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Way, way too many websites. I have to research all of them just to use one? I have choice paralysis! The corporations are right, I shouldn’t be trusted to make decisions for myself, and the internet should be like cable.
PACK 1a €5/month Get access to “my self-hosted VPN + obfuscation proxy”
IP over WhatsApp?
Snapchat belongs in the free tier.
Where the fuck is all the usefull stuff, it’s only socials? Where’s maps, or a shared drive
$100/month tier of course
I used to want this unironically, id pay $30 a month to not see any ads AT ALL. However my mind has changed. I now see ad companies as immoral and, quite frankly, evil.
I would rather not only not give them money, but I choose to use a Ublock Origin fork AdNauseam that ‘clicks’ on all the ads. This seems counter intuitive, but since some advertisers pay per click so clicking a total of a combined 10,000 advertisements on my desktop/laptop/steam deck/whatever costs them a LOT of money, and I’ve bought 0 products from advertisements because i haven’t seen any advertisements!
I’d never heard of AdNauseam; does it replace uBlock entirely? Is it possible to run both?
Just run adnauseam on its own. I use it too, my thinking is that I am going to be tracked anyway. So instead of trying and almost certainly failing at avoiding it, you just overwhelm them with so much random data that it becomes worthless.
It’s fucked when the unlimited option in this meme is less then I pay for internet now. I pay over 200 a month just for the fucking internet. Fuck Cox cable and shit choices I don’t have in my town.
Christ, I knew Australian ISP pricings were exy but that’s absurd.
I’m looking at going to a 500 / 250? (Might be 100 up) Plan for around 140 AUD per month, I’d much rather have symmetrical Gbit but that’s well put of my price range.
$200 USD is around $315 AUD currently, that’s a whole ballpark of fucked up.
Fuck that is expensive. £24/month here and I use 4G so I can take my router anywhere and it just works.
Crap, I’d have to get the everything package. Only due to not using any of those platforms but YouTube. Even that I could live without.
$99999 to access lemmy
I was talking to someone online who is in Ghana and this is how it is there.
Anyone else remember AOL Keywords? Lol
This will make Amazon a wee bit unhappy.
They’ll be fine being part of the “base package.”
If they pay for it. The ISP would hold both hands open to get money.
It’s already like this in many countries in Asia. They offer data pacakages that are 50GB (for example) for social media data , and only 1GB for regular internet
They offer data pacakages that are 50GB (for example) for social media data , and only 1GB for regular internet
In fairness, social media and streaming are absolute data hogs. I could get by very easily with 1GB for the old school message board internet of the early '00s.
Yes, but only the social media that paid to be included in the plan in the first place. That just continues monopolies.
my former ukrainian data plan had only 100mb per day on internet, but 10gb on Youtube and unlimited social media (e.g. facebook and reddit + messenger apps like viber, signal and telegram)
to be fair, its not the norm here and it was cheap af back when i was using it (around 1-2$/mo)
tbf i was using ssn spoofing to make it think all of the websites i was visiting were Youtube (that only worked for tcp traffic tho, not udp so no gaming)
Tor here I come! Haha
What’s the alternative to the corporate web? Tor? Usenet?
Worst case, could have regional intranets. Like people just connect their routers with eachother. Sneakernet over large media between disconnected regions.
But that’s me getting way ahead of myself.
If the full extent of this kind of internet existed, Tor would be completely irrelevant on it. Imagine that there essentially are no other sites than what’s approved by isps. It’s the cable model.
Not that such a wild vision of the internet has any chance of taking hold now days. The point of the thread was to make fun of the people who are complaining about lemmy providing too much choice.
They can’t stop people from hosting private servers or creating protocols for bypassing restrictions. And even if they did, things like SSH and remote desktop would be completely useless, but those are necessary for maintaining even the corporate web.
What about the snowflake proxies? Dont those go through microsoft?
I must be stupid for not realizing a whitelist ISP implementation, I always imagined it would be more like a blacklist.
I thought about it, but immediately dismissed it cause they would lose their entire user base. It would be far too complex to have whitelist based access, as soon as anyone realized how restrictive it is they would bail
It’s kind of interesting to think about it in practice because on one hand the number of ISPs is limited in many areas, taking away the competitive choice, but on the other hand the opportunity to pull this stunt has been around for years in places like the USA and nobody has succeeded so far.
Everything**
**Sites only we deemed brand safe for you to consume
Well of course.
2400€/m (gov clearance needed) for static IP address.
It’s a minimum of $20 to talk to girls
There are girls on instagram but idk how talkative they are.
Meta Instagram is full of fake AI users. It could really be 50% bots
Don’t act like there are actual girls on the internet.
This is already a real thing
Oh my god it really is. This looks specific to mobile data, thankfully. But I could see this being the foot in the door
I want precisely zero of those web sites and apps
Then I guess you need the $100 teir option
Can I pay to restrict someone elses access?
Lmao there are so many ppl on Lemmy who unironically think like this. Let culture grow wild and fuck the profits.
Maybe making everything for profit is part of the problem in this world. Do you think maybe that’s part of the problem?
You think that’s choice paralysis, I’ve got 5200 movies, 260 series on my Plex. It’s exhausting.
holy shit! how many terabytes is that?
Not too much, x265 has great compression. I bought 4x 20TB drives last summer and they’re RAID 10, so roughly 36TB of storage.
Why would you do that? You can just watch Star Wars recycle the same story over and over.
Here’s what all these complaints about federation choices reminds me of: every job I’ve ever had, new people get hired from time to time. What do they do? Long before they’ve had any time to get any training or learn how things work to maybe get a better understanding of why some things are done the way they are - day one, they start complaining about all kinds of little things, waxing fantastical about how they’d do things differently. Same energy.
Nothing is perfect, and maybe things can be improved in a number of ways as time goes on. But also everything has a learning curve, so maybe try learning that curve before making demands about getting rid of the core elements that make federation what they are.
I love the critique on “the Fediverse has bad UX”, I was so excited I got the reference before reading any comment. Also I agree with it.
They could theoretically implement this because of unencrypted domain names and ISP blocks, but if they actually tried this, that DNS over HTTPS thing Mozilla was working on - I’m sure it would get a lot more attention, be rolled out very soon, and disable ISPs being able to see or control which domains you were accessing.
Or they’d just use deep packet inspection like russia does for blocking websites
I’ve been using DNS over https for a year or so now, it’s the most traffic on my network.
They would just block anything that’s encrypted.
This is literally what happens when people defend first-past-the-post! “More than 2 viable choices at the ballot box is scary!” “I need my corporate politicians to protect me from using my brain”
I’m no fan of FPTP, but that point doesn’t apply here. Democrats have consistently supported Net Neutrality.
Net Neutrality was legislated by the Democratic majority in the FCC in 2015. It was then repealed by the Republicans in the FCC (championed by Pai and Carr) in 2018. It was then reinstated when the Democrats regained majority in 2024.
Can’t say I’ve ever seen anyone defend the system in play, just recognizing that it exists and until it’s changed in whatever means possible that playing the protest/spoiler is likely to make things worse.
To be fair I heard these talking points from republicans. The most brainwashed.
Wasn’t net neutrality already killed in the us?
The Biden FCC briefly brought it back but it was quickly killed by a Bush-appointed judge based on the conservative majority Supreme Court’s ruling on Loper Bright v. Raimondo which ended the practice of Chevron Deference.
Chevron Deference was a policy that allowed federal agencies to be the interpreters of ambiguous regulations, and in this particular case the uncertainty was whether or not the internet counted as a “utility” akin to electricity and water. The updated interpretation is that the FCC doesn’t have the right to treat the internet as a utility if it is not explicitly defined as a utility by law, so net neutrality was killed.
There is still hope that a later, more progressive Congress and administration could pass regulation declaring the internet to be a utility, or that a later court could change their minds on that interpretation, but for now it’s not looking good.
Could a VPN solve this nonsense?
Not if the only “allowed” services don’t include that VPN.
There are nearly always ways around this sort of thing, but it gets exponentially harder as soon as VPNs get blocked.
maxmalrichtig@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
I mean META is actually doing this! #aBoringDystopia
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TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
This is extremely worrying.