If the FCC can’t regulate anything I guess I’ll just run a high power jammer and block all cell signal in the area.
FCC’s Net Neutrality Rules Struck Down by Federal Appeals Court
Submitted 4 months ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/02/technology/net-neutrality-rules-fcc.html
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GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
westyvw@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Wait! You will get in trouble for that. Instead you need to have an LLC that does that for Profit somehow. Then all is forgiven!
horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It’s a privacy subscription service.
aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Bonus points if it involves an “app”.
Botzo@lemmy.world 4 months ago
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Ah but technically it’s still illegal to disrupt emergency services and also leaves you liable to lawsuits.
But yeah, the FCC in particular can’t stop you from doing that.
GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Ahh, but you can subscribe to my private emergency services on my own frequencies which aren’t blocked, then nobody can block mine because they are the only available emergency service frequency.
rumba@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Sure they will!
www.fcc.gov/enforcement/orders
They’d be more than happy to fine you 10k for that.
I’m not completely clear on what happens if you don’t pay though…
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Put hundreds of them in a pretty boxes, form an LLC, get a few VCs to sign on, flip the switch, then charge a monthly fee to “open previously-inacessible service areas to cellular customers” and you’ll have a successful startup!
rumba@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Hold on, GumpyDuckling… checks clipboard tsk tsk, I see here you’re not wealthy enough to effectively lobby to get us in trouble; I’m afraid that’ll be a $10,000 fine.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Their excuse is that telecom services aren’t actually providing telecom services, but information services.
If that doesn’t make sense to you, it’s because you aren’t brain-damaged.
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
So… They’re responsible for the misinformation sent to my device against my will now, right?
Obviously not because our leaders need to be killed brutally where all can see what happens, but in principle?
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
comes a time when blue states just need to draw the line and flat out refuse to follow federal laws and judges until federal judges stop being corrupt.
w3dd1e@lemm.ee 4 months ago
They do it for marijuana laws but won’t treat anything else like that. I don’t understand.
ubergeek@lemmy.today 4 months ago
Money.
Lots of potential tax revenue with cannabis.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
You say “secede” funny.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Ppppssshhhhhhh!!! That’s not gonna happen!
altima_neo@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
They would if they also didn’t rely so much on federal funding
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
most blue states send more than they receive; all they have to do is stop sending money back to the federal government and red states would go broke.
ubergeek@lemmy.today 4 months ago
NYS pays more in federal taxes than we get in Federal dollars.
I think we’ll be ok.
GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
They’re going to use this for censorship.
Botzo@lemmy.world 4 months ago
But they’ll call it freedom of speech. Speech someone/corp paid for of course, but Citizens United…
GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Corporations are just sovereign citizens.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 months ago
Ministry of truth and all that.
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Torproject.org. There’s absolutely no way to censor the entire internet, short of entirely disconnecting the internet.
pdxfed@lemmy.world 4 months ago
They’re trying to ban tiktok. I’ve never used it but it’s just because it’s Chinese, social media from any other company based in any other country is just as fucked and unhealthy and unregulated in the US, but they are going to ban it specifically for its country of origin. China pills a lot of weight and the company tiktok is powerful and fighting it in court and all but it seems pretty obvious it’ll go through even under current admin watch–letbaloke when a direct competitor and owner of Xitter owns the White House.
While yes, you’re logistically correct it would be very difficult to shut down the whole Internet, that’s not the goal, the goal is to massively control it and enshittify it beyond your worst dreams.
Look to China and Russia for "internet"TM
FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 4 months ago
long-winded sigh
I really ought to set up that community meshnet I keep thinking about setting up…
cm0002@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I really ought to set up that community meshnet I keep thinking about setting up…
Oh hey, I keep thinking about doing this to and hosting a website like the old days lol, but when I search about it the biggest thing that comes up is like LoRa, but ig it’s too slow for hosting internet-like services
jimerson@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Meshtastic is 80% geeky fun hobby, 20% preparedness, and 0% ready to facilitate anything more than simple text messages. Still neat, though.
CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 4 months ago
You want Meshtastic
FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’ve already got some gear and there are a few other nodes around, but basically all it is currently is an emergency backup for texting family members if the Internet and cell service go down. I’d like to start making some cooler stuff like maybe a weather/sensor station and maybe even some online stuff, but I’ve got so many half-done projects I’m hesitant to start another one lol.
db2@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Is this really shocking with the incoming sadministration?
That’s not a typo.
Bassman1805@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Comment section tries not to blame Biden for actions taken by the judicial branch, with judges appointed by Bush and Trump. Difficulty: Impossible.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 months ago
In its opinion, a three-judge panel pointed to a Supreme Court decision in June, known as Loper Bright, that overturned a 1984 legal precedent that gave deference to government agencies on regulations.
“Applying Loper Bright means we can end the F.C.C.’s vacillations,” the court ruled.
“Nyyeaahh nyyeaah nyyeaaaahh ppffthhhhthhth!!” they said.
minorkeys@lemmy.world 4 months ago
So now all regulatory policy has to through the fucking gauntlet of legislative process where the wealthy will just veto everything that doesn’t benefit them…this nation is captured beyond belief.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 months ago
If only we could have helped it somehow
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Like most large changes, it requires an act of Congress. Doing these via the executive leads to weak outcomes like this.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The thing is Congress doesn’t have time to deal with technical details. That’s why they passed a law authorizing the FCC to make exactly this kind of regulation. The conservative courts throwing everything they don’t like under the Major Questions Doctrine is just a way to make sure regulation never happens and Corporations are free to exploit people however they want. The problem here isn’t the FCC, it’s bad faith judges with the power to stop the entire government.
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Regulating ISPs as a utility is a pretty big change, not simply a technical detail; it is in the purview of Congress.
Congressmen aren’t individually drafting bills, they direct their aids to draft the bills and hammer out the small details. We don’t need to overhaul our system, we need congressmen to do their job rather than offloading their job to the Executive.
MyOpinion@lemm.ee 4 months ago
This is ridiculous how difficult it is to get this law through. Clearly it must be something good. I am 100% behind it.
solsangraal@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
tbf it’s not hard to convince hayseed chucklefuck trumplings that regulations which exist to protect them are a bad thing because they cost money. we had condo buildings collapsing and people dying WITH regulations.
when bridges start collapsing left and right, they’ll blame drag queens and the maga trumpistan patriots will lap it up like hogs at the trough
MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
we had condo buildings collapsing and people dying WITH regulations.
Further proof that regulations don’t work! The Invisible
Sky DaddyHand shalt self-correct! All is right with the world! Praise be unto The Market, may its blessed Line forever Go Up.Now, let us prey.
spookedintownsville@lemmy.world 4 months ago
This is really just a game of tech billionaires vs telecom/media billionaries
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 4 months ago
2025 is off to a good start.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 months ago
…is it?
MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
Dumpster fire speedrun any%
cm0002@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Does anyone know where President Muskrat stands on NN? Maybe there might be some silver lining there in that whole shit show :(
lath@lemmy.world 4 months ago
His internet, the only internet. Worldwide.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
He has never been pro-net neutrality.
He is willing to throttle traffic that he doesn’t like, which is explicitly anti-net-neutrality.
Wahots@pawb.social 4 months ago
I was surprised that it wasn’t the fifth circuit, then my shock faded: the sixth administers Ohio, Kentucky and Tennessee, as well as Michigan.
Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
The very first thing I checked for is which circuit it was, too, haha…
Of course the Loper Bright decision is going to be used to prevent federal agencies with helping improving anything. Judges be like “You can’t rein in this corporate abuse because there’s an app for it, bro. Totally different!”
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
archive.ph/…/net-neutrality-rules-fcc.html
Link that isn’t behind a damn paywall.
cm0002@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Lol I edited the post just after posting to add in a paywall bypass link already, your instance might be having a federation delay
takeda@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Is at least the California’s net neutrality law in effect?
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
For Californians, yes
I expect that the 2030 census is going to have us growing again
notannpc@lemmy.world 4 months ago
God our government is so fucking useless for anything that might actually help people.
Juigi@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Corrupt beyond belief.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
It’s by design: the rich know how easily “representatives” can be bought.
PhAzE@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
It’s currently not fill with people who want to help “prople”. It currently is setup to help corporate America only at this point. At the expense of your rights.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
You know, in Germany there are some (we call them Reichsbürger ~ Empire Citizens) that believe the allied installed a puppet government in Germany and we are actually a GmbH (equivalent to US LLCs according to Wikipedia) called the Bundesrepublik Deutschland GmbH and a kind of proof should be that are ID cards are called “Personalausweis” which could be taken as Personal (eng. Employee) and Ausweis (eng. Identification).
The US basically does all of the Corpo things those conspiracy nuts see into the German government.
From the BS corp politics down to the office rumors.
VoidBorn@lemmings.world 4 months ago
I believe we call them Corporate-Americans these days, they’re legally people.
btaf45@lemmy.world 4 months ago
More specifically: gop.gov
swankypantsu@lemmy.today 4 months ago
Obama installed Apeshit Pie. They’re all to blame.
nialv7@lemmy.world 4 months ago
this is direct consequence of the Supreme Court overturning the Chevron deference back in June. the appeals court has to apply the law. so you know who to blame.
expect more cases like this in coming years…
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Sarcastically speaking, if they want white only public bathrooms, that would be interesting. On the one hand people gave up their lives for us to have the freedom to go in the same places as white people. On the other hand… Its public restrooms!
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 months ago
One could go for a hundred years and not touch this shit. But nah. Some dirtbag judge asshole actively working to fuck us all over.
Snapz@lemmy.world 4 months ago
This isn’t “our government” these are the oligarch’s meatbags purchased for surprisingly low dollar amounts. These men (and women that silently stand next to them until they are told they are allowed to speak) are cowards and traitors. They are not “our government”
floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
That’s because they’re not even trying to help people, except people who can pay.