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Friendly reminder that Tidal costs the same, has a bigger catalog, does not pester you with podcasts, has lossless quality audio and it includes lyrics
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Submitted 6 months ago by MasterPain@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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ominouslemon@lemm.ee 6 months ago
dustyData@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Is there a Tidal linux player? Or a Tidal for Roku? Those are the two things I couldn’t find that made me choose Spotify.
ominouslemon@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Re: tidal on Linux, if you use Arch there are a couple of options in the AUR. I don’t know about other distros.
linux as a non supported web browser
I’m confused about this one, lol. I did not know that Linux is a browser
ech@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Friendly reminder that Bandcamp puts money directly in the pockets of artists, and on the first Friday of every month (which for May is today), they waive their fees and 100% goes to the artist.
ShunkW@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Bandcamp has been great but I fear the enshittification coming. Half the staff was fired by Epic Games last year and then it was sold to a music conglomerate.
moonburster@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Small sidenote, tidal lossless is double the price
ominouslemon@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Nope. They have changed that. Lossless is now part of the basic plan
Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
They have a bigger catalog? I kinda assumed that Spotify had the biggest catalog by far because they’re the most popular one.
t0fr@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
YouTube Music has the biggest music catalogue since you can mix and match official and unofficial releases in your playlists.
kozy138@lemm.ee 6 months ago
For now… Do you really think they’re immune to enshitification if they become more popular?
ominouslemon@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I’ll bash them if and when they’ll start to do shitty stuff. Until then they are great
stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
It is just a shame that none of the alternative services have a solution for Spotify connect or I would have moved long ago.
FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Shit services like Spotify is a reminder to vote with you wallet and do your research. It’s ok to switch up your subs.
Being a subscriber since day 1 does nothing for the consumer.
exanime@lemmy.today 6 months ago
I wish the “vote with your wallet” were real… It’s as effective a “recycle your plastics”
It’s only effective in deflecting responsibility to a party that is truly powerless to address the issues
rbits@lemm.ee 6 months ago
The app also doesn’t let you add your own music, though… Very annoying, cause some songs aren’t on streaming services
mindlight@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Cool. Where can I read up on the catalog of Tidal?
magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 6 months ago
Spotify also includes lyrics. It’s just not in free tier anymore.
moon@lemmy.cafe 6 months ago
If you actually looked at the article this post is about, it says that it’s still there just with a monthly limit.
Lightborne@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Can I upload my own music like I could with Google music?
deweydecibel@lemmy.world 6 months ago
No, Tidal never had that. Deezer might still allow it, they’re the last I know that did.
Technically you can still do it with iTunes, but I don’t think those files will play on the Apple Music app.
metasaval@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
YouTube Music allows you to do this fyi
datavoid@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
I’ve spent the last 3 days deleting old google play music uploads from YouTube music, one song at a time. Would not recommend uploading anything to their interface even if it is possible.
nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
*Has bigger catalog if you were fans of mostly Western and European music.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Too bad (for me) it doesnt have most of my library.
Socsa@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Isn’t Tidal owned by Kanye West though?
e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
According to Wikipedia he left in 2017. Majority owner is a Jack Dorsey company called Block, Inc.
Meltrax@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I believe someone debunked the claim of lossless audio. But otherwise I think that’s all accurate.
ominouslemon@lemm.ee 6 months ago
What has been debunked was the whole story regarding MQA audio, which now they have abandoned. Now it is truly lossless
njordomir@lemmy.world 6 months ago
And the Tidal app has an amoled dark mode, which I don’t think Spotify has. Sometimes the little quality of life things make a big difference.
havokdj@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Tidal does not always have lossless quality audio, I personally recommend deezer
user224@lemmy.sdf.org 6 months ago
I did also get some suspicious audio from Deezer. It depends on what the publisher provides.
Tidal also goes above CD quality, if you’re into that. Some songs go up to 192kHz at 24 bits.
AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Also works with Rekordbox
lud@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Really who cares? The free tier is shit and has always been shit. That’s the point of the free tier, to get you to pay.
Previously they didn’t even have a free tier, now they do and it’s free. Of course not every feature exists and especially not a feature like lyrics which isn’t essential and Spotify has to pay extra for.
xenoclast@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The backlash is generally against all enshitification.
You get a useful free plan. Make it useless over time to convince people to pay for a plan. Make THAT plan useless over time to make people pay for the more expensive plan… repeat until capitalism ends.
That’s why people care.
platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeha, but they can make their free tier as shitty as they want, it is their product…
If you don’t want to pay, just use one of the thousands tools to pirate music. If you don’t want to pay but still think you deserve a product with all the features you like, then you’re delusional.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
The backlash is generally against all enshitification.
Or, as we call it, the principle of the thing.
If people are thinking “I don’t care, I got mine”, they need to learn why that elitism is wrong.
drmoose@lemmy.world 6 months ago
but it’s a free plan and if you can’t afford 5-15$/mo for unlimited music and can afford to spend time complaining about this then you have some much bigger problems in your life.
lud@lemm.ee 6 months ago
It’s free 🤷
Also the free tier was worse when it launched.
deweydecibel@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Why are they even charging you for lyrics to begin with? It’s not like they write them. It costs nothing to give you that feature for free.
Kind of like the YouTube app requiring a subscription for background playing. It’s a basic function that does not cost them anything, yet they break it to sell it back to you.
Stripping extremely basic features away and locking them behind paywalls is shitty and should be called out as such, full stop.
lud@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Because they need to pay their supplier of synced (and non-synced) lyrics, Musixmatch.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
It costs nothing
I highly doubt that. Lyrics are copyrighted like anything else, so record labels are going to charge for it.
like the YouTube app requiring a subscription for background playing
That’s an artificial limitation, as evidenced by NewPipe, Grayjay, and multiple others offering the same exact thing without a premium tier.
whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
When did they not have a free tier? I remember the free version being around at least 10 years ago.
lud@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I searched and I may have misremembered the free version seems to have been around since the start except that the free version was initially invite and desktop only. Eventually everyone could use it but still only on desktop. The free version was even more limited back then it seems with a limit on how many hours you could listen to each month.
I could personally never use it. Because it was so incredibly limited. Not being allowed to skip tracks makes it unusable and I’m genuinely surprised anyone used it apart from trying the service.
NaoPb@eviltoast.org 6 months ago
I do remember the free tier being introduced at some point. But it was a really long time ago. Probably 10+ years. I was still on XP back then.
fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 6 months ago
And enshittification continues…
HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Honestly, what does this change? For paid users nothing, and the free version was always unusable with you not being able to individually select songs.
ObsidianZed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Ensharttification?
Not compete shit but enough to warrant concern.
sparr@lemmy.world 6 months ago
As a long time Pandora user… I never want to select individual songs. I want stations, vibes, playlists, etc.
moon@lemmy.cafe 6 months ago
How? This doesn’t affect the subscription nor the price.
Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
If you search xmanager on github you will make a Spotify shareholder cry so please please don’t.
xlash123@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I’m not really getting what this does… Is it a patcher?
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Spotify modified to not have ads
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Yeah I’ve gotta say they have one awful website/github page. “Lets say nothing about what we do other than magically ad free music appears and hope people want to install this on their device!”
coolfission@lemm.ee 6 months ago
For iOS, there’s spotc++ but you’d need to know how to sideload
cmrn@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I thought this meant on top of Premium and I was about to be pissed.
But honestly, Spotify is one of the only companies where I don’t feel like my experience has gotten noticeably worse over my time using it.
0ops@lemm.ee 6 months ago
In general, I feel like the music streaming market is in much better shape than TV streaming. Price increases have been modest, there’s no fighting for exclusive streaming rights (that I’m aware of). I pirate all of my movies and shows, but Spotify’s alright, for me it’s worth paying. And even if it turned to shit tomorrow, Tidal and Apple music are pretty good too.
woodenskewer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
My experience got noticably worse that time they tried to make their UI look like tictok. I cancelled and deleted my account and have been on tidal ever since.
njordomir@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I switched from Spotify when they cut my family off of my plan because some of them don’t always live with me. I like Tidal a lot, but wish it was easier for me to share a song with friends who don’t use it. Ironically, I don’t think any family members but my dad actually use my Tidal plan, so basically I just switched out of spite.
deweydecibel@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Always people that come along and say this.
To them I say: imagine if you had a calculator app that you only ever used for basic addition. Then the calculator app removed the subtraction, multiplication, and division functions. It may would not seem like a big deal to you, but that doesn’t mean the app hasn’t gotten less useful.
HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s true that they shouldn’t be baiting in with an unsustainable free version, but this is essentially paywalling the subtraction function not removing it
jae@reddthat.com 6 months ago
I don’t bother with streaming services anymore. I set up Navidrome on my home server for my music library and love it.
Also, I may be in the minority here, but I decided to start paying artists directly for their music. Whether it be buying a CD at a show or buying off of Bandcamp. I didn’t want most of my money going to Apple/Spotify, I want my favorite artists to at least get something for their hard work …
Yes, it’s more expensive if you expect to have the entire Spotify catalog at a moment’s notice, but I may be old fashioned in that I like listening to albums front to back, and tend to listen to a single album on loop for a long time. After I’ve worn out that album, then I’ll move onto another one. Buying about an album a month has worked out for me, which is about the cost of these subscription services (I know I’m definitely in the minority here in the way I listen to my library, but figured I’d share anyway).
SecretSauces@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Then how do you learn about new music?
I thought about (and still want to) keep a self-hosted music library, but one of the things i look forward to is the New Music playlist that updates every Friday on YTM. I’ve found so many good songs and artists that way.
shym3q@programming.dev 6 months ago
Music scrobbling solves that issue for me. Navidrome integrates well with for example last.fm. Despite having my music listening history there one can find recommendations based on their music taste
HouseOfJazz@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Just use YouTube for new music and try it out there. Then download what you really want.
jae@reddthat.com 6 months ago
I scrobble my listens using Last.fm and ListenBrainz, which has given me some decent recommendations. It’s worked well enough for me. Maybe I’m “missing out” on more recommendations by not being on Spotify or other streaming service, but I still manage to find so much to listen to organically anyway. Also like @HouseOfJazz@lemmy.world, YouTube recommendations work too.
Brickardo@feddit.nl 6 months ago
It’s even funnier because the lyrics are provided by MusixMatch
Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I don’t know why anyone pays for Spotify anymore when there are others that are less and are lossless and include shit they are now taking away.
Gordito@lemmy.world 6 months ago
My biggest problem is the censure. I’m in my car, “hey google play teenage dirt bag on spotify”. Sounds great until the “her boyfriends a dick he brings a [silence]. And he’d simply kick my ass…”
Or Jay-Z story of OJ : “rich jigga, poor jigga, house jigga, field jigga”
What? Seriously loses all context and meaning.
Spotify redefining the message of whatever was happening…
That’s why I collect vinyl. Can’t change that shit up one my listening. If Jay Z wanted to use the N word the I want to hear it like it is. Not some bullshit jigga shit wtf is that? Isn’t it denying his message?
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Spotify promotes and forces you to use DRM. Even if you pay, the content is not ours and you are forces to use malware
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 6 months ago
I’m still holding onto Bandcamp and hoping they don’t enshittify. It’s even Bandcamp Friday today where they give their share to the musicians.
I like it because I build a library of music I keep, so some months I don’t pay anything at all. But depending on what you listen to it might not be the best. I still like it more than renting music.
deweydecibel@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I tried Apple Music recently, and while I wasn’t impressed by the platform, one thing I was legitimately taken back by was how much effort they put into the lyrics. The little animations as the lyrics follow the song, where the words move in different ways based on the song in question, it’s really aesthetically pleasing.
It wasn’t enough to keep me paying for it but I genuinely enjoyed it quite a bit.
guyrocket@kbin.social 6 months ago
The shitshow will only get worse. Own your music instead!
WhatIsThePointAnyway@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Paying for premium gives a lot more money to artists. Most artists besides the mega stars really need it.
luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Install the Musixmatch app, get the lyrics for free from the original service instead of Spotify’s embedded player.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
do we need an Enshittification@lemmy.world group to crosspost to?
chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 6 months ago
And the enshittification of everything continues…
tjsauce@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Go with YouTube music. If you can’t find what you want, upload it yourself to YouTube under the Music category. I’ve done this with my own music, and preservations of music I love. I can’t think of another service that allows this.
venusaur@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It didn’t originally have lyrics so free users are not really losing anything.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
For a moment I thought they’re doing this on the paid tier. Who am I kidding, it’s probably just a matter of time till they pull this number.
drmoose@lemmy.world 6 months ago
People being so cheap and refusing to pay 5-15$/mo for unlimited music streaming. What a weird reality we’re living in 🙄
gccalvin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Deezer (paid for flac - lossless files) + Deemix-gui + Jellyfin + Symfonium works quite well. Though you need to have a media server, so not exactly a drop-in replacement.
Centaur@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Laughs in Deezer
suction@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Just listen to classical music. Problem solved.
Legend@lemmy.sdf.org 6 months ago
cough get third party spotify app from fdroid cough
magnolia_mayhem@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Piracy is coming back, and this time the tech has matured.
nutsack@lemmy.world 6 months ago
looks like shit
kworpy@lemm.ee 6 months ago
good
Snapz@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Enshittification
yournamehere@lemm.ee 6 months ago
en
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laxe@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Enpoopification
ech@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Congrats on actually using the word appropriately.