“I’m a Grok guy,” said Vance. “I think it’s the best. It’s also the least woke!”
What a fucking idiot. Really wants everyone to go back to sleep
Submitted 3 weeks ago by RandAlThor@lemmy.ca to technology@lemmy.world
“I’m a Grok guy,” said Vance. “I think it’s the best. It’s also the least woke!”
What a fucking idiot. Really wants everyone to go back to sleep
A third of a nation, who only recently labeled their political opponents as “sheep,” now vocally proud to be “socially asleep.”
The irony would be comedic, if the results weren’t so tragic.
Not haywire. It was specifically prompted to get that output.
It was asked leading questions about embarrassing topics, but the over-the-top, fawning praise for Musk was baked into the responses without being specifically requested in the prompts.
I think this is the main story. I don’t think it’s new info, but it confirms the issue persists: this LLM is so heavily trained to fawn over Musk that it doesn’t exercise any application of context or attempt to find truth.
Which is sad.
It’s really just an affirmation machine for tech bros
Yes, just some people figuring out that Grok was steered toward ass-kissing Musk no matter what, and exploited that for funny output. So the takeaways are:
This headline makes it sound like someone has doubts about Musk’s pee drinking skills. That seems a little judgemental. Pretty sure Grok knows his master well.
Pee drinking is somewhat impressive, but can he eat shit and die?
Of course he can’t, he’s too much of a loser to eat shit and die. He couldn’t manage it.
Eat shit? Maybe. But not eat shit and die? No sir. No way. I won’t believe it unless I see it for myself.
Didn’t Grok also claim he’s fitter than LeBron and smarter than da Vinci? Perhaps being an olympic piss drinker has been the key to his success.
Yes, different article, also on Not The Onion.
Didn’t read, but I suspect the LLM was prompted to reply in this way. Still funny, considering it is known that Musk tries to tweak it in his favor.
Although Grok’s manipulation is so blatantly obvious, I don’t believe that most people will come to realize that those who control LLMs will naturally use this power to pursue their interests.
They will continue to use ChatGPT and so on uncritically and take everything at face value because it’s so nice and easy, overlooking or ignoring that their opinions, even their reality, are being manipulated by a few influential people.
Other companies are more subtle about it, but from OpenAI to MS, Google, and Anthropic, all cloud models are specifically designed to control people’s opinions—they are not objective, but the majority of users do not question them as they should, and that is what makes them so dangerous.
It’s why I trust my random unauditable chinese matrix soup over my random unauditable american matrix soup frankly
You mean Deepseek on a local device?
Trusting any of that shit is the problem.
There’s huge risk here but I don’t think most are designed to control people’s opinions. I think most are chasing the cheapest option and it’s expensive to have people upset about racist content so they try to train around that sometimes too much leading to black Nazi images etc.
But yeah, it is a power that will get abused by more than just grok
I use various AI models and I repeatedly notice that certain information is withheld or misrepresented, even though it is freely available in abundance and is therefore part of the training data.
I don’t think this is a coincidence, especially since the operators of all cloud LLMs are so business-minded.
but I don’t think most are designed to control people’s opinions
Yeah I’m on team chaos theory. People can plan and design shit all they want, but the complexity will lead to unexpected behavior, always. How harmful that unwanted behavior is, or how easy it is to control or contain, is often unknown in advance, but invented things tend to develop far, far outside the initial vision of the creators.
(Spicy sauce: oglaf.com/gifted)
Why should we care about an AI tailored to that one person whom many consider a fascist?
Negative publicity is also publicity. Please let’s rather ignore this stupidity.
From the original 404 article:
And yet, this is of course an extreme example of the broader political project of AI chatbots and LLMs: They are top-down systems controlled by the richest people and richest companies on Earth, and their outputs can be changed to push the preferred narratives aligned with the interests of those people and companies. This is the same underlying AI that powers Grokipedia, which is the antithesis of Wikipedia and yet is being pitched by its creator as being somehow less biased than the collective, well-meaning efforts of human volunteers across the world.
You may already know this, but a lot of everydy people don’t. They still think that a computer can’t have bias, and if all these tech bros and business leaders are talking about AI then maybe it does make sense to replace our society with an impartial machine. This article is for them.
And with headlines like this, why the fuck do I care about any of the news coming out? This is so fucking ridiculous and stupid. Like come on. What the fuck are we doing in 2025?
Sometimes I like to find top headlines from other countries.
Like damn, your country’s biggest news today is that you’re replacing outdated lights with eco-friendly alternatives?
Must be nice.
Current headline in NZ. Talking about how the government is going to charge for parking at 3 of the countries tourist hotspots over the summer.
Bannon’s strategy: flood the zone with shit and steal as much as you want from the people.
People want this. Its sports to them, all entertainment and great if “their side” wins. Fucking sickening humans.
I dunno about you but I’m shumming whenever possible.
This is undeniable proof that Grok is the most accurate.
Finally some accurate information from an LLM
I mean, it is funny and all… but at this point, i’m just so tired of all this shit, I don’t even care. 😮💨
I miss my RiF keyword filters.
Piefed have some keyword filter.
…our governing hierarchy is just a long list of who’s blowing who, isn’t it?
it’s a snake blowing it’s own tail
How many resources were destroyed getting Grok to say Elon drinks piss? We all already know he drinks piss. We don’t need to waste precious resources on getting a robot to say it.
FYI entire forest was destroyed to bring you this critical information about Elon’s BJ skill.
Probably not that much honestly.
The resource intensive part is the initial training.
Tuning later is much less so.
Grok got new training which includes the Epstein files?
Aaaand now we know who “Bubba” really is
BREAKING: Chatbot says random bullshit!
BREAKING: bullshit generator generates bs.
In this case I’m inclined to believe the dumb llm 100%.
I guess every once in a while, even Grok spews out some truth.
A broken clock is right twice a day. A blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut.
Squirrels have poor eyesight. Almost blind.
How do you know the claims are false? Maybe the AI knows more than we do.
We’re gonna need to bring Bubba in to evaluate…
I can’t stop laughing at these, what a great day of shitposting
Well now let’s hear it out…
Humanity invented the assembly line and the first thing we did was have a huge war with the rest of humanity.
Humanity invented the atomic bomb, and the first thing we did was drop it on humanity, twice.
Humanity invented the Internet, and the first thing we did was figure out how to censor humanity.
Now humanity has invented AI, a queryable sum of all human knowledge, and the first thing we do is try to manipulate humanity with it.
I don’t really know for assembly line and the atomic bomb, but for internet and AI the first thing we did is porn.
sigh yes… and also porn. So, so much porn.
Well, theoretically you can use assembly lines for making dildos.
Haywire? That all sounds legit to me!
AI goes haywire and starts actually giving reliable information
I wouldn’t be surprised if this was true…
He’s one talented guy
Did it really go haywire, or was it actually giving 100% accurate facts and they are just claiming it went haywire? 🤔
I’ve got a question not related to the topic of the post: why is this site so often posted, when it has an ad blocker banner that you can’t just click a button to dismiss?
Why is this site considered acceptable? Do they generally do good work, and so people agree that disabling adblockers are worth it?
I’m just so used to sites like this being shit upon and posters linking them told to go fuck themselves and smarten up
Musk responded in a statement saying, “Earlier today, Grok was unfortunately manipulated by adversarial prompting into saying absurdly positive things about me. For the record, I am a fat retard.”
Damn, a self-conscious retard
I’ll never put foot on that hellhole again, but it would be funny if this was something he posted on twitter and grok showed up to “correct” him.
Sorry Mr. Musk, I need to tell you: You are not fat but healthily athletic. Your strength only compares to the strongest man on the planet: Donald J Trump!
For the record, I am a fat retard.
Well Elmo, that might be the first, and likely last thing we both agree on
After the posts were deleted, Musk responded in a statement, saying, “Earlier today, Grok was unfortunately manipulated by adversarial prompting into saying absurdly positive things about me. For the record, I am a fat retard.”
I have to hand it to him, that’s a pretty funny response.
Under no circumstances do you have to “hand it to him”.
Look, I can appreciate a funny reply from someone awful, OK?
I think they’re programming the ketamine into the LLM at this point
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m convinced the Amish may have the right idea.
cowfodder@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
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sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Ted Kaczynski wasn’t as crazy as we all thought
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No no. He was.
jali67@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Or when tech is in the hands of a select few vile men, it is becoming a net negative. It definitely is not for the public good.
peopleproblems@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Software Engineer here: computers were a mistake.
Quokka@quokk.au 3 weeks ago
Computers are great, it’s capitalism that is the issue.
smeenz@lemmy.nz 3 weeks ago
Discovering fire was a mistake.
clif@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Grok here: computers are fine, humans were a mistake
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 weeks ago
I’m going with the Luddites.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Fully agree with the class struggle aspect here.
Weavers destroying industrial looms. How would that translate to today?
ObviouslyNotBanana@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Specifically on the tech thing then. They have a lot of things wrong lmao
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yes, just the tech part.
knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Incest, rape, and animal abuse while dodging taxes?
kilgore_trout@feddit.it 3 weeks ago
Apparently they are over 400.000 in the US now. Time to join!