Is “Crushed” a new term for driving away the most active and interesting users away?
How Reddit Crushed the Internet's Largest Protest
Submitted 11 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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alphacyberranger@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Something_Complex@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I sometimes us Instagram though and it’s soo much bot and ai contend.
Idk Reddit cuz I don’t go there anymore, but it seems the internet is fakker and fakker.
I just hope it’s real people that im messing with here in Lemmy. Because at least y’all still fight and argue XD, the comments aren’t brain dead.
Except for these guys that I just talked to that said they didn’t like Oppenheimer
Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 11 months ago
As an example, I don't understand people decrying reposted content from reddit. Also we have Risa, they don't.
But reposting is literally what reddit is too. And how it got started, reposting and bot comments from Digg. At least here you lot are all great to talk with.
TIN@feddit.uk 11 months ago
I for one am a totally normal human person
effward@lemmy.world 11 months ago
My only problem with Oppenheimer is that they should have issued earplugs upon entering the theater. Shit hurt my ears.
Like, I get that bombs are loud, but I don’t need to actually feel pain and probably damage my hearing to get the picture.
HerrBeter@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Beep boop
FelipeFelop@discuss.online 11 months ago
This is so true, when you go there now it’s full of “reply guys”, gatekeepers and trolls. There’s little to no sense of community and the money grabbing is even more upfront and obvious.
RememberTheApollo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
IMO they didn’t crush anything?
The apathetic remained.
Several of my subscribed subs are completely gone or functionally extinct due to lack of participation.
Anecdotally I find reduced participation in other subs, people seem less willing to have a discussion.
Personally I’ve moved on to Lemmy/KBin/etc. and spend most of my time there now.
But “crushed”?
jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev 11 months ago
Nah I’d say crushed because they started forcibly reopening subs, removing moderators, etc etc
Quadhammer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Crushed is a funny way to spell “all the good people left”
Fucking lol
shortwavesurfer@monero.town 11 months ago
I havent used reddit at all since August and from June 12 to August i was on the site for ~10 minutes total. I am a total lemmy user now with no need to use reddit at all. I dont even miss it since i can get everything here i did over their.
Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Same. I had an account that was probably 12+ years old. Reddit was a huge part of my recreational schedule.
I genuinely prefer Lemmy. The lack of algorithms pushing engagement is good for the soul. It’s here when I want it and I can leave it whenever I’m done.
shortwavesurfer@monero.town 11 months ago
Reddit was a big part of my day too. I had redreader easily accessible so i could just pop it open whenever i wanted to. Now Thunder has taken its place.
vanveen@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I did the same, but athough I love this place, there’s still a huge scarcity of contents. Sometimes, as a lurker, to find more stuff. Here we’re just an handful, thus I cannot still find here what I used to find on Reddit.
brsrklf@jlai.lu 11 months ago
What is really lacking is all the very specific communities centered around common interests. The more specific the harder, especially if it’s not a traditionally nerdy subject. I mean, there’s an obvious bias, and I won’t pretend I am not part of it.
Those used to have dedicated forums, but Reddit manage to capture them all for convenience, and now very few subsist. A good part of what’s left has been abandoned to AI spambots.
Part of this activity is now on discord, but the invite structure isn’t great for those. It makes this content hard to discover and impossible to search if you’re not aware of it.
SeaJ@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I’ve only been there when DuckDuckGo has directed me there in a search.
c0c0c0@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I know how everyone just wants to pipe up and say, “well it didn’t crush me hur hur”, but I actually watched the video. It’s a good record of what went down. I wish it would’ve mentioned Reddit alternatives, but it’s still solid work.
And to anyone who still maintains that the protest has fatally wounded Reddit, look, I’m on your side but Reddit is still the 800 lb gorilla of link aggregation, and most folks still don’t get why they should care about API pricing.
oldGregg@lemm.ee 11 months ago
800 pound gorilla only lasts until a kid falls in the cage
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 11 months ago
🍆🙊
autismismypower@fanaticus.social 11 months ago
I use my own third party app no problems, the ecosystem is much better than here.
the16bitgamer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Good video, though I feel that it just ended abruptly, almost as if they had more to say.
Reddit did stop the protest and after a month, Reddit was back to business as usual. With that said, due to the protest I got exposed to Lemmy, Mastadon and the Fediverse. And if you are a company, the last thing you want to do, is expose your customers to competition.
From a personal note, outside of a few niche communities I am subbed to on Reddit, like /r/vita. I’ve noticed a decline in quality in the posts, and outside of these small communities discussions are far and few between as well. Lemmy I’ve found is a lot more active, and I am interacting with it more.
FRCLYE@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I too have noticed a general drop in the quality of content on Reddit. Some of the smaller communities keep providing good information but now it’s a bit harder to find and sort them, others have absolutely went to shit.
thehatfox@lemmy.world 11 months ago
From what I’ve heard a lot of subreddits continue to exist but have lost some of their best contributors and mods. Some migrated to the fediverse, some elsewhere, others gave up entirely.
Despite being forced back open after the blackouts etc they are not the same as they were, the tone and quality of discussion has shifted a fair bit.
Aleric@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I was just on Reddit for the first time in awhile and all of my old subs, which are mostly niche interests, aren’t doing too well. There are far fewer quality posts and lots of spam. I was getting Facebook vibes.
m13@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Going onto a major subreddit like worldnews is just insane.
On the Palestinian genocide it’s just completely full of IDF posting pro-Israeli content. And all the comments are just propagandists agreeing with each other.
S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Totaly, outside the small communities everything feels so generic and bland ppl share such crazy stories all the time. I heard many time it’s filled with boys I’m believing it tbh.
Reality_Suit@lemmy.one 11 months ago
I haven’t been back since the exodus. Fuck reddit. Fuck spez
IDontHavePantsOn@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I had a specific problem today that googling didn’t help (it was a google account problem, go figure). I added reddit to the search terms and clicked into reddit for the first time in months. All I can say is that their UI is purposely horrible. Like, so fucking bad.
I would rather join tiktok than use reddit at this point. That should sound like sarcasm, or hyperbole, but it isn’t. Lemmy is feeling like the last social media network I’ll join, and as soon as lemmy gets to the toxicity levels of reddit, which no offense but I feel will be soon, I’m probably going to be the weird person that just uses their phone to call their family, utility companies, and watch hardcore anal fisting, footing, and prolapsing videos.
poopkins@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Whoa, I was with you there until the last bit.
In all seriousness, I do feel like Lemmy (and oddly, this community in particular) is quite toxic. There’s a lot of shouting matches and aggressively partisan one side vs. the other commentary and voting. Even on Reddit there was more civility that encouraged discourse.
Here on Lemmy—and to continue your theme of closing a comment with an awful visual—it’s often a bunch of circle jerking.
mordred@lemmy.world 11 months ago
They can spin it that way all they want but personally I just left. Granted, I was mostly a lurker but I’m quite sure they lost many of them.
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I was pretty active for about 10-12 years. Then things gradually started changing. As the platform got bigger it also got more toxic. I found myself commenting less and less because when I did I’d often be met by trolls or contrarians who didn’t want to have a discussion in good faith.
Outside a group of fellow mods who I got to know very well (and who I spoke to more outside of reddit anyway) I was disengaging from reddit, and I was getting disillusioned with it.
Lemmy feels a lot like reddit from around 2009/2010. In some ways it feels even better: it doesn’t have that underlying unpleasant corporate odor, and you have more confidence you are talking to a real person who is what they say they are, instead of a bot or a troll.
Saying reddit crushed the protest is accurate in some ways. But the next question is: what did they lose in doing so? I think they lost a lot of their charm, their character, their very essence.
I was already sniffing around for a new reddit before the whole protest thing. Turns out Lemmy is what I had been looking for off and on for the last couple of years.
I’ll take 1.5m or 150k or 20k or whatever the actual user count is over the shit show that has been reddit for the past few years.
cheesebag@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Same. Don’t care what reddit does now, cause I’m not there 🤷🏼♂️
Ltcpanic@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Same
kerrigan778@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I was a pretty active user. I check in maybe a few times a month now at most.
Mudflap00@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I can confirm, I lurk, I left Reddit and am not looking back.
Stamets@startrek.website 11 months ago
I started using reddit in 2011. Was nuts to see the changes it underwent. A lot of them bad.
Since leaving reddit during that protest, been more than happy to call Lemmy home. Especially when I go back to browse reddit occasionally and see how incredibly toxic and negative it is all the time. I don’t know if I was blind to it before or if it got worse. Every comment thread is awful. They focus on the negative of everything and are just bitter and angry.
Place sucks ass.
FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’d you disagree with the wrong mod or say something “offensive” banned. They look at your appeal and nothing changes.
At this point it’s just adult children “working” in their parents basement not making any money.
Stamets@startrek.website 11 months ago
Bro if you comment in a subreddit the mods don’t like you’re instantly banned, even if ironic. Mods over there are on a power trip and the lack of a modlog means zero accountability.
SoleInvictus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m one of the mods of a few subs even though I’m no longer active. I hopped on yesterday and had a chat with the remaining mods of a couple of subs. They’ve been SO busy moderating assholes, propagandists, aggressive conspiracy theorists, and spam bots. They’re suspending and banning accounts every day or two when it used to be an account or two every month. These are all small to medium sized, niche subs dedicated to helping people and sharing various ideas and people are trolling and harassing users like they’ve never seen before.
I checked out some of the subs’s contents and in short order found I let myself get sucked into trying to educate an anti-masker in a sub that really shouldn’t attract that type. It went how you’d expect, and it made me realize I haven’t had a single interaction like that on Lemmy. It’s nicer here.
Clinic@lemmy.world 11 months ago
it’s full of bots who uses AI to spread toxicity. And if you are genuine and report that, you’re going to be permabanned. The site is going down, fast
Lutra@lemmy.world 11 months ago
same. reddit is populated with users who’s comments are generally indistinguishable from those of a 12-15 year old.
Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Oh yeah I feel soooooo defeated and crushed just like soooooo sad that I have to be here and not with spez
ikidd@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I moderated a couple dozen specialized communities. I left them and haven’t been back in 5 months. They’re effectively dead now, weeks between posts and no activity.
Many niche sub’s have been murdered but the big shitsubs are still going strong with bots and spammers, so they have that going for them, I guess.
return2ozma@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Thank you for your service.
Jumi@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I deleted my account and it was liberating. Nowadays I only go there when I want to look up something for a game on Google.
ArugulaZ@kbin.social 11 months ago
Unfortunately, the vast storehouse of information on Reddit makes it impossible to remove it from your life completely. Of course, a lot of that was built up before the douchebag decided to kill third party apps and tell Reddit users that they didn't really matter that much to him. You mean the people whose comments built your site brick by brick? Okay, sure. Why would they be important?
If I'm that unimportant to you, I can be unimportant elsewhere.
RobertOwnageJunior@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s not even remotely impossible. Inconvinient, maybe.
Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Almost every info you find on Reddit can be found elsewhere. After all, Reddit is an aggregation machine, but it doesn’t produce that much unique content.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
I use a 3rd party API modded app with a burner a and check on niche communities that Lemmy doesn’t have yet…I do not comment, upvote or engage.
Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 11 months ago
I have RSS set up for the things I want.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It wasn’t really a protest to me. It was more of a migration. Some people stayed I guess. Whatever
Quexotic@infosec.pub 11 months ago
Reddit was. The fediverse is. Nuff said.
glacier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Reddit is still one of the biggest websites online. Hardly anyone outside of tech circles is familiar with Lemmy or the fediverse.
spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Reddit crushed itself more than anything. Sure they ended the protest, but that place is a ghost-town full of bots talking to each other now, with stale links that are several days old making up the front page of the big subs.
themurphy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
So… Just like Facebook which is the biggest SoMe platform in the world?
I don’t think reddit cares, as long as user numbers stay roughly the same. They did.
phoneymouse@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I used Reddit from 2010-2023. They crushed the protest alright and also ruined the site. I’ve lost all interest in using it. Fuck Reddit. Fuck Spez.
SupraMario@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The title does make it look like reddit is completely fine…when it’s like them burning down their own house to get rid of a house guest that was just staying to long.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
It was probably more akin to snagging up the conservatory but the owners have enough money that they just got the windows replaced the week after. The windows have a slight tint to them that wasn’t there before but the owners don’t care enough.
ours@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Just looked at Reddit after a long while. That new redesign is horrendous.
b000urns@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The only thing that matters to me is that the vast majority of my interactions on Reddit are shite ones with negative assholes, while the vast majority of my interactions here are pretty chill. Reddit won’t die, but if it did… I wouldn’t miss it one bit.
shirro@aussie.zone 11 months ago
All reddit did was unmask themselves a little but only for those with their eyes open. Social media is close enough to a cult operation utilizing addictive behaviors and conditioning to control people. People don’t want to leave their church and be shunned. Every tried to convince someone to leave Facebook? Reddit is just another exploitative techbro run business. It isn’t a social enterprise or open source community and it is weird that volunteers invested so much of their time and effort propping it up shareholder value instead of contributing to real communities.
Plenty of independent thinkers left and found federated alternatives or walked away. The predatory and manipulative nature of social media was bad enough when it was all about controlling and manipulating the masses but now it is also a huge machine learning harvesting operations. The only people who really benefit are the ultra rich.
ArugulaZ@kbin.social 11 months ago
Hey, I'm over here in Methadone Reddit, getting by. It's not as fun as Reddit used to be, but after the bug-eyed lemur boy decided to be a leading tech giant(tm) and fuck over his users in the process, I decided it was time to amscray. Sorry, King Julien. It was fun for a while, before your embarrassing power trip, but now you're just going to have to kiss my mad-ass-gasgar.
OmenAtom@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Left reddit and never looked back
Simulacra_sinulacrum@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
Joined Lemmy a few months ago as a direct result of how the responded to the protest
Artard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
I’m almost glad they did this. It cut my social media time down drastically, and really nothing of value was lost.
Eggyhead@kbin.social 11 months ago
Reddit didn’t do shit. Lemmy and Kbin crushed it by existing as alternatives. People who were unhappy just went there and settled.
tsonfeir@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Reddit’s Largest Protest.
kokesh@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah, they threatened and when I didn’t budge, they disabled my account. I found out lately, because I have been gone from that hellhole since summer. Somehow they forgot to reopen my subreddit I’ve marked as Private. I’m (was) the sole admin. Well, go fuck yourself Spaz.
alienanimals@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This video sponsored by Reddit!
Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 11 months ago
Went back to Reddit and immediately saw some homophobic trite. Friend of mine also had something happen to them and Lemmy users have said they experienced similar things.
Reddit is no better than Elon’s plaything at this point (and yes, I know Spez is influenced by Elon)
Shade@lemmy.world 11 months ago
To be honest, the quality of content went down even years before this spez/API thing started. It’s like Reddit got more polluted with shit even tho some quality stayed intact. The time was ripe for a change is what I felt anyways. So it was nice to learn more about the fediverse, and easy to move here because of all of this.
White_Flight@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Reddit sucks donkey balls
stoy@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
I deleted my Reddit accounts on the morning of the apicalypse, I still read Reddit though, but Lemmy has mostly replaced my social media use, and I spend more time on Lemmy than on Reddit these days.
eran_morad@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Fuck reddit. Can’t wait for the options chain after IPO.
zcd@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Crushed? Or drove away tons of OC creators and active members leaving a bot filled wasteland?
Naz@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I mean, it’s a victory if they shout it loudly enough, right?
Company is going bankrupt, users are gone, laying off the bottom quartile of the company, but they stopped the protest! Etc.
It’s like reading the top two lines of a disaster report and declaring victory. Fuck Reddit.
SharkAttak@kbin.social 11 months ago
Even during the protest a lot of users thought it was caused by "power-mad" mods, some people just eat what they're fed.
ConstipatedWatson@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Well, I still visit Reddit once a week since there are communities there that don’t yet exist here (or they are nearly empty).
I’m now all the time on Lemmy and am even much more active than what I ever was on Reddit, but I only have so much time.
I noticed there are slightly less quality posts in some subreddits, but I wouldn’t call Reddit crushed.
In fact, subscribers in all the subreddits I used to follow are actually up and even by a lot, while Lemmy users don’t really seem to increase by much (though I’d like them to).
I’d like to see a sudden growth in Lemmy and fall of Reddit, but I don’t think it’s anywhere near (though I’ll keep doing my part here!)
rambaroo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The comments on Reddit are way worse now, it’s extremely noticeable. Look at comments on /r/science for example. The vast majority of subs are completely unmoderated now or taken over by a small group of people. Like /r/worldnews allowing people to openly support genocide of Arabs.
DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
I don’t. Let the idiots stay on reddit. Leave lemmy how it is. Is it so terrible that one might have to visit reddit to find some niche communities?
LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 11 months ago
🙄
Crushed. Lots lots more of over at reddit as well as a smaller percent hours.
Lemmys front page is a ton of bots reposting content from Reddit.
Neither of the services have a lot of OC.
FrostyTrichs@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It took a couple weeks but I’ve found that blocking some bot accounts and adjusting the sorting on the app I use has plenty of fresh content with active posts. It isn’t exactly the same as reddit in its prime, but I shouldn’t expect it to be either.
It’s causing me to branch out into other topics and conversations that I probably would’ve missed on a gigantic platform like reddit. I think reddit made it easy to see interesting content because of how long it had to develop into a community. Lemmy is still a bit jumbled and fragmented, but the community seems to be sticking around and forming a new identity apart from reddit.
tsonfeir@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Yeah, turns out the lawless fediverse needs a few laws and a governing board.