Oh gawd I hope this is real…thats <stable>
Oof
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andybytes@programming.dev 3 hours ago
caboose2006@lemm.ee 10 hours ago
Our ancestors worked 16 hours a day 6 days a week. Maybe we should go back to that just to be fair. My grandparents didn’t have the polio vaccine better stop that too.
Case@lemmynsfw.com 6 hours ago
Except, no?
Medieval peasants had SOOO many holidays.
It was a cheap way to keep them from violently revolting. Even then, it didn’t always work.
Speaking of violent revolt against an oppressive system, where are we at?
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Medieval peasants had SOOO many holidays.
Holidays meant “you don’t have to work for the lord who owns your land”, but since they were subsistence farmers in the middle ages, that meant they still had to tend the animals and do the work on their own plots. They were absolutely still working during their “holidays”.
rosco385@lemm.ee 5 hours ago
Speaking of violent revolt against an oppressive system, where are we at?
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 7 hours ago
www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-29/…/103500020
“In the Middle Ages, people actually had more leisure time and more holidays than we do,” cultural historian Witold Rybczynski tells ABC RN’s Life Matters.
“Leisure was more important in terms of everyday life than the work. The work was harder and broken up much more … compared to today.”
andybytes@programming.dev 2 hours ago
Yes yes yes… You give these fat cat bastards an inch and they’ll take a mile. Efficiency is not for me. It’s for the money man. Also, what type of efficiency are we talking about here?
Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 10 hours ago
Jesus fuck… don’t give them any ideas.
Tryenjer@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
To be honest, that’s exactly what many “conservatives” today want. They would be better described as reactionaries than conservatives.
akintudne@reddthat.com 6 hours ago
Regressive is the term you’re searching for.
musubibreakfast@lemm.ee 9 hours ago
We’ll all become peasants who serve a lord and we’ll call it natural living
LMurch@thelemmy.club 8 hours ago
CEOs, “Sounds wonderful. Lets!”
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 10 hours ago
They would be delighted about the lack of vaccines
witchybitchy@lemm.ee 13 hours ago
can we yeet all these arrogantly selfish, self-righteous fucks into a volcano already?
acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 hour ago
I hear they’re selling 9mm volcanoes like hot cakes. Got yourself some if you’re sanguine about it.
whostosay@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Preach
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Because “f u, I got mine” is the one true creed in American society, and everyone that opposes it is a heretic/commie.
watson387@sopuli.xyz 10 hours ago
Hooray for me and fuck you!
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Meshes nicely with their preference to socialize the losses (if I got screwed, gimme your tax money) and capitalize the gains (just gimme all your money) that they prefer in their kleptocratic or coporatocratic government style.
toastmeister@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
This women doesnt want to pay for someone elses university degree, lets hang her!
CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
Noooot really a shitpost?
cm0002@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
witchybitchy@lemm.ee 13 hours ago
one person’s shit post is another’s shitpost
Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
Everything is a shitpost on the internet.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 12 hours ago
Allow me to shit-respond.
simple@lemm.ee 12 hours ago
Lemmy LOVES this ragebait shit
Empricorn@feddit.nl 9 hours ago
Lemmy is not some homogeneous hive-mind.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 12 hours ago
Do we know if she supports paying for her son’s incarceration?
gaja@lemm.ee 13 hours ago
The show-me state strikes again
AidsKitty@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
You went to school, got the degree, and accepted the terms of the loans. Welcome to adulthood.
filcuk@lemmy.zip 10 hours ago
Ah yes, the I suffered so should you argument
AidsKitty@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
No it is more an argument of responsibility. Many students didn’t go to college because they researched how much it costs, the terms of the loans, and made the decision they could not afford it. These are the people being cheated and I don’t support that.
barooboodoo@lemm.ee 10 hours ago
What happens if your school loses accreditation or you get kicked out for protesting in the wrong way?
MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 9 hours ago
What happens if your school loses accreditation
Ooo ooo I know this one! That’s when you get a letter in the mail saying the feds have taken over your loan, the month payments start being due, and literally no other information. And then you call them and ask where to send payments and they say to send it wherever you had been sending it, seemingly missing the part where they just took over the loan. And then life happens and you realize you haven’t made payments. So you call and get the same runaround. And then you call later and give them an address update when you move, ask them about paying, and get treated like you have three heads. And then a few years later you get a very angry letter that the loan is in default. So you call and explain, and the person on the other end treats you like human filth, barely stopping short of using obscenities. So you hang up to let your anger simmer down, call back, and speak with “a manager.” Explain the whole thing top to bottom. That’s when you find out that when they took over your loan seven years ago, they immediately put it into the delinquent bin even though it was quite fresh at the time. And everyone you’ve talked to since just assumed you were a deadbeat.
Then you pay off the loan total using a credit card (because it’s thousands of dollars and you’re broke) and pay the interest again.
rational_lib@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
All three people here are terrible
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
Go ahead, explain, what did the guy answering her question do wrong, exactly?
rational_lib@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
The question asks why the audience’s student loans should be repaid now when hers were not. The response is that the reason is the same as paying for her son’s prison sentence for raping a minor, which is “betterment of society”. Let’s count the number of ways this fails:
- “For the betterment of society” is a justification that could be used for pretty much any defensible policy decision. It really doesn’t further the argument at all unless there is something specified about how paying student loans makes society better.
- RAPING A MINOR is in caps both to indicate shoutiness and to emphasize this aspect of the crime, which again, is hard to tie back to an argument about student loans
- The main failure - the fact that it’s a blatant ad hominem directed at the poster for having a son who raped a minor, which is an evidently successful attempt to hide the weakness of the purported argument by casting the OP as someone whom one would not want to be associated with by virtue of being a parent to a rapist. This implied argument, which is the real argument, is invalid in the absence of evidence that rapist-parents cannot have valid opinions.
- It’s also a particularly egregious example of an ad hominem because it relies on guilt/worthiness by blood relation, the same concept behind ideas like racism and even worse, inheritance.
Better answers might include:
- Education costs have risen to a degree that the fairness calculation is now different
- Student loan debt is a threat to the whole economy and just as bailing out banks sometimes makes sense, bailing out student loan holders might as well
- Financial inequality is out of control and we should dispense with antiquated notions of “fairness” to the wealthy when circumstances have been more fair to them overall than at any time in the past
But these answers would not get reposted on social media as much because they don’t play into tribalism and social drama.
floo@retrolemmy.com 13 hours ago
If your husband is a sex, criminal, boo-hoo, he belongs in jail
NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 12 hours ago
I’m not saying you’re wrong, because it could very well be the case, but it doesn’t mention in the post that he is her husband-son.
OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Perpetuating the myth that student loan forgiveness means “your taxes are paying off student loans,” when it really means “government is telling banks to fuck off with their excessive interest rates on student loans.”
Tax money isn’t going to the banks* or the students. The students have usually paid off the loans, and are now struggling with the interest debt. The gov’t telling the bank to give up on that debt isn’t hurting anyone, but the bank doesn’t get as much profit as they could have - and since the banks own the senators & media outlets, we get the myth that student loan forgiveness means “taxes paying off student loans.”
*note - you think some deals do include the gov’t giving the banks some money to “cover their (imaginary) losses.”
callouscomic@lemm.ee 10 hours ago
Also in the US, the bottom 50% don’t pay a dime in federal income taxes.
Also the concept of “MY” tax dollars is super selfish.
shalafi@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Imma need a source on that. Bottom 50% of who?
andybytes@programming.dev 2 hours ago
Their solution is always put it on the consumer. Them prices are to high you need to cut it. Cut it…cut it…cut it. And the downward spiral continues. Straight to the singularity, the butthole of human ignorance.
bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 11 hours ago
I really wish we would make it a crime to spin narratives in bad faith.
ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 9 hours ago
Every public statement by a politician should be considered under oath
lime@feddit.nu 11 hours ago
at least here the student loans are given out directly by the state. which means the state sets the interest rate. for the past 10 years, it has been 0%.