematurely in the 2010s. I thought I could just wait a bit until 8 TB drives cost the same. You know, the same kind of price drops HDDs have always had about every 2 years or so. Then a flood or an earthquake or both happened and destroyed some factories and prices shot up and never recovered.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Thank you! I lol’d at the guy with one in his main PC lol. Like why?
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
I expect many are not upgrading every small incremental improvement too. It’s the 20TB HDDs that are ready to replace.
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 10 months ago
I’d buy two and only turn the other on for a once a month backup. For one lone pirate just running two drives, it would be endgame basically. You’re good.
noxypaws@pawb.social 10 months ago
phrasing
hark@lemmy.world 10 months ago
No thanks. I’d rather have 4TB SSDs that cost $100. We were getting close to that in 2023, but then the memory manufacturers decided to collude and jacked up prices.
zod000@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
To be fair, I believe the increased pricing then was mostly due to sales, and thus production, tanking post COVID along with the big inflation for a couple of years. There was almost certainly greed from the most prominent memory makers tackedo n though.
hark@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Memory manufacturers purposely cut production to help justify cost increases: tomshardware.com/…/memory-prices-rebound-due-to-r…
But yeah, they’ll also take advantage of demand (real or imaginary) to jack up prices: tomshardware.com/…/micron-confirms-memory-price-h…
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
I thought prices seemed to be taking a while come down on 4TB SSDs as I had been looking at them for a while.
Don’t really want it enough to spend £200 though. Would be to replace a 1+2TB HDD LVM. Now that I think about it, I have never copied a few TBs of data in one go.
zod000@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
I just recently replaced a bunch of 1TB and 2TB drives with an 4TB SSD and 8TB HDD pretty cheaply back in December. I was trying to get those in before tariff shenanigans. Technically, those old drives are still in use, just for redundancy now. Even the scary old Seagate drives!
AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee 10 months ago
[deleted]Jolteon@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
You do realize that there is probably a fair chunk of people on here who can say that unironically?
Machinist@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’ve only got 32tb in the family Raid 5 (actually 24TB since I lose a drive to parity), but my girl really loves her trash TV while she works so we’re on like 90% full.
And I’m just a podunk machinist.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 10 months ago
cool. now I can lose even more data when it dies.
no thanks…
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 10 months ago
And they’d only be like $5k each. HDD prices have gone ridiculous. I’d just like 20TB drives to be reasonably priced. 10TB drives are twice the price they were 5 years ago.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
i can finally seed every spn season
goodboyjojo@lemm.ee 10 months ago
cool 50tb. i can now download more stuff.
SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
If 50TB is coming fast, then so am I
LodeMike@lemmy.today 10 months ago
CAN WE PLEASE JUST GET 3.5" SSDS. PLEASE
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Well, that’s certainly possible, but 2.5" might just be a better form factor for SSDs. The thing is, an SSD is just a bunch of chips on a PCB, so they really don’t need the extra height afforded to them by a 3.5" bay.
You could probably fit 2 pcbs one on top of the other within a 3.5" drive, but that would also be more complicated to manufacture and worse for cooling than using two individual 3.5" or m.2 cards.
Also, for a bunch of reasons smaller is usually better. Generally, it tends to be cheaper to use a few large capacity chips on a small board than it is to use a lot of lower capacity chips on a larger board. Of course fewer parts also means fewer potential points of failure, so better for quality control. And again, smaller cards are better for case airflow and cooling.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
Aren’t a lot of the 2.5" ones already empty space?
How big, and how expensive, would a 3.5" SSD be, if it actually filled enough of the space with NAND chips for the form factor to be warranted?
xthexder@l.sw0.com 10 months ago
Well, Kioxia sells a 30TB 2.5in SSD right now for about $5k. I’m sure they could make a 60+TB SSD by just stacking 2 of them in a 3.5in case.
GaMEChld@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yeah, why aren’t there any?
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I just addressed that in a post above yours.
Basically smaller form factors are probably just better in this case. 3.5" drive bays were designed with more complicated mechanical drives in mind, and given how nand flash memory works, they don’t make as much sense for SSDs.
DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 10 months ago
There are: nimbusdata.com/products/exadrive/specifications/
They are just not listed in shops for poor people. (joking)
billwashere@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I know right. Why is this not a thing already? I mean I understand the various U.2, U.3, and EDSFF are great for high density data center installs. We have a 1U box in production that could be as high as 1 PB given current densities with E1.L drives but that’s enterprise level stuff. I just want a huge 3.5 SSD I could put in these pro-consumer level NAS boxes or maybe even one I could build myself for my home lab.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 10 months ago
Thru exist but they’re all several hundred dollars and 480 GB for some reason.
uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 10 months ago
Best I can do is a 3.5’’ inch SATA to USB adapter case with one of these tiny SSDs glued in
HiTekRedNek@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Don’t forget to include the hacked controller software that reports the drive size as triple what it actually is.
echodot@feddit.uk 10 months ago
That’s pretty impressive a couple of those and you could probably download the next Call Of Duty.
FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Oh wow does it come with glowing green computery looking stuff like in the picture
Snoopey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
The image is literally just the proprietary xbox drive plugged into an xbox
FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I had an Xbox and it didn’t do that either!!!
echodot@feddit.uk 10 months ago
I do like that the picture on an article about a 40 TB drive is overdrive clearly labelled as 1 TB. Like couldn’t they have edited the image?
FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I’ve been buying computer stuff for like 30 years and never once has any of it had any weird glowing stuff like on the box
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 10 months ago
Incoming 1Tb videogames. Compression? Who the fuck needs compression.
SynonymousStoat@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I don’t know about that. These are spinning disks so they aren’t exactly going to be fast when compared to solid state drives. Then again, I wouldn’t exactly put it past some of the AAA game devs out there.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 10 months ago
Yeah, I’d expect the bloat to hit when there is a boost in SSD sizes. Right now I think the biggest consumer-grade SSDs are 8TB and are still rather expensive.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
10 of these in a raid6?that’s 4x speed and 400tb.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Black ops 6 just demanded another 45 GB for an update on my PS5, when the game is already 200 GB. AAA devs are making me look more into small indie games that don’t eat the whole hard drive to spend my money on, great job folks.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Ok, I’m sorry, but… HOW??? How is it possibly two hundred fucking gigabytes??? What the fuck is taking up so much space???
DemandtheOxfordComma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
So all the other hard drives will be cheaper now, right? Right?
Sunflier@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Can’t wait to see how these 40 TB hard drives, a wonderment of technology, will be used to further shove AI down my throat.