Shoutout to our hard-working maintainers, first of all.
Wanted to open a space for the community to discuss this aspect of marketing/identity.
If people can’t handle the word shit, they probably shouldn’t be looking at shit on Lemmy. Lmao
Feedback about our name: someone's concerns on sharing
Submitted 3 weeks ago by brbposting@sh.itjust.works to main@sh.itjust.works
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jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The commenter themselves used big f potty word 😱
Must have goody two-shoes friends
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Harumph of agreement!
InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I Iike both slrpnk and blahaj but it’s not like their domain names are magically not also part of this alphabet soup they’re talking about.
It’s… kinda the point of federation and decentralization.
Sure, Reddit or Facebook have brand recognition, they’re also centralized corpo garbage.If a blahaj user wants to share a SJW post, but finds the sjw domain untasteful, they can also just share their instance’s URL for to said post.
FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz 3 weeks ago
Amazingly few users seem to realize this can be done.
Nothing4You@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
I think most (especially mobile) clients simply don’t have this option and will always copy/share the “fedi link” - the url where the content is canonically hosted. all other URLs are simply cached representations of the original content.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I started on lemmy.ml because I thought it was “the default one” to some extent. Learned that was a mistake pretty fast. Glad I found this one.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I think the same thing is why lemmy.world is as big as it is. “Well that must be the default one, it says lemmy and it’s for the whole world.”
newproph@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
lol I hadn’t seen the acronymized instance name. was the fact that it’s sjw intentional?
Klaymore@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I was there all those years ago…
The owner had the domain itjust.works, and was in some large thread asking what subdomain they should use, and some genius said “sh”.
InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
We’re all someone’s SJW.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
This comment would be more relevant a year down the line if perspectives shifted and users begged for sanitization, but:
Is it technically challenging or financially costly or otherwise problematic to mirror content to another subdomain, or domain mask or something? I thought of this after seeing oldsh.itjust.works:
try.itjust.works leg.itjust.works share.itjust.works subm.itjust.works
(2 & 4 don’t work as well as the current split word)
No reply requested unless it seems like it would be fun/interesting to type one
InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I’m not an expert on the specific of this, but changing the domain for the UI (as in oldsh.itjust.works) seems a lot easier than changing the domain for the backend, which includes federation with all other instances.
I don’t know of any way to change the federated stuff without breaking pretty much everything and starting over.
Maybe there is and I just don’t know about it, or maybe there could be an easier way at some point.
humancrayon@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
As someone who works with a marketing department for a living, please don’t ruin this with marketing.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I’m sympathetic… I’m not sure I’d be willing to share a sh.itjust.works link to my company #general slack channel.
Though that is far from the biggest problem Lemmy has for adoption. Many communities are simply flooded with 15yr old tankies.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I wouldn’t share a reddit link in that scenario either, but it’s a decent point.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Jeez. It’s just a link to just a site. What is the problem with that url? If it’s share-worthy, just share. If people don’t click it because of “bUt iTs nOt a .CoM!” screw them, bad luck for them. People need to study and pay a lot to be allowed to drive a car, but any technically challenged dildo can use the interwebz without the slightest clue about anything, and is also allowed to voice an opinion about it.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
When you grow up you’ll realize that sometimes you need to consider the attitudes and feelings of others rather than just “fuck 'em”.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Pretty sure they meant because of the word shit, not the TLD works.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Usually I’ll be sharing either screenshots or just straight ripping the meme to send directly. But I also don’t generally communicate with work colleagues outside of work
bitwolf@lemmy.one 2 weeks ago
sh.itjust.works is my fav instance domain name too 😅
Blaze@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Hello,
I see you are on lemmy.one, do you know that your instance admin seems to have been missing for the last few months?
Shizrak@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Literally joined because of the name
spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Firmly agree. It sounds both a) fun, and b) wildly reliable. The two things I needed back when I was a Lemmy newb
Burghler@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
What’s the polite way to call someone a lil bitch. Genuinely curious because I wanna be PC but also an asshole. Anyway the creature in the post is a lil bitch ass
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
What’s the polite way to call someone a lil bitch. Genuinely curious because I wanna be PC but also an asshole. Anyway the creature in the post is a lil bitch ass
I believe that the most socially acceptable way would be (and remember that it’s an example, and not directed at you):
“fuck you, and your lil bitch ass attitude. You don’t know your father because he never even liked you, your mother blows strangers for bags of gummy bears and validation, and your ears look weird”
Crashumbc@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Note this is talking about regular gummy bears, not even edibles…
Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I’ve always been partial to “pissbaby”
verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
“diaper baby” is my favorite, you can borrow it
jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Little fuckin ass bitch?
I hope I nailed it 🙏
verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
This is sh.itjust.works, not fragile.nitpicker.justworks AWOO AWOO AWOO
Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
How dare they mess with Sh, It Just Works.
horse_tranquilizers@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Sh, It Just Works ™️
freeman@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Probably a fan if those fancy newfangled bash or fish shells.
pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
I am partial to pdksh, mainly because when I read it I hear a drummer going “ba-dum-tschh” like at the end of a joke, which is how I see most of my sed invokations.
threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Fish shells? I only know bash and sh…
IncongruousMonkey@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Fuck them. Variety of thought is why I’m here. The tankies suck, but I think of them as a palate cleanser after the right wing crap in mainstream media.
Korrok@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I might be too autistic to care about the prejudices other people might have about the urls
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
While I agree less common domains are usually red flags, I love that the Fediverse has largely embraced them due to the hobbiest nature of the Fediverse. We need more acceptable TLDs because there’s only so many .com .net and .org domains to go around
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 3 weeks ago
It is an an immune system against the normies.
I am dead serious. I think it’s a good idea. It won’t last forever before they think it’s cool and start adopting it, but it’ll work for a while.
CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Normie filter, based in Canada, less tankies, fun name. I mean those are strong selling points.
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Chose the instance because of it being the first one that I found that wasn’t overwhelmed by new sign-ups of refugees from the sub place. Stay because of the name.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It’s stayed true!
CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
“I can’t link this, it doesn’t fit within my corporate values!”
Yeah that’s why I’m here. The name makes this place much more difficult for corpo scum to infest it.
Comment105@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
And that’s why most of us know to expect this to stay another largely pointless, niche project with little broad impact.
We’re not hitting 100k MAU, we’re not improving the internet, we’re not dethroning reddit. We’re just existing alongside them, in their shadow, with a slow front page of largely mid nonsense that sticks around for a couple days, with several communities’ comments mostly coming from 1-5 “power”-users.
And people want it to stay that way.
CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
What does getting bigger actually accomplish? I’ve been through enough Eternal Summers to know it sucks to lose a place you like to the swarm of terminally online bootlickers who infest every place that actually has people they can rule over. I’m good
InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Oh there’s plenty of corpo spam accounts being made, even here.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
need an instance named titfuck.gore. no one wants to cite that as a source.
DreadPirateShawn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
“sh! it just works!”
ciapatri@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Shhhh… It just. works.
I chose it as a smaller, stable instance based in Canada that had a catchy name.
vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
As a shitter on the shitter I vote the name stays.
I’ll take that to Matrix and my grave. 🤣
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Isnt that the point? Dont like it, use another instance. The point of federation is that you can choose the website you use without choosing the group of people you interact with. Thats why it should be more common. I dont want to lose contact with people because they wanna use messenger or snapchat. I have to use both on a daily basis and i hate it.
Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Yeah you can choose the instance your profile is on or where your browsing but you can’t choose what instance a post was made on. If I see a meme on lemmy and want to share it with a friend who doesn’t know about lemmy depending on how I get the link it could either be for the cached version on my instance or the “actual” link on the instance where it was posted. It seems the default behavior on the web ui for the share button is to do the cached version but depending what client you use this can be different.
It makes adoption harder if when people actually do try to spread posts the person on the other end is afraid to click it.
TORFdot0@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The whole point of federation is that content is coming from all sorts of different sources all with different levels of trust.
The default sharing behavior should be the cached version of a post, because the instance you’re on should be trusted to defederated from harmful instances and so that trust should carry over to those you interact with.
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 3 weeks ago
You should pick an instance you’d be happy for your friends to see in the links you share them, and send them your local links instead of the poster’s instance link.
tumblechinchilla@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
As a new person to lemmy and the fediverse concept as a whole, when I was looking for an instance to join it was the unique URL that drew me here. And the fact it’s run by a fellow wargoose. I can see why people would dislike the URL though. So far I like it here and hope it doesn’t change.
Blaze@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Welcome here!
ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
“oh no, swear words! can’t share this now!”
this sounds like a personal problem, sorry Ned Flanders!
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
NicolaHaskell@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The anti-gtld propaganda is spicy hot lately, anything non-.com is a keyboard rage trigger.
grandkaiser@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A lot of people have uneducated opinions on gtlds, but as a professional DNS engineer: fuck gtlds. They’re literally corporate cash grabs that make my life much, much harder and actively make the Internet worse.
NicolaHaskell@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Thanks for proving my point lol how do gtlds make your work much, much harder??
actively worse
😂😂😂
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Eh, I chose this instance because it was one of the top 5 or so, not because of the name. I would probably hesitate to share a link from this instance, but honestly, I don’t do that anyway, I generally just share links to actual articles linked here.
So for me, it’s really a non-issue. I have much larger concerns about how Lemmy works in general than naming of any one site, such as the one mentioned in the OP (no indication from domain name that it’s a Lemmy instance, one instance lagging on updates can break when viewed from other instances, etc). So to me, it’s going to stay niche because the user experience kind of sucks.
L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
The internet is serious business.
AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
You can link from almost any other instance. This is a skill issue.
FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Hmm, I like it here.
nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
I’m so used to tech and Linux stuff that I first thought that it was a special interest instance for shell scripting and TUIs. Now, it’s a toss up between “shit just works” and “sh! It just works”.
sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
That’s partly why I’m here. I don’t want a big place where every normie shows up, and it just becomes facebook. Does this specific sever want to become a mega-platform?
threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I’d love it if the fediverse as a whole grew to that size. Any individual instance? No. That’s kind of the whole point of the fediverse.
nyahlathotep@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I won’t go so far as to use the word “normie” like this is 4chan, but I will say: I think it’s fine. I’d rather have slow growth, thanks. I’m not the arbiter of what kind of users we should attract or anything, but if they have a problem with our silly name I don’t want to hang out with them.
Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
chose the instance because of the name, stuck for the uptime, reliability and admins
Marafon@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Same here. If people don’t like it, fuckem 🤷♂️. I’ll find it all the funnier because of it.
Alteon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, but at the end of the day we either want Lemmy to grow, or we don’t. And if we make it difficult or awkward for people to use Lemmy, then we’re shooting ourselves in the foot if our goal is to grow Lemmy’s user base.
gigachad@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
The name says it all!
actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Same, came here to say this.