Submitted 2 months ago by splinter@hilariouschaos.com to fediverse@lemmy.world
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cross-posted from: hilariouschaos.com/post/1077711
Welp
This is amusing, but one guy from the crosspost raised a valid problem:
If the hexbear domain fully dies, then all the idiots kept in containment by defederation will start jumping ship to other instances, and start causing trouble for users and moderators.
all the idiots kept in containment by defederation will start jumping ship to other instances, and start causing trouble for users and moderators
Many of them already do that with alt accounts, which would explain the considerable number of downvotes here.
They followed me around and down voted everything I posted for a while (memes, conversational comments, everything). Oh and they also threatened to kill me. Fuck hexbear and all its users.
I have a more optimistic outlook. If they get spread out there’s a higher chance of them getting out of their echo chamber and becoming a normal person. And let’s be real, the worst of them will go into Lemmygrad to continue their circlejerk and thus won’t bother the wider fediverse. And the worst of them probably already have alts on other instances where they stir up shit.
Thanks for that. In this day and age, hearing something positive is a bliss, even it’s just deradicalizing hexers.
So the tankie idiots join the bigger pool of non-tankie idiots. How will we ever survive…
Could not happen to a nicer bunch.
Truly salt of the earth
What’s the story with this place?
The common clay of the fediverse.
No way, after all that posting hexbear is defeated by capitalism???
Nah. Socialists can charge for services.
It was defeated by an admin being so done with their shit he couldn’t be bothered lol
For FUCK’s sake, if literally everybody on Hexbear including all domain hits had voted for genocide the democrats would still lose
Get the fuck Over It™ and start organizing instead of lib’ing
They don’t care, mission was accomplished in November of last year.
They were established 4+ years ago just to cause the dnc to lose an election in 2024?
Yes, are you unaware of how Russian propaganda works?
They were established 4+ years ago just to cause the dnc to lose an election in 2024?
The DNC did not lose. We are the losers. You and me will feel the impact way more than well to do politicians.
Blaming capitalism for domain names being a nightmare is hilarious, they are insanely cheap its 12$ a year for a .com, that is all, lol.
Not rlly there is a biding ongoing on the offer the highest offer now is 700 $
They literally didnt pay their under 20$ a year fee for renewal, its their own fault for not having the domain be with the same person managing hosting, it’s like amateur stuff to at least have them be an authorized user.
They were in contact with the dude who owns it a few times, wouldve taken minutes to add them as authorized users
2347$ now
ugh its back
I bid seventy cents, two peanut shells, and a cancelled postage stamp.
Tired: Lenin’s on sale again
Wired: Hexbear is a shitcoin
It’s (un)amusing how the Fediverse of all things still depends on a system of identity that relies on forcing trust on a third party that can take that identity from you at any point and without recourse (within that system). Or, you know, you can “forget to drink your internet identity verification can for the commercial god”, which is just as (un)funny.
Digital trust is a really complicated thing. DNS sure beats most of the alternative I can think of.
What’s a hex bear?
Communists (internet troll-ish)
As opposed to Communists (just-- communists) from lemmy.ml and Communists (Spicy Communists) from lemmygrad.ml
None of them are communists, they’re Tankies, tankies = authoritarians
Hexbear, along with .ml and grad, are Tankie instances. Known as the Tankie Triad (well soon to be Tankie Dyad anyways lol)
An unhealthy Lemmy obsession.
Just block it and get on with your life.
A far-left Lemmy instance, one of the so-called “Tankie Triad” (along with lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml).
As with all instances of the Triad, Hexbear is commonly hated on other instances due to conflicts stemming from the difference of political perspectives with the majority of people on other instances.
They’re not “far-left” they’re authoritarian “communists” and by “difference of political perspectives” you mean denial of human rights abuses and suppression of freedom by authoritarian regimes (even denying they are authoritarian regimes) like China or even that Russia was totally justified attacking a country unprovoked.
Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical. It is commonly used by anti-authoritarian leftists, including anarchists, libertarian socialists, left communists, democratic socialists, and reformists to criticise Leninism, although the term has seen increasing use by liberal and right‐wing factions as well.
Pedobear with extra steps
That doesn’t really clear anything up, tbh, I don’t know what this is or why I care about their domain expiring this post did nothing to explain that
A bear made of hexagons
Well yea but what is it in this specific context? I have no idea what this is
A bear made of hexagons
So this is a man-in-the-middle attack waiting to happen isn’t it? Buy the domain, setup a reverse proxy that points to the original hexbear server IP and start logging all requests.
Probably. In all honestly, if you are a hexbear user, I’d be keeping a careful eye on who owns the domain when it magically pops back up.
And here I was complaining about cheeseburger.social going down. Our user count was well into the dozens. Dozens!
Isn’t hilarious chaos a Nazi instance?
No, it isn’t.
I need a reminder of what hexbear is about. I recall something… off.
Tankie instance
They’re part of the Tankie Triad (.ml, lemmygrad, hexbear). Quite possibly the worst of the triad
I’d vote grad as worst, but it’s certainly close.
Beyond just the general tankiness that others have mentioned, I think the worst thing about Hexbear is how they aggressively claim to be pro-LGBTQ+ while zealously supporting Russia and China, nations which actively persecute anyone who is not hetero-normative. Putin actively jokes about killing homosexuals, and the PRC will black-bag you and put you in a reeducation camp.
I’ve always felt there was something deeply sinister in this hypocrisy, probably having to do with intentionally targeting marginalized people and attempting to influence and/or radicalize them - your basic cult recruitment tactics.
So… who’s outbidding them? Someone from tankiejerk? Or are their being taken over by lemmygrad, to be introduced to Socialism with Dessaline characteristics?
Or are their being taken over by lemmygrad, to be introduced to Socialism with Dessaline characteristics?
What‽ LMAO grad, .ml are Tankie instances just the same and Dess is a huge Tankie lolol
Lemmygrad and tankies in general have military discipline while hexbear is a vibes-based mob. Authoritarians vs. virtue signallers, one taking over the other would mean popcorn for years.
Oh it couldn’t have happened to a better bunch! 😈
Perfect domain for a shitcoin.
lol
lol
Is there a way to know who bought it? Did they get it back or is it some rando or is it a known third party?
It is actively being auctioned, see the post body.
Ah… I did not understand the auction link. I thought “expired” meant that the auction ended. I guess it describes the status of the domain.
Thanks
The fuck is going on with this domain?
It has only three letters and its on the .com top-level domain. That’s it.
expatriado@lemmy.world 2 months ago
quite vocal about how the world should be organized, but forgot to pay the domain dues
m_f@discuss.online 2 months ago
DNS is neoliberalism incarnate 😂
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 months ago
I like how a whole community of academics and researchers worked out how to run a system which, even into the modern day which is kind of amazing, is largely disconnected from being abused by government and industry, and just runs according to what the people who need to use the system need it to do. You can get extorted for a fancy domain name if you really want to, but you can also go to Hostinger and get one for $5/year or something, because a lot of the core of the system is still pretty well-protected from being a cash-grab, through application of good governance and cooperation.
And then, somehow Hexbear managed to find their way around that system and fucked things up for themselves, and now it’s all DNS’s fault that they stepped in a pile of doo doo.
Yes, John Postel and David Mills were some of the vilest ghouls and so on. There was nothing about them that could provide a good model for how to do effective cooperation and succeed outside the systems of ownership that defined computing and telecommunications at the time, no particular reason they succeeded so dramatically and gave you, ultimately, this space to post pig balls today, and nothing about their work and traditions that needs to be defended against any silicon valley ghouls in the modern day. You fucking dingbat. I started out sticking up for you guys because no one deserves to get victimized by DNS scammers, but I take it back, go fuck yourselves.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 months ago
I mean… OK then just remember the IP addresses of the sites you use and don’t use the domain names?
dojan@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I mean unlike housing, you don’t actually need to pay for a domain name. There are plenty of free alternatives if you ill like paying for a TLD, and in lieu of that you could just memorise the IP.
GoodEye8@lemm.ee 2 months ago
If I didn’t know this was chapotraphouse I would consider it an excellent shitpost.
Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 months ago
What is with the weirdly shaped emojis.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Remember kids, this is why you still need money. This is literally how the Soviet Union collapsed and why China today became a state capitalist.
kitnaht@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I wonder if they tried to pay it with a signed note by their mother and a chuck-e-cheeze token with ‘payment in full’ scribbled across the note in red marker.
lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
In a good internet, you shouldn’t have to pay someone else for your own identity.
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 months ago
You don’t have to pay anything to have your own identity.
If you want someone else’s servers to replicate a piece of information for you, and you want them to take responsibility for administrative issues like figuring out whether you still want it next year or what to do if you’re doing something illegal, you may have to pay anywhere from $5 a year to $30 a year for the privilege depending on a couple of factors. Given how massively inflated the price of registering a domain could be, if the type of ghouls who like to get their hands on things like this were able to get their hands on it, I’m inclined to call that success. About 99% of internet users will never need to know or care about DNS, and they can still have their identity without having to pay $30 a year.
I’m pretty sure the price of domains has actually been going down over time, and they’ve introduced a bunch of new TLDs and new types of entries in the records in response to pretty much the only significant problems that the 40-year-old system has ever had during its history. Like I said, I’d call that success.
catloaf@lemm.ee 2 months ago
You don’t have to! You can run a DNS server out of your house and host any and all domain names you can think of!
Of course, nobody but you will use it, but it’s the principle of the thing, right?
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 months ago
Tell me you have no idea how DNS works without saying you have no idea how DNS works.