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Submitted 8 months ago by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 8 months ago
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Is you regional settings set to a European country?
(by the way, life pro tip, setting your region to a European country solves a ton of issues people have with Windows, most complaints I see I never had a problem with even though I live in Canada, my settings are set to UK)
bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Interesting that setting your location to the UK gets you EU protections. Do the EU protections apply in the UK? They Brexited didn’t they?
MamboGator@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Are there any downsides to setting your region to some place other than where you actually are?
Kalysta@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This is the life hack I never knew i needed. Thanks!!
Vendul@feddit.de 8 months ago
You could always uninstall with the Revo Uninstaller
lunachocken@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Check out Chris titisi’s script. Can do quite a bit and uninstall edge.
It can be ran as a single command without any manual download.
tabular@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Microsoft now permits
The benevolence! Letting people do what they want with their purchased software. wow!
conquer4@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You don’t buy the software. You buy a license to use their software.
asparagapple@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah and with Apple, it feels like we buy a license to use their hardware.
deweydecibel@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Right, and the consumer protections and ownership rights for that licence are grossly insufficient compared to what you would get if you bought a physical object.
We’ve allowed ridiculous compliance requirements and forced updates to become normalized when we never should have, and we’ve accepted the undermining of user authority because we refused to fight for it.
AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
I have no idea why you’re being downvoted because you’re right. You don’t really own hardly any of the software you buy. You don’t buy the software, you buy a license to use it in almost all commercial cases. It would be financial suicide for companies to revoke those licenses in most cases, but it still is what it is.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 months ago
A license subject to the law. Which can easily say that “license” is no different from a physical object you buy.
PilferJynx@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s what it’s become. But, hear me out, what if I want the hardware without the software? Tough luck? Both are so tied together that if the company pulls the rug you don’t have reasonable access to the hardware.
TheDrunkard@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I see hive mind stupidity is alive and well as your completely factual statement is downvoted by absolute morons.
eighthourlunch@kbin.social 8 months ago
This ought to happen everywhere. Either I'm the admin on my machine or I'm not. If it's not, I'm not sure how much longer I'll tolerate a Windows machine.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
PSA: Once this rolls out into the actual downloadable Windows builds, everyone should be able to do this by reinstalling Windows.
###European Economic Area PCs
As noted above, some functionality is only available in the EEA. Windows uses the region chosen by the customer during device setup to identify if the PC is in the EEA. Once chosen in device setup, the region used for DMA compliance can only be changed by resetting the PC.
DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm…
Can we get THIS fucking comment on the front page please? Outstanding work, friend! Sincere thanks!
deweydecibel@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’d worry about how that might effect other things. Windows isn’t the only thing that changes it’s behavior based on region.
octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
You haven’t been the sole admin on a Windows machine in a long time, friend.
refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
If you care about stuff like being the sole admin of your machine, IDK whg you’re using Windows.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 8 months ago
Ypu can be the admin of your machine, but I bet you know what that would mean :)
helenslunch@feddit.nl 8 months ago
I will tolerate it for -1.5 years.
watcher@nopeeking.link 8 months ago
But I thought this was a crucial part of the operating system?!
MP3Martin@programming.dev 8 months ago
The Internet Explorer system stuff is still there, the difference is that if it launches in a new window with a website, it automatically opens Edge instead of IE. (iirc)
lud@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Yeah, internet explorer is integrated deeply in places you wouldn’t expect.
OfficerBribe@lemm.ee 8 months ago
It is, specifically MS Edge WebView. For example new MS Teams and new Outlook client are using WebView.
This uninstall will most likely still keep Edge present, it will just be somehow hidden / not as easily accessible.
le_saucisson_masquay@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
So where are the people saying edge couldn’t be uninstalled because it’s a core part of the system that other element depended upon. I swear I have seen this answer on every reddit post about uninstalling edge, yet Microsoft show its absolutely possible (although only in Europe, because dependencies don’t work the same in Europe 😂).
root@precious.net 8 months ago
That’s what they said about Internet Explorer right up until the moment where Microsoft wanted everyone to switch to Edge. Not only could you suddenly uninstall it, but it even started uninstalling itself!
Funny how that happens
pastermil@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Wasn’t it actually a core component until they phase it out in Win7 or Win8? AFAIK (at least on WinXP) the entirety of GUI is rendered from the IE.
mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Protip: Microsoft uses social media manipulation to shape public opinion. Some of those people claiming that were on a payroll.
QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m sure it’s just uninstalling the browser chrome. The backend is woven into too many MS products to be completely removed.
nutt_goblin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Kinda yeah. WebView2 is edge (chromium) based and definitely is not uninstalled by uninstalling edge. But it won’t have the browser chrome or the MS Account association (for now, we all know it’s possible for ms to make things worse 💀)
arin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Kinda hard to download a browser without a browser
QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Probably be able to redownload it through the MS store.
root@precious.net 8 months ago
There are other protocols on the internet you know…
dont_lemmee_down@lemm.ee 8 months ago
If windows ships curl, then it’s easy!
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 8 months ago
A lot of apps do use Edge as an embedded control to display web content. (Back before Edge was a thing, they would do the same thing with Internet Explorer.) Doing this is the path of the least resistance to whoever is developing these pieces of shit, since they can (up until now) expect Edge to be present on the user’s system without having to cart around their own copy of a web browser and keep it updated in perpetuity with all the potential security holes not doing so could bring, yadda yadda yadda. Uninstalling Edge will indeed cause those particular programs to break.
There is now also the “Microsoft Edge WebView2 Runtime Environment” (via) which may or may not be able to run on its own even if the regular user-facing version of Edge is uninstalled – I have no idea, and I haven’t tried.
glasgitarrewelt@feddit.de 8 months ago
Who puts up with this shit anyway? Go buy an Apple. You can eat it while installing Linux.
Joelk111@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Had me in the first half.
I stick around with Windows due to shitty DRM and VR compatibility. It’s been a couple years since I last tried Linux, so maybe it’s gotten better. I should probably try it again.
Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s been a couple years since I last tried Linux, so maybe it’s gotten better
Have been seeing this same comment for two decades now so I’m guessing -
Narrator - “It hadn’t”
potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi 8 months ago
ALVR is totally capable at playing steamvr games if you have a quest headset, and htc headsets work aswell as valve indexes
small44@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This need to be applied to smartphones
smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
Imagine phones coming with a clean Android with the ability to install Google Play Services like a normal app 😌.
And documention to port other operating systems or new Android versions.
Dehydrated@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You just described GrapheneOS, by far the best mobile operating system IMO
Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The closest thing is Fairphone. Also, unfortunately, only available in Europe.
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Now imagine your boomer aunt trying to sideload an app store on her new phone
The_Worst@feddit.nl 8 months ago
They are working on it (or it is part of the DMA) to enable users to uninstall preloaded apps.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Linux phone when?
Bronco1676@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Already exists but not in a good shape for “normie” use
Suavevillain@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It takes the EU to force Microsoft to act reasonable.
mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 8 months ago
And they will ONLY act reasonable when forced.
minibyte@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
– and only I’m the EU. Sorry Britain.
The_Worst@feddit.nl 8 months ago
Not only Microsoft unfortunately.
turkishdelight@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
At least they are complying. Apple is being childish and throwing a tantrum.
bartolomeo@suppo.fi 8 months ago
Seriously, it took the EU to force Microsoft not to grey out “uninstall Edge”. Still there are non-billionaire people who want to eliminate government regulations, it boggles my mind. I mean, besides brainwashed business school bros.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
These changes are only applicable to users in the EEA. For those outside the region, Windows will continue to function as it is!
You misspelled “Windows will continue to be as fucked up as it is!”
XM34@feddit.de 8 months ago
Not for me :)
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Not OP but okay, I’ll bite: What exactly do you prefer about being locked into the MS ecosystem as opposed to being allowed to choose, including the choice to keep that very ecosystem?
Rye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Easy solution: don’t use Windows or if possible nothing from Microsoft at all
Moopinger@infosec.pub 8 months ago
Props to EU keeping these assholes in check
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Great news. Although it’s bizarre that it took an entire continent passing a new law to get to this point.
orosus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Does this EU’s Digital Markets Act also applies for Android and all the preinstalled apps by Google and the phone manufacturer?
woodenskewer@lemmy.world 8 months ago
how about fucking autopilot too instead of having to find a registry to disable it.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Meh, I purged windows from my systems last month. I will never be forced to (re)install Edge, use the garbage search, or link my pc to a gd Microsoft account again. I’ve had enough of Microsofts bullshit.
blazeknave@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Lol didn’t we do this 20 years ago?
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Great! Now please also make manufacturers give us the option to uninstall/change webview & other such services on android devices.
potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi 8 months ago
still not switching to windows
lightnegative@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Being able to uninstall OneDrive is a game changer. That thing annoys me so much
UmeU@lemmy.world 8 months ago
One drive is the one that really ruffles my feathers.
It turns itself back on randomly, which wouldn’t be too much of a problem except for that it fucking remaps the desktop… a file that was previously located at C:\user\desktop\ is now at C:\user\One Drive\desktop…
Note the space in the path, they didn’t even have the decency to use an underscore… \one_drive\… even though it’s one of their own rules in powershell scripting.
For those of us using powershell to automate stuff this remapping is a nightmare and should be illegal.
Too bad I am in the US and will just have to continue to get support calls from time to time when a users desktop gets remapped behind the scenes.
Maybe there is a way using powershell and windows scheduled tasks to check to see if one drive turned itself back on, then auto turn it off and remap the desktop back to normal.
The absurdity of having windows check to see if windows screwed itself up, then if so have it fix itself is just laughable.
revisable677@feddit.de 8 months ago
Finally! Always glad to see the EU forcing Tech Giants to be user friendly
PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Is this option only available in the EU for EU citizens?
tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
I"ve found way more practical uninstalling windows and switching to linux. An EU citizen.
Neato@ttrpg.network 8 months ago
I’d rather uninstall Chrome, TBH. If you need a Chromium browser, Edge is just better. And Bing is about as good as Google for most searches. Only a handful of things (like default maps) do I switch for. Which is honestly staggering because Bing used to be such shit in comparison. Google has really let itself go.
serpineslair@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Today is a good day.
Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
If I set my region to an EEA country is that good enough or do I need to reinstall windows to get this?
Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Good. Now make it be uninstalled by default.
Kalysta@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Awesome. How do I port this ability over to an American PC?
jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
confused solely Linux user noises
nakura@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Can I change my region on an existing install, or do I need to/should I do it on a fresh install?
waigl@lemmy.world 8 months ago
About 20 years ago, Microsoft was found guilty and convicted, because they forced their browser on their users, driving out competitors by abusing their de facto monopoly on PC operating systems. These days, they are doing the exact same thing again, just on an even broader base. I don’t even understand how this verdict took so long.
BakerBagel@midwest.social 8 months ago
It makes perfect sense once you understand that regulators have only cared about stock prices for the last 40 years. The EU coming down on giant corporations is a new development
Contend6248@feddit.de 8 months ago
Only because we don’t have any tech giants, we’ve slept on it so we get the money this way and try to slow down others until we figure shit out
Thorry84@feddit.nl 8 months ago
The fucking sad thing is, when they did it 20 years ago Internet Explorer became the gold standard. Now they are pushing super hard, annoying users, killing competition and they have a tiny market share. They aren’t getting anywhere, just being assholes because they don’t know how not to be.
banneryear1868@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Edge is just a Chromium build with more manageability for enterprise use.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Because Apple saw that and said “hold my beer”.
linearchaos@lemmy.world 8 months ago
“They” (collectively large lobbying corporations) own the US government.
evergreen@lemmy.world 8 months ago
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture
sunbeam60@lemmy.one 8 months ago
The behaviour required of you when you have a monopoly is different when you don’t.
These days IE isn’t a monopoly. Chrome is. So Microsoft is allowed more leeway to nudge its users.
This isn’t a verdict. There’s been no court case. This is Microsoft complying with EU regulation, which is very recent. Microsoft has responded to it quite quickly.
DrMango@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Demand reparations for Netscape Navigator!