G-Assist is ‘real’: NVIDIA unveils NitroGen, open-source AI model that can play 1000+ games for you

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• henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I want AI to do my chores not play my games.

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  • themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Right? Like, figure out how to sort and fold laundry.

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  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Work is hard, modern games are easy.

    Shoot this dot, go to that dot, bring “x” to this dot…

    Anything requiring trial and error like a puzzle, the bot just brute forces trying every possible outcome until something works.

    It works because games have a finite set of options and at least one progresses. The real world isn’t that clean, and you don’t get infinite chances to get 1 correct solution.

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  • Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Honestly I’d be curious about what a couple Minecraft bots could do. If you gave them a roadmap to endgame gear, what kind of farms would they build?

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• ChicoSuave@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Why the fuck is AI always being applied to only parts of society that are fun?

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  • aurelar@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So you can spend more time working shit jobs for shit pay. Aren’t you happy? 😊

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  • krooklochurm@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I want LLMs to be used to create thousands of characters that have agency in like, Skyrim or something, and to watch the absolutely unhinged fucking chaos of what it creates.

    I don’t want it to play games for me.

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• pastermil@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Great! Now the AI can play the video games for me while I do the dishes. I swear it was the other way around in the SciFi.

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  • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Shut up and get back down the mines or your robot manager will have to terminate you.

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    • pastermil@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Plot twist: turns out that at some point, the billionaire got replaced by robots who have learned to be megalomaniac assholes.

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• cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Game companies: spend millions fighting cheating and cheat software.

  Nvidia: here comes AI game assist!

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  • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Next: game companies can subscribe to NVIDIA anti-AI-cheating AI. This is innovation under capitalism.

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  • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Cheaters have been using object detection AI to cheat for quite some time

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• hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That’s cool. AI can do art and writing and video games for me. It can watch all my shows. All I have to do is work and maybe sleep. Sounds fun.

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• hydrashok@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Image

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  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I can’t believe I’m not really not really flying a spaceship!

    Leonard > Amy

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• taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Y’all laugh but there are way too many people into idle games, not to mention people who prefer watching a stream (even without commentary) over playing a game itself.

  I cannot comprehend why, though, just like I can’t comprehend how cheating (particularly single player) can be fun.

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  • krooklochurm@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Cheats in single player games is a blast.

    It gets old quick but it’s fun for a while.

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  • MalReynolds@slrpnk.net ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    how cheating (particularly single player) can be fun

    Have you never played a game with unreasonable grind that saps all the fun out of it ? Often just to drive player hours and ‘engagement’. Multiplayer cheats however can die in a fire.

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    • taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I suppose. When I’m referring to cheats, it’s more in regards to invulnerability, infinite resources, etc., which seem to sap the point of having a game in the first place. Like making the fun parts into a grind, rather than the other way around.

      That said, I’ll also say sometimes part of the challenge is the grind, so it depends. You have to pick your own poison, right?

      Like, take Silksong for example. You lose out on the full experience if you mod out the annoying run from bench to boss, it’s like a 40 second annoyance built in punishment. But I get why you’d do that-- it’s technically there for a reason but I get it. Hell, even the difficulty adjustment mods I can understand.

      But making the bosses die in one hit or making yourself invulnerable? Now you’ve lost me, that’s like a core element of the game; you might as well just watch someone else play it because what’s the point.

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    • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Then just don’t play that game lmao

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  • Bruncvik@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t watch others playing games, either, but someone who likes those streams told me he didn’t see a difference between watching good gamers play games and good football players play football.

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  • dev_null@lemmy.ml ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You never used cheat codes in GTA San Andreas and the like? It’s a lot of fun

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    • taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I actually thought about that after my comment and summoning a tank from nowhere was fun. At least for a little bit… but maybe mostly for the novelty of it all. Also I was like, 12.

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  • Diurnambule@jlai.lu ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Imagine thé thing you cook and guide a rimworld playing ia while making cookie then an horde attack you start yelling the cookie burn your base is lost.

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• TriangleSpecialist@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I guess Elon won’t be needing gamers’ services to max out his characters anymore.

  Fucking AI taking valuable jobs away again.

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• MoreZombies@quokk.au ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  How much legal trouble would I get for kicking a CEO in the testicles? it feels like it would be worth it if I ever met NVIDIA’s bosses.

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  • Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Depends, are you rich?

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    • mangaskahn@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Or remarkably good-looking?

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• BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Great, another fun thing the LLM craze want to take from me. FFS.

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• morto@piefed.social ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The age of ai-generated streamers is coming…

  People and corporations will automatize all the process and turn it into passive income, and a lot of people will somehow watch it, making the thing profitable.

  I’m tired of all this…

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• LiveLM@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Oh yeah? Go beat Talos Principle then.

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  • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I see what you did there.

    Zzzt!

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• DrSleepless@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  AI will do all the fun and creative things for you so you can get back to work

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• db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Actually if they can use that to make good ai opponents for 4x games, it’d be pretty sweet

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  • Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Except you don’t need a neural net to do this, nor would you really want one for it because it would be incredibly slow unless you use the GPU to run it which might be a bit busy running the actual game. It’s like a “make game run worse” option.

    In game AI can be pretty sophisticated even without the addition of neural nets which could be OK with determining strategy based on player action, but really isn’t going to be good for the entire control.

    This kind of thing is only useful as tech demo for playing platformers and the like with the same inputs a human player would, basically more like a bot.

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    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      In game AI can be pretty sophisticated even without the addition of neural nets which could be OK with determining strategy based on player action, but really isn’t going to be good for the entire control.

      Given that it has been the weak point in almost all 4x games in the past 30 years, I’d be happy if they give anything novel a try

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• SuiXi3D@fedia.io ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  …why? What’s the point?

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  • 6nk06@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Soylent green I guess. No money, no fun, no job. You’re free to die.

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• gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The ultimate conclusion to cheating in video games is literally thst having the robot play them for you

  Something is just wrong with their brains which allows them to derive pleasure from antisocial activity 🤷‍♀️

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• riskable@programming.dev ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  FYI: Stuff like this is for automated testing, not “playing games for you” 🤣

  Also, I won’t consider it realistic until it can type out, “lol git gud scrub” after ganking someone who just spawned.

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  • Dojan@pawb.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Makes sense. Upscaling and video interpolation instead of optimisation. Image generation instead of artists. Now this instead of actual testing.

    The 💩💩💩 gaming industry is going to somehow get even worse.

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    • riskable@programming.dev ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Good games are orthogonal to AI usage. It’s possible to have a great game that was written with AI using AI-generated assets. Just as much as it’s possible to have a shitty one.

      If AI makes creating games easier, we’re likely to see 1000 shitty games for every good one. But at the same time we’re also likely to see successful games made by people who had great ideas but never had the capital or skills to bring them to life before.

      I can’t predict the future of AI but it’s easy to imagine a state where everyone has the power to make a game for basically no cost. Good or bad, that’s where we’re heading.

      If making great games doesn’t require a shitton of capital, the ones who are most likely to suffer are the rich AAA game studios. Basically, the capitalists. Because when capital isn’t necessary to get something done anymore, capital becomes less useful.

      Effort builds skill but it does not build quality. You could put in a ton of effort and still fail or just make something terrible. What breeds success is iteration (and luck). Because AI makes iteration faster and easier, it’s likely we’re going to see a lot of great things created using it.

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    • Miaou@jlai.lu ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This seems like a very good use of the tech. Fuzzy testing is difficult to do, and it’s all about scale

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• realitista@lemmus.org ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Finally I will get through my Steam queue!

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• SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Ton of dead multiplayer games that don’t have bots

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• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Great,

  And I’m guessing like all gen AI, it would be mediocre at best and never reach the top players.

  Now all they need is a way to turn mediocre gameplay into money, surely that part would be easy

  Also, I don’t think they could use it for testing as there could be plenty of false positive or negatives.

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  • dukemirage@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s already been a few years, before the LLM boom, and a neural networked figured out how to play Super Mario Bros by simply looking at the RAM and it mastered the game.

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    • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      But that’s cheating no? The challenge is playing the game using user input with all the delays and extra steps that can happen along the way.

      Also, optimizing a neural network for just one narrow use case is not what’s being discussed here.

      ML is very, very good at narrow use cases, same with other tools of automation going back a century, they are talking about generic all purpose ML

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    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Racing games too, especially single player races.

      If conditions are the same every run, it will eventually find the mathematically fastest way. I saw a video about a guy doing it, and after thousands of runs the bot noticed a glitch if the car wasn’t on four wheels allowing it to move insanely fast. Like grinding a rail in Tony Hawk, the bot would immediately do it, and run the entire course on the glitch.

      That’s not human intelligence tho, that’s the same as when a slime mold can design a transportation network as effectively as we can.

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• Kr4u7@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Botting just got a whole lot easier - now old bitcoin farmers can go back to currency farming in games. At least in game currency prices will drop.

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• IHeartBadCode@fedia.io ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Mom, I want an aim bot!

  But we have aim bots at home.

  The aim bots at home.

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• friend_of_satan@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The reverse centaur lives!

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• TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I guess you answered it yourself, for testing.

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