And instead changing the time work and other things happens depending on where you are. Would be easier to arrange meetings across the globe. Same thing applies to summertime. You may start work earlier if you want, but dont change the clocks!
We have GMT/UTC for that purpose.
But do you want to see your clock at 02:00 and say “time to go to work”?
YaBoyMax@programming.dev 8 months ago
So You Want To Abolish Time Zones
In a nutshell:
Before abolishing time zones:
I want to call my Uncle Steve in Melbourne. What time is it there?
Google tells me it is currently 4:25am there.
It’s probably best not to call right now.
After abolishing time zones:*
I want to call my Uncle Steve in Melbourne. What time is it there?
It is 04:25 (“four twenty-five”) there, same as it is here.
Does that mean I can call him?
I don’t know.
person@lemm.ee 8 months ago
It can also tell you what the waking hours would be with the same amount of effort, no?
And to give another example:
Before abolishing time zones:
“Hey everyone on this global internet forum, we are launching at UTC+3 16:00 today!”
Oh okay. Wait am I UTC or UTC+1 right now? How much would that be?
After abolishing time zones
“Hey everyone on this global internet forum, we are launching at 16:00 today!”
Oh okay, 7 hours from now.
4am@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Yeah it’s too bad that we can’t have the convenience of both, right?
Hey, wait a minute…
XeroxCool@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s a situation where there are benefits to either option but one probably outweighs the other massively in frequency. I schedule many more international meetings and make many more international calls than the number of times I’ve needed a global event time. And that’s kinda saying something since I’m a space geek that looks for astronomical events, which are all UTC. It’s fewer steps to look up the distant current time and do the math from my current time for a passive event than it is to have everyone be UTC, then look up a distant wake time or business hours, then do math to figure out what the functional time is for something requiring human input.
China is one universal time despite spanning from +5 to +9
bouh@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Whether you realise it or not, there are two hours you are using here. Your local time that you suppose is automatically converted in your brain, and the international time that you can already use and is called UTC.
Learn to use UTC, problem solved.
Why do you want to create problems when there is a solution already?
bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
In one of these stories you used Google and in the other you didn’t. Both of these problems are solveable with Google
r00ty@kbin.life 8 months ago
We could all just cover our windows, take Vitamin D supplements and actually all live on the UTC timezone.
redcalcium@lemmy.institute 8 months ago
And let the brits enjoy UTC+0 like nothing happened while the rest of the word scrambles to adapt to the new time system? This is tyranny! I demand a new system where my region is the one with UTC+0 instead!
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 8 months ago
You still need to convert in your head to “decide if usually awake at this time”. This solves nothing. Plus what if they’re somewhere unfamiliar on a trip?
Meanwhile stuff like world time buddy or other locations on clocks are very accessible tools
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I lived in a tiny apartment with a streetlamp just outside my only window. Even with blackout curtains that room had no day/night cycle. I’m still trying to get back on a normal day/night cycle, fifteen years later.
So, that’s another method you could try.
kevincox@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Problem solved. This actually makes it problem simpler. With different time zones:
With one time zone:
hglman@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Exactly, it always requires knowing your uncles habits.
Turun@feddit.de 8 months ago
I am too late. I knew this would be the top post, even though the arguments brought forth in the blog post are utterly stupid. I would even go so far as to say their arguments are presented in bad faith, because I refuse to believe the author actually thinks that’s how it would go. (They have some seriously awesome posts, I most highly recommend qntm.org/mmacevedo)
With time zones:
you Google what the timzone offset is (aka at which point in your local timezone the sun rises over there). Considering this sunrise time you then have to make a judgement if your uncle would be awake now.
Without times zones: you Google at which time the sun rises over there. Considering this sunrise time you then have to make a judgement if your uncle would be awake now.
It’s literally the same process.
ech@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Ah yes, sunrise. That things that never ever changes depending on the time of year or location on the planet. Very dependable and memorizable thing, the sunrise.
knightly@pawb.social 8 months ago
You already have to Google for what time it is in another part of the world, and Google can also tell you when sunup, solar noon, sundown, and midnight are in Melbourne, so it sounds like you aren’t any worse off without time zones.
If you actually want to know if the sun is up somewhere else, then you want a world clock. At a glance visibility on the current position of the sun for every location on the globe, no time zones necessary.
Falcon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Just add 11 to utc.
No harder than having different times in different places.
hglman@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Just coordinate via asynchronous communication to schedule a time. It’s not 1935.
You: “hey uncle text me when it would be a good time to have a call”
6 hours later
Uncle: “hey i just got up, lets have a call at 4:50”
You: “thats a bid late for me, im in bed by 4:00, what about 3:30?”
Uncle: “sure sounds great”
No one needed to know anything about when people wake up, where on earth they live, etc.