Submitted 7 hours ago by themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world
I went to a pc building shop and the price of 64 RAM DDR5 was over $1000. I could have built an entire PC with price a year ago.
DDR4 is serviceable to me.
Here's some actual advice for PC builders - what do you actually want from your system? Nothing you say can be vague, you have to set up goals. That's the entire important note of PC building is what you're building it for and how long you want it to last for as in, how long until you're wanting to build another?
One thing I’ve run into is not performance with old hardware but missing features from the CPU/GPU. Think of tpm 2.0 requirements for Windows 11. There’s other obscure instruction sets that newer games and programs require such as resizeable bar if you want to run a local llm.
My PC currently experiences a memory overload if I play ~150mods Skyrim for more than 2 hours straight. I currently have 16gb DDR4, Gtx1660 Nvidia. My thoughts are that the graphics card is the weak link but those are still too big a ticket.
As (relatively) old as they are, midrange Core i5 chips from Intel’s 12th-, 13th-, and 14th-generation Core CPU lineups are still solid choices for budget-to-midrange PC builds.
I would be hesitant about obtaining secondhand 13th or 14th gen desktop Intel CPUs, since those are the ones that destroy themselves over time. There is no way to know whether they’ve been run on non-updated BIOSes and damaged themselves. I burned theough an i9-13900 and an i9-14900 myself. Started with occasional errors and gradually got worse until they couldn’t even get through boot.
12th-gen chips are safe.
I waited too long to buy a new PC. I thought the later, the better. And now this.
Well, Windows 10 support runs until October 2026.
Windows 10 LTLS?
I assume this:
securityweek.com/microsoft-offers-free-windows-10…
The tech giant previously announced that users can pay for Windows 10 Extended Security Updates to get patches for another year, but this week it revealed additional enrollment options, including free alternatives for individual users.
Specifically, consumers can pay roughly $30 per PC (depending on location) to enroll in the ESU program and receive security updates for one year after Windows 10 reaches EOS.
If they don’t want to spend money, they can simply start using Windows Backup to sync their settings to the cloud. It’s worth noting that Microsoft recommends Windows Backup for backing up files and settings before switching to Windows 11.
Another ESU option that does not involve spending actual money is to enroll for 1,000 Microsoft Rewards points, which users earn for engaging with Microsoft products and services, such as Bing, Xbox and Microsoft Store.
“ESU coverage for personal devices runs from Oct. 15, 2025, through Oct. 13, 2026,” Microsoft’s Yusuf Mehdi explained.
The normal Windows 10. ESU in the European Economic Area (EEA).
thought the later, the better
Well, usually that is true.
Why do you need a computer? Here is the AI on your smartphone, enjoy!
Not a hardware fix, but there’s memory compression. It sounds like Windows 11 defaults to having memory compression on:
xda-developers.com/little-known-windows-feature-h…
Linux has zswap and zram to do memory compression, which I’ve mentioned here recently. I don’t know of any distros that turn it on by default. It sounds from recent reading like for modern systems wirh SSD swap, zswap is probably preferable.
AI-Generated Summary:
• RAM and SSD prices have spiked dramatically since summer 2025, with some RAM kits costing up to four times more and SSDs doubling in price, driven by high demand from AI data centers and supply shortages.
• Industry predictions suggest supply constraints and rising prices will persist into 2026, making it a challenging time for PC builders, especially for DDR5 memory and newer components.
• To mitigate costs, builders can consider alternatives like DDR4 for budget systems, slower DDR5 speeds, single RAM sticks, or pre-built PCs, though compromises in performance or flexibility may be necessary.
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I don’t like that this was removed, but it is very ironic for a AI summary about AI hype fueling a RAM shortage. It was at least properaly labeled and attributes and an open source model.
What is the feasibility of getting a prebuilt gaming PC and using it for the parts I need/want and selling the rest of it? Anyone do this?
My old HTPC is running a Z87 motherboard with a 4770k i5 cpu with 16gb of ddr3 ram. It is chugging along. I had plans to build out something new in the same case but I don’t want to feed into this bullshit by buying now. The more people show their willingness to pay these prices the happier manufacturers and retailers will be to charge them. But I think it might get worse, too, and maybe not better. Ugh.
Whatever I build might be the last one I do considering how long I kept this one.
What is the feasibility of getting a prebuilt gaming PC and using it for the parts I need/want and selling the rest of it?
I’m sure that you could do that, but I think part of the problem there is that everyone else is going to be in the same boat, short of RAM, and I’m not sure what demand there is for a gaming PC stripped of its RAM.
If thwre isn’t much demand, you mgiht have trouble recouping what you spent on the parts you don’t want.
I read one article that CPU prices may drop, because the increased RAM prices will drive up PC prices, price some people out of the market, and so there will be less demand for CPUs.
That’s an interesting theory on the CPUs. Though it walways takes longer for prices to drop than it does to rise. I’ll be keeping an eye out.
You’re right that selling the parts may not actually be profitable or even recoup expenses. Though I was thinking I had a gpu that’s decent enough for my 1080p gaming so could sell whatever 5000 series comes with it for cheap and give someone a nice deal.
Is it time to start shucking mini pcs and game consoles?
anon5621@lemmy.ml 6 hours ago
The best we can do is just wait when price will fall down after ai bubble will explode
Velypso@sh.itjust.works 16 minutes ago
The ai bubble will never pop.
Safeguards have been removed from the market and too many rich people are balls deep. Prices will be manipulated and prices will continue to soar.
brsrklf@jlai.lu 6 hours ago
Probably but with all the idiots fueled by sunken costs and desperate to prove they were right to invest, it could still last a long time.
I built a decent PC a couple years ago, and I don’t need to upgrade often since I don’t really care about cutting edge. So I kinda dodged a bullet, but, this sucks.
errer@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Honestly the incentive to “upgrade” a gaming PC the past decade is really weak. Aside from a few AAA titles almost all games run just fine on old hardware. Particularly if you ditch Windows.
So let’s just all refuse to buy this overpriced shit. The same price increases have already happened to GPUs and gamers felt like they “needed” to pay those prices still, nah fuck that, don’t give these greedy pigs a dime.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
not necessarily with hardware though. now they are flush with investments and have holes burning in their pockets. they may artificially extend the bubble, but rapid hardware expansion will be the first thing to slow down or stop.
Pistcow@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Im going to get me a dual CPU thread riper server for $399 when the crash happens!