G-Assist is ‘real’: NVIDIA unveils NitroGen, open-source AI model that can play 1000+ games for you

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• henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I want AI to do my chores not play my games.

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  • themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Right? Like, figure out how to sort and fold laundry.

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  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Work is hard, modern games are easy.

    Shoot this dot, go to that dot, bring “x” to this dot…

    Anything requiring trial and error like a puzzle, the bot just brute forces trying every possible outcome until something works.

    It works because games have a finite set of options and at least one progresses. The real world isn’t that clean, and you don’t get infinite chances to get 1 correct solution.

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  • a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sorry, AI must only be inserted into places it isn’t actually wanted.

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  • Venator@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Silver lining: maybe it could be used to make some games more accessible for people with disabilities

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  • Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Honestly I’d be curious about what a couple Minecraft bots could do. If you gave them a roadmap to endgame gear, what kind of farms would they build?

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    • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sort of already exists as Baritone. github.com/cabaletta/baritone I’m not sure what all it can and can’t do but it’s pretty sophisticated.

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• pastermil@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Great! Now the AI can play the video games for me while I do the dishes. I swear it was the other way around in the SciFi.

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  • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Shut up and get back down the mines or your robot manager will have to terminate you.

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    • pastermil@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Plot twist: turns out that at some point, the billionaire got replaced by robots who have learned to be megalomaniac assholes.

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    • mPony@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Merry Christmas from Chiron Beta Prime :) www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3DyxaCYlfg

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• cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Game companies: spend millions fighting cheating and cheat software.

  Nvidia: here comes AI game assist!

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  • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Next: game companies can subscribe to NVIDIA anti-AI-cheating AI. This is innovation under capitalism.

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  • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Cheaters have been using object detection AI to cheat for quite some time

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• ChicoSuave@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why the fuck is AI always being applied to only parts of society that are fun?

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  • aurelar@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So you can spend more time working shit jobs for shit pay. Aren’t you happy? 😊

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    • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      AI took that too! Oops all joblessness! 🤩

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  • krooklochurm@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I want LLMs to be used to create thousands of characters that have agency in like, Skyrim or something, and to watch the absolutely unhinged fucking chaos of what it creates.

    I don’t want it to play games for me.

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    • LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t even want that, I’d rather a game have its characters and writing created with intent by a person who cares.

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    • nforminvasion@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That would be so freaking cool

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    • architect@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I do too so I’m making a game that does that.

      Not sure if I’ll get to fully flesh it out but if I’m doing it it’s definitely coming.

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• hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s cool. AI can do art and writing and video games for me. It can watch all my shows. All I have to do is work and maybe sleep. Sounds fun.

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• hydrashok@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Image

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  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I can’t believe I’m not really not really flying a spaceship!

    Leonard > Amy

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• TriangleSpecialist@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I guess Elon won’t be needing gamers’ services to max out his characters anymore.

  Fucking AI taking valuable jobs away again.

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• taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Y’all laugh but there are way too many people into idle games, not to mention people who prefer watching a stream (even without commentary) over playing a game itself.

  I cannot comprehend why, though, just like I can’t comprehend how cheating (particularly single player) can be fun.

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  • MalReynolds@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    how cheating (particularly single player) can be fun

    Have you never played a game with unreasonable grind that saps all the fun out of it ? Often just to drive player hours and ‘engagement’. Multiplayer cheats however can die in a fire.

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    • taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I suppose. When I’m referring to cheats, it’s more in regards to invulnerability, infinite resources, etc., which seem to sap the point of having a game in the first place. Like making the fun parts into a grind, rather than the other way around.

      That said, I’ll also say sometimes part of the challenge is the grind, so it depends. You have to pick your own poison, right?

      Like, take Silksong for example. You lose out on the full experience if you mod out the annoying run from bench to boss, it’s like a 40 second annoyance built in punishment. But I get why you’d do that-- it’s technically there for a reason but I get it. Hell, even the difficulty adjustment mods I can understand.

      But making the bosses die in one hit or making yourself invulnerable? Now you’ve lost me, that’s like a core element of the game; you might as well just watch someone else play it because what’s the point.

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    • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Then just don’t play that game lmao

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  • krooklochurm@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Cheats in single player games is a blast.

    It gets old quick but it’s fun for a while.

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  • Bruncvik@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t watch others playing games, either, but someone who likes those streams told me he didn’t see a difference between watching good gamers play games and good football players play football.

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  • dev_null@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You never used cheat codes in GTA San Andreas and the like? It’s a lot of fun

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    • taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I actually thought about that after my comment and summoning a tank from nowhere was fun. At least for a little bit… but maybe mostly for the novelty of it all. Also I was like, 12.

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  • architect@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Can someone tell me how an idle game is a game? There is no game being played in one of those.

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  • Diurnambule@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Imagine thé thing you cook and guide a rimworld playing ia while making cookie then an horde attack you start yelling the cookie burn your base is lost.

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  • KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I was laughing along until you said “watching a stream (even without commentary)”. Yeah I’ve done that one. Sometimes I want to see what’s next in the game without spending 100 hours to get there ><. Also watching lets me mentally unwind, playing takes a mental toll.

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    • taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think we’re all kinda beat down by life, so I don’t really judge people on it. I just am not one of them, haha. (But I don’t even watch TV or movies much so I’m admittedly a weirdo).

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• morto@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The age of ai-generated streamers is coming…

  People and corporations will automatize all the process and turn it into passive income, and a lot of people will somehow watch it, making the thing profitable.

  I’m tired of all this…

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  • KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A Minecraft and Roblox streamer tried that a year ago, primarily as a pitch to investors to make a service for other streamers to make AI-generated content. His name is Kwebbelkop. This guy managed to make the laziest brand of content I have ever even heard suggested as an idea: An AI avatar reading an AI reaction to an AI-generated image. And I thought reaction videos were bad…

    I’m tired of all this…

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• MoreZombies@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How much legal trouble would I get for kicking a CEO in the testicles? it feels like it would be worth it if I ever met NVIDIA’s bosses.

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  • Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Depends, are you rich?

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    • mangaskahn@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Or remarkably good-looking?

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  • KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    None if you don’t get caught. They’re not going to do a full investigation if you don’t try to murder the guy. Also, look how badly the current FBI fumbled the investigation into Charlie Kirk’s killer? into Brian Thompson’s killer?

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    • yakko@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s crazy how much Brian Thompson isn’t even a name in my head. If someone murders me, I only hope they’re not so charismatic that when people try to remember me they just picture a beige balloon named John Lastname.

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• DrSleepless@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  AI will do all the fun and creative things for you so you can get back to work

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• samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I wouldn’t mind playing games co-op with AI.

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  • pogmommy@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ive got incredible news for you

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    • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Few games actually have that and even fewer have ones that play well.

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• BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Great, another fun thing the LLM craze want to take from me. FFS.

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  • mPony@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    that and the polar ice caps

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• db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Actually if they can use that to make good ai opponents for 4x games, it’d be pretty sweet

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  • Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Except you don’t need a neural net to do this, nor would you really want one for it because it would be incredibly slow unless you use the GPU to run it which might be a bit busy running the actual game. It’s like a “make game run worse” option.

    In game AI can be pretty sophisticated even without the addition of neural nets which could be OK with determining strategy based on player action, but really isn’t going to be good for the entire control.

    This kind of thing is only useful as tech demo for playing platformers and the like with the same inputs a human player would, basically more like a bot.

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    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In game AI can be pretty sophisticated even without the addition of neural nets which could be OK with determining strategy based on player action, but really isn’t going to be good for the entire control.

      Given that it has been the weak point in almost all 4x games in the past 30 years, I’d be happy if they give anything novel a try

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• bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why would I want AI to play the game other than for testing?

  Beat Elon in PoE

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t need AI to do that unless I am actually playing against the dude he pays to play for him.

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  • architect@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The bar is low i see.

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• SuiXi3D@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  …why? What’s the point?

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  • 6nk06@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Soylent green I guess. No money, no fun, no job. You’re free to die.

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• emax_gomax@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Bold to assume having an AI play the game for testing is actually useful. Given how buggy games release nowadays i genuinely wonder which companies still properly have play testers. An AI whose results you mostly ignore is pointless.

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  • thatsTheCatch@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I suspect it’s not a lack of playtesters that’s the problem, but harsh deadlines and crunch. That type of environment leads to tech debt to get things working fast, which leads to hard-to-manage code, which leads to bugs…

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  • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    An AI whose results you mostly ignore is pointless good for driving up the share price artificially

    ftfy

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• riskable@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  FYI: Stuff like this is for automated testing, not “playing games for you” 🤣

  Also, I won’t consider it realistic until it can type out, “lol git gud scrub” after ganking someone who just spawned.

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  • Dojan@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Makes sense. Upscaling and video interpolation instead of optimisation. Image generation instead of artists. Now this instead of actual testing.

    The 💩💩💩 gaming industry is going to somehow get even worse.

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    • riskable@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Good games are orthogonal to AI usage. It’s possible to have a great game that was written with AI using AI-generated assets. Just as much as it’s possible to have a shitty one.

      If AI makes creating games easier, we’re likely to see 1000 shitty games for every good one. But at the same time we’re also likely to see successful games made by people who had great ideas but never had the capital or skills to bring them to life before.

      I can’t predict the future of AI but it’s easy to imagine a state where everyone has the power to make a game for basically no cost. Good or bad, that’s where we’re heading.

      If making great games doesn’t require a shitton of capital, the ones who are most likely to suffer are the rich AAA game studios. Basically, the capitalists. Because when capital isn’t necessary to get something done anymore, capital becomes less useful.

      Effort builds skill but it does not build quality. You could put in a ton of effort and still fail or just make something terrible. What breeds success is iteration (and luck). Because AI makes iteration faster and easier, it’s likely we’re going to see a lot of great things created using it.

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    • Miaou@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This seems like a very good use of the tech. Fuzzy testing is difficult to do, and it’s all about scale

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• LiveLM@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Oh yeah? Go beat Talos Principle then.

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  • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I see what you did there.

    Zzzt!

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• realitista@lemmus.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Finally I will get through my Steam queue!

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• gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The ultimate conclusion to cheating in video games is literally thst having the robot play them for you

  Something is just wrong with their brains which allows them to derive pleasure from antisocial activity 🤷‍♀️

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• Kr4u7@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Botting just got a whole lot easier - now old bitcoin farmers can go back to currency farming in games. At least in game currency prices will drop.

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• IHeartBadCode@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Mom, I want an aim bot!

  But we have aim bots at home.

  The aim bots at home.

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• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Great,

  And I’m guessing like all gen AI, it would be mediocre at best and never reach the top players.

  Now all they need is a way to turn mediocre gameplay into money, surely that part would be easy

  Also, I don’t think they could use it for testing as there could be plenty of false positive or negatives.

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• SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ton of dead multiplayer games that don’t have bots

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• Zacryon@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Apart from games, where this can also be used for more capabable and behaviourally more “interesting” NPCs (including computer opponents or teammates), the used techniques can be transferred to robotics. Quite a cool architecture.

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• chunes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I could see this being useful for those with disabilities like muscular dystrophy. Maybe let the AI handle repetitive, input-heavy parts and take over the gameplay at key moments so as to minimize muscle pain.

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• TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I guess you answered it yourself, for testing.

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