They should produce a Beetle EV.
The Volkswagen ID. EVERY1 is an affordable EV for the masses
Submitted 2 months ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theverge.com/news/624676/vw-id-every1-ev-price-range-specs-2027
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muhyb@programming.dev 2 months ago
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The Volkswagen Bug Zapper.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Beetle EV
The Karmann Ghia EV conversions are stunning. Go see the most gorgeous thing VW ever made do 0-60 in 3 seconds.
So, as someone who drove three different classic beetles in the past, you know the KG is still my vote.
cloudless@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Sounds like a model name for American police cars.
reddig33@lemmy.world 2 months ago
VW lost the plot on product names years ago.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 months ago
Do you suspect me of a crime? Am I being detained?
Hubi@feddit.org 2 months ago
Lmfao I never made that connection
BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 2 months ago
ID. EveryNW
drmoose@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Launches in 2027 lmao
By that time Chinese evs will be flying or smt
krigo666@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There are already affordable EVs in Europe, as an example the Dacia Spring which has the same 230km autonomy and even lower price (18-19.000€ retail final price to consumer in Portugal which has high taxes on new vehicles).
Not as snazzy looking though, that’s what’s really important! /s
Venator@lemmy.nz 2 months ago
Not as snazzy looking though
I doubt the production version will look that snazzy, I bet it’ll end up being much taller and look more like this: 1000004894
Kualdir@feddit.nl 2 months ago
This is why I’m more looking forward to the id.2, this actually looks like a good one for the price www.volkswagen.nl/modellen/id-2all
herrvogel@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They won’t stop until even the pedals are touch buttons, are they?
skeesx@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I looked up the Dacia Spring and it says, that it’s manufactured in China.
Melonpoly@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The manufacturing county of the world is manufacturing this car?
shinratdr@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Is it just me or is that the worst name for a car in the history of the automobile?
potoo22@programming.dev 2 months ago
Mazda’s Laputa translates to “the bitch” in Spanish.
There’s also Ford’s Probe…
But yeah ID.EVERY1 is a mediocre name.
SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 2 months ago
Audi’s Etron translates to “turd” in French.
Siegfried@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Also, marica, moco, pajero, borrego… there is like a competition
Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s much worse than that. Perra means bitch but puta means prostitute. Lol
0ops@lemm.ee 2 months ago
It’s not great but ‘bad car names’ is a whole genre, one that vw in particular excels at. These are the guys that brought you the “Tiguan”. Look it up, that’s not some fancy Spanish word or something, they literally just jammed the words “tiger” and “iguana” together and thought that it’d be the perfect name for their new mom-car.
rustydomino@lemmy.world 2 months ago
To be fair Tiguan when phonetically translated into Chinese is 踢館， which means “going to someone else’s house and kicking the shit out of them” which is kind of fire.
WhatSay@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
155 mile range, well that’s a local commuter car, that’s it. The masses need things besides a local commuter car.
Kualdir@feddit.nl 2 months ago
There’s also an ID.2all that’s more geared towards the masses: www.volkswagen.nl/modellen/id-2all
Personally this car would cover any drive I do except going back home and back (where I’d have to charge… at home here and home there… so still fine really)
Grass@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
That’s 2 days of the longest work commute I’ve ever had. If the owner drives their daily then comes home and plugs it in I doubt it will ever be a problem. I’ve never heard range complaints from anyone that actually owns an ev either. There’s also a lot of people that have brought up road trips but none of the ones I know IRL have gone on road trips with their gas cars. I can’t see it as much more than people just don’t want to give up their cancer fumes.
WhatSay@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
It’s totally fine if it works for people, but I regularly drive long distance, and limited range means planning everything around that.
I have been looking at aptera, which might have longer range due to being aerodynamic and efficient. That’s what I want to see offered more for EVs. Problem is, it’s not a reality until it’s available for sale.
SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I commute 63 miles one way, every day.
1984@lemmy.today 2 months ago
The Volvo EX30 looks good as well but its super plastic and low quality inside. This car will probably follow the same pattern since they need make money on these ones too.
squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Hurray another EV that isn’t a sedan and is ugly too. Just what the market needs.
Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Tbf hatchbacks take up the same amount of space but have better cargo capacity. Best of both worlds. I love that I can toss my ebike and lots of camping gear in my tiny Bolt and take it camping. Not possible in a sedan.
yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
It’s tiny though, that gives it a lot of slack
reddig33@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There are currently no plans to ship this in the US. 🙄
Enkrod@feddit.org 2 months ago
Why would you ship a small car to a country in love with the biggest streetpanzers?
hark@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’d be a decent deal now, but this launches in 2027, by which point this would be underwhelming.
independantiste@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Looks really good. Let’s hope it’s more reliable than their disastrous id4
rustydomino@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If this comes to the US I will trade in my ID.4 for this. Small = sexy.
Reygle@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They’ve gone out of their way to avoid showing the hatch opened. From the pictures they DO have there, it appears the hatch opening area is borderline useless. My question is WHY?
Mac@mander.xyz 2 months ago
You can tell it’s a concept that isn’t in production because it has big wheels with thin tires and no tire-to-fender gap.
Concept images are just for hype.
Spaniard@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I rather buy another Korean or Japanese car.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I don’t mean to be an apologist for dieselgate - I’m not, it was scummy and I’m glad VW execs ended up in prison - but all carmakers had illegally high diesel emissions.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_emissions_scandal
VW weren’t even close to the worst for it, either. Fiat, Hyundai, and Renault-Nissan (they partner for engine designs a lot) were the worst, VW was bizarrely one of the least over the legal limit.
We just affiliate it with VW more because they were not only the first to be tested, but the VW executives admitted to using cheat devices, whereas most others denied it.
isableandaking@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I don’t get thesr automakers, who is this made for, don’t they see that tesla is killing it with their largr batteries. Why can’t they put a 600miles battery with 2 motors for awd, get some fake noises/feels when changing gears, get some smaller rims with more rubber and put the best brake system for an 18" wheel - which I think is the Brembo Sensify. Keep the physical buttons for important features for easy access, add a huge lcd panel for navigation and include carplay/android auto wirelessly - done deal. Make it cost as much as a full blown tesla model s and call it a day - you just stole 90% of the market. Add quick charging system and then you just gotta start building better charging stations.
Wait tesla is killing them and if it wasn’t for Musk going full adolf, he could have had the universal people’s car.
gian@lemmy.grys.it 2 months ago
I don’t get thesr automakers, who is this made for, don’t they see that tesla is killing it with their largr batteries.
It is made for people living in places where you maybe don’t need to drive 50 miles to go to the nearest mall… a car with 600 miles autonomy would be an overkill if you just need to drive about 10/20 miles a day while commuting.
Why can’t they put a 600miles battery
because they are useless for the target market.
If you don’t need to drive that long distance for everything, you don’t need big batteries with all the associate problems (weight, dimension and so on) that in the end don’t give you any real bonus if not the fact that maybe you can recharge it less often.isableandaking@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The problem is that the battery degrades, so it’s a good idea to keep it charges to 60-80% so that it last way longer. If you have 600 miles of max range then that means you can easily have 360-480 miles for your driving. This is overkill as well right ? Wrong, if you live in a cold climate it practically gets halved so now you have 180-240 miles of driving.
Let’s say it’s summer though, now you want to drive 600 miles to your nearest ocean/sea and want to sightsee along the way. With a battery that big you might have to charge once and not even fully to have enough confidence driving to places where charging might be limited.
That’s why smaller batteries make sense only if you use the car for daily commuting, now you need to rent or buy a proper long range gas car or ev car - which now costs you quite a bit more or adds inconvenience. With tesla the problem is almost solved, but they have problematic political views and minimalistic interiors and a max battery of 402 miles. So yeah I think it’s worth it to make a car that costs 3x what VW are pushing, but is useful to everybody.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 months ago
This is why there are no plans to try to sell something like this in the US. I drive three hours each way on day-trips fairly often, and a couple times a year I drive around 1000 miles per day for longer trips. Even people who live in cities with short commutes often want to travel to places several hours away pretty regularly. Here you can drive for hours and hours and hours and not even leave the state. It’s not like we can take a train either.
reddig33@lemmy.world 2 months ago
EVs don’t need fancy brakes because they use regenerative braking.
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Regenerative braking is great for slowing down gradually, but when you really need to stop quick, it’s your brakes that will do most of the work.
I wouldn’t trust any vehicle with front drums in a panic stop.
gian@lemmy.grys.it 2 months ago
I am not sure that in EU you can omologate a car wihout classic brakes.
isableandaking@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There’s that, but the problem is weight, with a 600mile range battery it’s gonna be a heavy car, with small 18 inch tires and more rubber to make the ride softer you can’t fit large piston brakes, so you need to make changes to improve the overall experience - think about a system that stops a small EV with the weight of a large SUV faster than a sports car. It would make for an amazing driving experience as EVs have great acceleration, just not the best weight balance, even though it’s mostly kept to the floor for a lower point of gravity. Not to mention you would be saving lives in the case of an accident.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Well this car is for people who don’t want to spend the kind of money you need to spend on a Tesla. This is supposed to be a cheap EV. Also the car you described exists. Porsche, Mercedes and Lotus are selling Model S competitors.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Why can’t they put a 600miles battery with 2 motors for awd
They do that for more expensive models.
The advantage of small batteries is higher efficiency and more range per charge hour in addition to a cheaper car.
RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
I love the style. Finally they’re breaking their idiotic EV styling they came up with years ago. The ID.3 is just plain ugly.
tiramichu@lemm.ee 2 months ago
The wheels still scream “I’m an EV!” though, with that design that incorporates loads of flat area, but I’m glad the body design is moving away.
I can see why manufacturers and wanted “EV style” - EVs were the new hotness and so the makers want to strongly telegraph the electric nature of the car in the design language. And I’m sure certain consumers also liked driving around in something that looks like an alien spaceship.
But that design gets old real quick. Personally I don’t want crazy, I want classic shapes and a car that just looks like an ordinary car.
tankplanker@lemmy.world 2 months ago
EV wheels done correctly actually lower the drag on the car improving efficiency. If they are done really well they also lighter with lower rolling resistance reducing that all important unsprung weight, which further helps efficiency.
Wheels even affect ICE cars, with larger heavier wheels impacting CO2 rating and economy for some models. The VW XL1 is an extreme example of this pushed as far as it could go at the time.
Mac@mander.xyz 2 months ago
Any car company can draw pretty cars. lol
RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
But starting anew with a bad concept is still a bad start.
thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Exactly! It’s choosing not to do which makes some companies special!
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 months ago
No, it isn’t.
It might be, if Volkswagen actually come through on their promises, in 20whatever.
turnip@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
First world countries will be scrambling to replace their high tech industries as China eats their lunch.
lefixxx@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Ok mr reviewer
Why don’t you tell us less about WV’s strategy a more about how the car is.
Does it spy on you? What kind of EULA will I need to agree to? Does it have car play/android auto? Does it have a 4G antenna to connect to VW servers even if I don’t enable the feature? Does it have an app? In what ways is VW going to try to get subscription money from me? How much does servicing cost? How much will a set of brake pads cost? Does VW support 3rd party repair shops? Does VW try to lockdown parts and forbid 3rd party repairs? Can it be remotely disabled? By me, by VW, by law enforcement? What happens when the battery needs replacing?
Patch@feddit.uk 2 months ago
It’s a concept car; none of those things are actually known or knowable yet.
lefixxx@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Fair
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 months ago
Ehhh I think it is. You should pretty much expect all of those things from any new car.
Consumers have spoken and they don’t care about privacy, reliability or repairability.
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
I feel like the title of the article should really be future tense.
lath@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Do you even need to ask? It’s in the name, ID every1!
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Mac@mander.xyz 2 months ago
Review what? It’s a concept. This is basically an ad. lol
SippyCup@feddit.nl 2 months ago
The car he’s reviewing does not exist. He has some technical specs and a few renders to review.
0x0@programming.dev 2 months ago
All new cars do and this one doesn’t even hide it, it’s called “id everyone”.
thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Not to mention that VW lied to its customers before with the emissions scam…
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Funny how you’re asking questions that no real human cares about when shopping for car…
CaptainThor@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’m a person, I care
oldfart@lemm.ee 2 months ago
What do your people ask then? “Does it come in red too?”