Consumers are paying more than ever for streaming TV each month and analysts say there’s no reason for the companies to stop raising prices

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• Kyrgizion@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yarrrr, we be seein’ about that…

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  • Kadaj21@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah I don’t have the budget to subscribe to multiple streaming services, let alone cable or even one service. Thank god there’s not a lot I’d want to watch…even if sailing high seas.

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• Sanyanov@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Streaming:

  Charges you unreasonable amount of money If you cancel the subscription, you lose it all If they change the terms, you may lose access to some of the things in your library

  Torrent:

  Costs a grand total of 0$ Allows you to retain content for eternity Requires a 5 second effort to enter the name of a show/film in Sonarr/Radarr

  The choice is clear.

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  • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Torrent:

    -Unless your a millennial with really good memory… requires a (usually) a good paid VPN + 3 hours of reading and setup so you dont get nasty letters from your ISP.

    -Requires requisite ports and knowledge of how to get the shows to your TV

    -ideally requires a standalone PC, which most households no longer have

    -Requires knowledge of additional programs that need to be researched and have paid competition

    -Requires knowledge of how to find the source material, with huge gatekeeping between source pools

    I am probably forgetting other stuff, especially for Gen Z and now the oldest Gen Alpha. But if I as a millennial feel it’s a burden to relearn the steps for something I already was doing a decade or so ago. That must be a massive bar for someone who never had their hand in it, so to speak.

    I am not saying it’s impossible, just I haven’t found a straight forward guide from beginning to end, with all the new technology included. And the first time they get a love note from their ISP, they will likely just stop.

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    • Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is the age of information. It would take a grand total of a few hours for the average person to watch a video to give them all the knowledge they need to avoid the pitfalls you listed.

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    • reddit_sux@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      • VPN is easy especially the good paid ones.
      • You can use VPN and torrent on your mobile and cast it there are apps for it. Or you can use one of the NAS which will do it for you no need to remember anything.
      • You needn’t use a PC.

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    • Specal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So you are mostly wrong here, I’ll let you know my setup that costs me $15 a month.

      A 4 core 8GB VPS: $5 a month. Unlimited cloud Storage: €10 a month.

      I have Emby (Use jellyfin, I haven’t changed out of laziness), Sonarr, Radarr, Jellyseerr all running on a VPS with caddy running a reverse_proxy to point a domain at emby via HTTPS.

      No need for VPNs, but you can run OpenVPN on your VPS for maximum value for money if you want to use a high speed VPN.

      It’s all very straight forward to setup on Ubuntu 20.04 with lots of documentation. My server has been up for 3 months now and I have had 0 issues, friends use jellyseerr to requests shows and movies. Everything else is automated. Can even import lists from IMDb.

      Make sure if you want to save space to use h.265 encoding where possible. Additionally, if you don’t want to torrent you can use newservers. But that will cost an additional $10 a month.

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    • Sanyanov@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The skill issues related to piracy can and should be addressed. This is how we form a truly strong resistance to the madness that is going on.

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    • joel_feila@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I have never been in a house with out a pc since the 90s.

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    • ABC123itsEASY@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You’re mistakening the wide range of solutions and tooling for complexity.

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    • rolling_resistance@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s not hard. Mullvad is €5/month. In torrent client, set up Mullvad proxy. Go to thepiratebay or any other tracker to download. Watch.

      You can also do it on your old laptop and use it as a home media server. Android TV can access network shares, I’m sure some of the others can too.

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    • jack@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Good points, there should be an all-in-one solution you very easily guides you through all the necessary steps

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    • retrieval4558@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The knowledge is extremely easy to obtain though. There are lots of very detailed guides. It’s not extremely complex, anyway.

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    • Lightor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I mean, most of this is wrong?

      What are you reading for 3 hours about a VPN?

      Why do you need to know about ports? You can literally put shows on a flash drive and plug it in.

      A alone PC, why? What?

      A lot of this can be done, but this is not the bar for entry by any means.

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  • EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    plus, you fight corporate greed.

    Theft removes the original, priacy makes a copy.

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  • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wow theft is free!? Who would have thought!

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    • CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Piracy is a service and pricing issue. Plenty of people willing to pay, proven by the fact the streaming services were so successful in the first place. They’re just not willing to take substantial pay hikes when they’re going hungry.

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  • TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    lol I’m like 20 clicks into Sonarr’s website and I still cant find a simple answer: what is Sonarr?

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    • Sanyanov@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Some sites just assume you know. In short, thing that automates and streamlines series piracy. Radarr is for films, Lidarr for music, Readarr for book, Whisparr for porn, Prowlarr allows to better manage sources for all of the above.

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    • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Agreed. I found it a bit disappointing they skipped to the highlights without describing the big picture first. This is from their GitHub:

      Sonarr is a PVR for Usenet and BitTorrent users. It can monitor multiple RSS feeds for new episodes of your favorite shows and will grab, sort and rename them. It can also be configured to automatically upgrade the quality of files already downloaded when a better quality format becomes available.

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  • crackajack@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My main gripe with torrent is that there isn’t always a seeder available. This is a major issue if you’re looking for a movie that isn’t mainstream. There are pirate streaming services but we know that the quality is not also great. Even if you download from torrent, the quality is not also always great. I definitely noticed difference in video and sound quality between torrent and what your get from “mainstream” sources. Some torrent say they’re 4k or HD quality, but many files are actually cropped so that uploading and downloading is faster.

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    • Sanyanov@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’d also give Usenet and Soulseek a try, lots of rare media in there

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    • NightAuthor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ve got a setup that has gradually improved over the years, I have put a few hundred $$ in that time too.

      But, it was fairly easy to get started, my improvements have made the automatic downloads very consistently high quality, and sonarr/radarr do all the searching and filtering for me.

      My wife wanted to watch some Winnie the Pooh, within like 5 minutes the first season was ready to watch, and the rest was finished downloading and ready before the 1 episode was over.

      And it only took 5 minutes because I had to help the searcher bc all my auto filters are optimized for recent releases. Though I’m gonna set up some filters for older stuff, so it’s not trying to download a 4K hdr file for something that came out 50 years ago and was never remastered to 4K.

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• OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  No reason to stop raising prices for any business, except for the fact that demand goes down as price goes up. People will cancel or downshift to a cheaper service.

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  • joemo@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There’s a scene in Fight Club about how auto companies approach recalls, and a similar method is applied for these price hikes. The company predicts how many people will leave or change plans or whatever with their changes and they price it out so that they end up making more money.

    And for a small example let’s say you have two customers paying $10/month for a service. If the price increases by $11, and one customer leaves, you are now making $21/month from the service.

    Now it’s not as simple as that in the real world, but that’s the general idea.

    The issue here is that even if a vocal minority leave these streaming services, or social media there’s still a large amount of people putting up with their shit.

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    • tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s literally what they teach you about basic economics at school…

      The standard graph of price increasing on one side and customer demand decreasing on the other, and how companies try to find the crossover point.

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    • DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sorry mate this is not some special fight club logic. It’s not even really accounting or economics logic, it’s just kinda common sense.

      What price should I sell my lemonade for? I’ll have more customers if I sell it cheaper…

      The part which seems lost on most commenters is that these companies have huge and very sophisticated market research campaigns. They can predict with great accuracy how their demographics will respond.

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  • AbidanYre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    downshift to a cheaper service.

    Yarr matey

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  • baronvonj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    People will cancel or downshift to a cheaper service.

    Streaming platforms make more money from you if you use the cheaper ad-supported plans. The price hikes are to get you off the ad-free plans.

    hollywoodreporter.com/…/netflix-disney-now-pushin…

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• StalinistTransition@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  just fucking pirate your shit you fucking losers, stop losing hundreds of dollars a month to streaming services that will just charge you more for their dogshit

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  • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why are you pirating dogshit?

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• jetsetdorito@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m begging zoomers to learn how to torrent

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  • Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m kind of amazed how my Gen Z buddies are so adamantly against pirating. They think the cops will bust down their door, literally.

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    • banananya@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      As a gen z kiddo, like half of the software on my pc and 90% of my movies are pirated lmao.

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    • Kiosade@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I mean i’ve met a lot of millenials like that too. I’m not exactly sure where it stems from

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    • thejml@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      A few of mine got cease and desist orders from their ISP, one got two… so that’s why they’re against it. Some now do VPN, some just hop streaming services. Some just stopped watching as much stuff because: life.

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    • AtariDump@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Did you not see the PSA?

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  • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why? You realize if everyone torrents there will be nothing to torrent, right?

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    • Syrc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Everyone torrented in the 00’s, and Netflix was born from that.

      No way they’ll let the whole market crash before trying to get some customers back.

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    • Lightor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Lol no. That’s not how an economy works. When you sell less of a thing you then have to adjust price to make it favorable again. Companies aren’t just going to say “If we can’t charge $350 a month we might as well just turn off this massive money machine.” No, they will charge $200 and accept making less money over making no money.

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• ABC123itsEASY@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yarr harr fiddle dee dee. Fuck Netflix, Hulu and Disney

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  • nslatz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=SLMJpHihykI

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    • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ll have you know I watched two fucking vrbo commercials just to watch that 240p video!

      Arrrrr

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    • Iampossiblyatwork@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      m.youtube.com/watch?v=iH3tqQY0ioI&pp=ygUQeW91…

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• Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • andrai@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why is piracy costing you 4$ a month.

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    • algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      VPN?

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    • fiah@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      not everyone can torrent freely

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    • MadBigote@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’d say piracy is not even free, if some right. I mean, you may want to support JDownloader, MediaFire, Mega, your VPN, and whatnot.

      I’m not into piracy (wink), but if I did, I’d pay my monthly Plex subscription, MediaFire account, and tip JDownloader monthly for their effort.

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  • EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I do pay a little for Usenet and my NZB indexer, about $115 per year all said and done. And I pay for hardware and electricity, but I wouldn’t have it any other way.

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    • ScrotusMaximus@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Any recommendations for usenet provider?

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• ohlaph@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I am slowly cancelling services with each price increase. I uave cancelled Netflix and HBO. Will continue until morale improves.

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• tankplanker@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  With prices going up and likely subscribers going way down the next logical move for the Streaming Companies is to start cracking down on Piracy again as they already had a go at password sharing.

  Now I am not saying they will be successful in prosecuting those that are careful, just that there will be a few high profile cases against groups of people who aren’t using the best hygiene when it comes to piracy. Fear is their best weapon against piracy that they actually want to deploy, just make sure you do enough research to make sure you aren’t in that harvest of low hanging fruit.

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• Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Really? No reason to stop raising prices? My Jolly Roger got something to say about that.

  Piracy has never been easier or safer or faster than it is now, and these platforms think driving people away with overpriced subscriptions for shitty content is beneficial for them?

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  • Chobbes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Piracy isn’t easier than not bothering to cancel your subscription for most people. I’m sure they’ll lose some people, and especially the demographic here, but I don’t know about the average person.

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    • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And yet I see all sorts of articles saying these platforms complain that piracy is now even higher than before Netflix became a streaming service.

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  • aksdb@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Piracy has never been easier or safer or faster than it is now

    What?! It was way easier and safer in the era of Napster, edonkey and emule. Easy discoverability and companies didn’t pay any attention yet. Since then it’s a cat and mouse game.

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• Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ve no problem with paying for good services, but when I get a better service from a random pirate streaming site than I do from Amazon Prime, why would I continue paying for that?

  I’m just sick of things either being exclusive to one service even though they’re decades old, or just plain not available.

  Oh, and if I’m paying, I don’t want ads. Not ever.

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  • SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve no problem with paying for good services

    Exactly. It used to be that netflix was all you needed to get most quality content, and it was a fair deal for customers: you pay a reasonable monthyl amount, and you and your family gets convenient access to most streamable movies and TV series.

    Now that quality content is spread out over half a dozen other streaming services, which is not just a hassle but incredibly bad value too compared to the original offer.

    In a healthy competitive environment, you would expect companies to counter reduced value by increasing customer value in other ways or by reducing prices, but instead we got price hikes, lots of low quality filler content, crack downs on password sharing, advertising, various unpopular UI changes and other service reductions decreasing value even further.

    To solve this, I think the content producers and streaming services should be split up, because right now they’re not really competitors in a true sence but small monopolies who each clutch the keys to their own little franchises. It should be noted for example that music streaming works a lot better: there are various competitors that each hold a viable content library on their own, so you don’t need more than one music streaming service. IMO that’s because Spotify, Tidal, YT Music, etc. are merely distributors and not the actual producers.

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  • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I have a problem paying for DRM. I want to use open source and DRM is the opposite. I like (and buy sometimes) Creative Commons music/audio-books just because it tastes better when artist isn’t supporting restricting me. Cory Doctorow is a creative worker who lives and breaths anti-DRM, if you’ve not explored this. I recommend his old talk “The Coming War on General Computation”.

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  • GR4VY@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Source on better pirate streaming service?

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  • Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah some of the arr software is pretty fucking cool for being entirely free.

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• Devouring@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Weird… why is piracy growing then? Every reasonable person should pay $300 to watch the shows he wants on the weekend… and then pay a couple more hundreds in the theater.

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  • lemmington_steele@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    every dollar you raise, the fewer customers you get. the point is that you should want to raise the price whenever the relative drop in customers is less than the relative increase in price to maximise profits (where marginal cost is marginal benefit :) )

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• Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Oh how I hate those graphs that could but doesn’t start at zero.

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  • Kiosade@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It wouldn’t make any sense in this case, their prices never started at 0.

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• WaxedWookie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Now chart hours of content against cost across the market, and watch it go vertical. Bonus for weighting by critical rating.

  Piracy is the only reasonable choice.

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• jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Thanks for the reminder to cancel Disney+ and HBO Max - I almost forgot! ;)

  Still have Peacock, because that’s comped through my mobile provider.

  My wife does Amazon Prime, Netflix, and Hulu. I had Prime but realized I only ever used it for free shipping, which I can get anyway by bundling my orders and setting ship dates.

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  • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bundling orders and set ship dates - what? This is something I don’t know about.

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• tdawg@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  People in this comment section really thinking that the average person cares enough to go learn how computers really work in order to get tv for free

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  • BradleyUffner@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You laugh, but that’s exactly what happened with Napster and other file sharing software. It starts with the nerds, then someone makes a good easy piece of software for it, then everyone is downloading cars.

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  • ZzyzxRoad@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I definitely care enough, but I can’t figure it out to save my life. All the online communities just act like everyone’s supposed to automatically already know what they’re talking about.

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  • Lightor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think people forget that it happens often. Remember napster/sharebear/lime wire. People learn when motivated.

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  • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve tried, but I can’t get qbtorrent to work correctly. It’s just stalls on every download now.

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• Cyberflunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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• JoeKrogan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Don’t forget sharing is caring. 😉

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• HurlingDurling@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Remind me if this is still valid a year from now

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  • graymess@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I am actually curious. We like to laugh at the obviously anti-consumer practices these streaming services are pushing, saying they’ll end up losing their customers to piracy, but the point of the article is to illustrate that just isn’t happening and most people will suck it up and pay more for less.

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• query@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Streaming services, digital services in general, should be made to compete on having the best platform, not on exclusive content.

  It’s all the same wires going to the same machines. Internationally, too. I can see maybe allowing for different pricing for countries with very different wage levels, but if it’s online, it should be available everywhere.

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  • SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Streaming services, digital services in general, should be made to compete on having the best platform, not on exclusive content.

    The way to get that is to split them and say: a streaming provider can’t be a content creator as well. That way, content creating companies would be incentivized to sell their content to every streaming provider at a price that the market will bear, and streaming providers would be incentivized to compete on providing the best experience to their users.

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  • duffman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m paying for the services that produce the best content, not simply platforms that host content from others. It would be nice if they shared it to other streaming services, but then they would have little reason to create them.

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• BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I already unsubscribed from prime and if Disney+ is changing to the Netflix way of "no no no you cannot share your account" than that will be gone too. I already thought about unsubscribing from Netflix as well.
  But I guess me and my friends are not the norm with a plex server that gets feeded by ~10 persons who like to buy blurays :D

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• UFODivebomb@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Raise prices. Blame “the liberal agenda”. Profit.

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• praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  We’re also getting more than ever from streaming. That is if you like shitty remakes and sadistic defacto porn.

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• Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Ohhhhhhhhhh… it’s a pirates life for me. We have never subscribed to any of this shit. Savings have allowed us to eat avacado toast.

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• Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  One option that exists for the price-averse is going for the low-subscriber streaming services. This doesn’t give you the popular shows everyone else is watching, but it’s suitable if your goal is to just entertain yourself with something distracting for a while.

  I was briefly subscribed to Shudder, a niche horror flick service that doesn’t cost much and has a few decent items on there.
  Crunchyroll is relatively cheap for anime, has been buying up other properties to give itself a large library. That said, there are accusations that the money doesn’t ever reach the original creators. HiDive is another anime service with some weird options.
  There’s free services like Pluto TV, usually ad-supported (but hey, a lot of the paid options are giving ads)

  Haven’t read it, but there’s also articles out there about other options, should people decide the major entries are too expensive, and they don’t want to go for piracy. Knowing your options is always good.

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• charonn0@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Some observers see another reason for the frequent price hikes: to push subscribers to their breaking point, and compel them to opt for a lower-priced, or even free, ad-supported plan instead.

  Disney CEO Bob Iger said as much during an August earnings call: “We’re obviously trying, with our pricing strategy, to migrate more subs to the advertiser-supported tier.”

  I’ll cancel my account before I willingly subject myself to advertising. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

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• Lightor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ll give you a reason, pirating. Pirating with obfuscated networks (VPN, onion, etc) will never die. People just put it down because the convenience was worth the price. When it no longer is, ships will sail the seas again, and having everything already digital in these services will make it that much easier.

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• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Charge the analysts more first. I’m sure they’ll charge their tune.

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• Savaran@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Nope, because every time another one raises the price we cancel it. It’s working out quite well

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• TheLobotomist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Arrrrrr

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