Full Circle

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• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I was imaging this meme just last week, while my wife finished renewing her Italian passport and stuffing a bugout bag full of Euros.

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• sunflowercowboy@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Huh? The rich people are creating the discomfort? The meek definitely aren’t inheriting the world?

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    • sunflowercowboy@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No the uber rich creat discomfort, the rich instead move than rectify it with their weight.

      It’s why theyre able to run, and the meek must inherit their suffering. Too afraid to live and face the adversity.

      The meek have no choice but to inherit your suffering you abandoned and rise. Why do you think europe is capable of being ran to? The peopl stayed and worked it.

      Only the rich think you can run from tyranny, and only the meek know what it means to submit without wanting. Bloodshed will be regardless, but good men fear to lose their right and bad men hope to gain righteousness.

      Do something more than coward is my mentality.

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• Enzy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Welcome to the fuck america club

  Leave your guns at the door

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  • x3x3@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And be one with the nanny state

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• demizerone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Until we undo capitalism, we are going to have these 80 year cycles

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I mean, the cycle started with the implementation of capitalism. Italy was functionally feudalistic (particularly in the southern territories) until the mid-19th century, with state power relegated to a hodgepodge of principalities. It’s only really been a unified country since 1870 and lagged on industrialization until the Cold War Era, when the US Marshall Plan made it an industrial and shipping beachhead for NATO-bloc manufacturing and trade (as well as a military base to strike out at North Africa and the Middle East).

    The waves of Italian immigrants weren’t fleeing capitalism. They were fleeing the two World Wars and the industrial collapse of Europe. Americans, by contrast, won’t experience the same immediate socio-economic pressures to leave. So I suspect a lot of the reverse-migration we’ll see to Italy will be coming from an American middle class seeking to retire into a post-industrial retirement playground rather than an Italian underclass seeking gainful employment and safety from chronic civil wars and invasions.

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  • IceFoxX@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What would be the alternative? Socialism and thus the standstill of further development? It would have to be extremely state-regulated capitalism. But above all taxes! So on the rich. Democracies would have to be able to protect their own form of government… but they didn’t think about it when they were founded because everyone was happy about the positive outcome. So that our democracies are attacked from within. Above all, America needed to regulate tech companies more. Tax havens should be prevented, etc. Capitalism itself promotes further development. It just needs to be protected from abuse. Private individuals should never have too much money and therefore automatically have power.

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    • loonsun@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why would socialist halt development?

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• Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Full circle indeed.

  If shit hits the fan, company of heroes 4 will finally have something new instead of another WW2 thingy

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• WorkshopBubby@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  good ass meme

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• S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Uruguay has a pretty easy system you can make a request of residence and it seems that usually go through. Americans do not need a visa to come but if you prepare the paperwork is easier…

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  • PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Only issue is crime has gotten worse there over the years

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    • Shardikprime@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Immigration has increased too as well

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  • Lightsong@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Tell me more about Uruguay. What’s irs like over there, standard of living etc.

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    • Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Best option on Latin America on pretty much any standard. Progressive laws, good weather - main negative thing I can think of is that rent can be quite expensive. I’ve considered moving there in the past but my Spanish is awful.

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    • kboy101222@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      A quick scan of Wikipedia shows there’s an actual left wing party currently in power that was formerly led by a guerilla fighter during the military occupation of the country in the 80s

      As well they legalized abortions in 2012 and weed and same sex marriage in 2013

      It’s got a 3 branch government similar to America

      Economy seems stable, Internet seems good.

      Guess it’s time to start learning Portuguese or Spanish!

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• Shardikprime@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The type of people who think like this, believe wholeheartedly that everything that doesn’t conform to their mindset is fascism/Nazism/[insert -ism you don’t like here]

  You might not like it, but that’s how it is

  Thinking like this will make you find fascism wherever you go. You’ll find it in Gaza, in Iran , Japan, Greenland. You will find it in your parents , your neighbor, your kids, street signs, China, in Bernie Sanders office, chatting with Obama, having dinner with Kamala, in opera, with monks, inside the ISS, even fucking Antarctica.

  Make yourself a favor and maybe think for a while before leaving your country to poison others:

  “if everywhere I go smells like fascism, is it them? Or maybe, just maybe, is it me”?

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  • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Do the world a favor and paint the all with your brains, Nazi scum

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  • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I agree that the left is just putting labels on everything but why are you against them emigrating? Are you actually afraid of people who will leave instead of sinking together?

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  • leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Let me guess - you think Elon was saying ‘from my heart to yours’, right?

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  • Fifrok@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I caught myself writing a long response to this, but I got something that I belive will be better: Ok, USAmerican.

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  • CalipherJones@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Giving positions to loyalists ✅

    Demonizing minorities ✅

    An attempted coup ✅

    Consolidating and exercising central executive power ✅

    Attacking the media ✅

    Creating his own media apparatus ✅

    Isolating the country from the rest of the world ✅

    Theres a whole novel on the wall and you’re not reading it.

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    • Shardikprime@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah I wasn’t talking about the Soviet union

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  • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Okay fascist.

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  • BlueArcher@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    speak for yourself boss. that’s simply not true.

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  • colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Should be easy enough to identify theguardian.com/…/how-to-spot-a-fascist-the-umber…

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  • blarth@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fascism is relatively simple to identify. When the leader of your country begins calling dissidents enemies of the state, saying journalists should experience violence, ignoring checks and balances, establishing prison camps…

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• stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Fascism is on the rise in Europe too so maybe go to Japan or something

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  • randomname@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    yes, the country famous for being accepting of foreigners, that is also known for a high standard of living…

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    • stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      ok then move to mars, final offer

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  • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The far-right in Europe seems to have lost momentum a bit-- for now. The far-right parties in government in Sweden and Netherlands proved themselves incompetent and lost support. The support on German AfD stagnated. Meloni has shown to be more moderate than expected (well, not quite but that’s a long story). And Le Pen has been prosecuted, but I think this is not enough to actually kill the French far-right movement so long as the French government still practice neoliberal policies. But I think the major factor that made Europeans think twice now about gravitating towards fascism is after witnessing the shit show in America and Musk’s overt election interference in Europe. I should not be laughing, but what a laugh the three months of Trump administration has been!

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    • VeryVito@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Be real careful. We thought we were turning the corner a few years ago, too. Seems so long ago.

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    • SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Incompetence, it seems, is what is valued here in America to go up the ranks.

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    • sgbrain7@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      that’s actually a bit reassuring to know

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  • fin@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As a Japanese, I think Japan has always been a fascists’ country. The flavor of nazism did change from Germany one to American one after WW2, though

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  • nico198X@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    still, EU countries have far superior electoral systems than the US to help mitigate the rise and influence of Fascism.

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    • stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      yeah we have this thing called democracy it’s pretty cool

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    • Bloomcole@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They even have multiple parties and an Overton window wider than only right to extreme-right!

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    • Saleh@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That is if the other parties aren’t largely complicit. Looking at you Germany, Denmark, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Poland, Hungary…

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  • MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Embrace pedophilia 😵

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    • HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What a disgusting thing to say. Also, a little racist.

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  • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Japanese are starting to hate gaijin. Because of disrespectful tourists and “influencers”.

    youtu.be/BR7B0Pjh3lE

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    • Brandonazz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • Bloomcole@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Japan has its own fascists.

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  • BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They’re extremely racist, which is a huge plus, just like the Swiss flag 🇨🇭

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    • Bloomcole@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Like plenty countries, but it only becomes a problem when it’s also against whites.

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    • Bloomcole@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Saying that could be seen as extremely racist of you.

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    • stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      True. Australia and New Zealand are our last hope

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• Hikuro93@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Europe accepts its sons and daughters of long ago. Specially the talented ones who contributed to empowering science in the US.

  Let’s call it a loan repayment.

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  • iheartneopets@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I wish the first part were actually true, on the bureaucratic level. Sadly it is quite difficult to emigrate to the EU

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  • Bloomcole@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    How are they great?
    Their economy is going to shit, they have a massive right-wing party, are complete warmongers and supporters of genocide.

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• wander1236@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Your family brought the curse with them

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  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    wait isn’t there some christian story about exactly that … 🤔

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• My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Be a Patriot Fleeing America before you are threatened feels a lot like obeying in advance. By George Packer for The Atlantic

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  • MECHAGODZILLA2@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Agreed. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, cowards.

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  • InversionOfControl@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I want to leave to ensure the safety of those closest to me.

      But I also want to stay and fight like hell.

      Unfortunately, even if the immediate fascism were beaten back, I have very little faith in anything but capitochristofascism’s resolve to continue to be absolutely shitty, and general American ignoarrogance to reign supreme, for the rest of my life.

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    • themaninblack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Same. I bought my ticket the day after the second election. If you’re in Melbourne let’s have a Freedom Beer

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  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    roko’s basilisk or sth

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  • Fontasia@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “The belief that America stands for an idea beyond blood and soil makes its identity fragile, because an idea lives in people’s minds, where it is subject to lies, hatred, ignorance, despair, even extinction. But for this very reason, as long as enough Americans continue to believe in the idea with enough conviction to stick it out here and fight, the country that you and I once lived in will still exist for the generation after us.”

    The belief that a country should exist purely for nostalgic purposes is the kind of bullshit that got us here in the first place. Countries started existing so that a monach could control resources and worker productivity. Now they are used as a default identity for people to try and connect on some level. If you don’t treat the identity as fragile, sure it can never ‘die’, but it can’t improve or change either.

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• cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The fascism was within you the whole time.

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  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    i have come to the conclusion that there is a god and a heaven, alright, but it’s a cruel place that i would never ever ever want to go to. ever

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• ch00f@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  /pedant the term would be “emigrating”

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• ininewcrow@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Image

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