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Widespread Cloudflare outage blamed on mysterious traffic spike

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨tonytins@pawb.social⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/11/widespread-cloudflare-outage-blamed-on-mysterious-traffic-spike/

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  • mech@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Aren’t spikes in unusual traffic the exact thing Cloudflare it’s supposed to protect you from?

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    • brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Task failed successfully.

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      • BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Fission Mailed

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    • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They protected the endpoints. They just weren’t able to route traffic to them.

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      • mech@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        From a Cloudflare customer’s point of view, I don’t care if my site is down from a DDOS or a Cloudflare outage, but the latter seems to happen more often.

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      • Trigger2_2000@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, but just one “unusual spike in traffic” - so it seems. /s

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    • tdawg@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      ostensibly sure. But it’s like car insurance. People pay them no matter what so why bother doing what they promised?

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    • oppy1984@lemdro.id ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Traffic spikes, on the Internet? One in a million chance! Now tow cloudflare outside the environment and call it a day.

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  • gravitywell@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Image

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    • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Buying a car is pretty capitalist.

      I’m not envious and I like the thought of some places on the planet having it normal for one family to have few cars, but - in certain places where capitalism has already been disrupted a few times in history, like Moscow, Russia where I, eh, reside, am headquartered, dwell, roam, … - and those places are richer than much of the world, - people would think the guy from the screenshot doesn’t have many reasons to try disrupting it.

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      • NatakuNox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Wooooosssshhhhh

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    • locahosr443@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Amazon is now saving Americans from the crippling debt most of them seem to get into to drive a shiny box… I wasn’t expecting that.

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  • JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My bad, I started downloading The Lord of the Rings movies - Extended Edition. Sorry!

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    • tonytins@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How many times have I told not to download movies or games in the middle of the day? You’ll tie up the phone lines.

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      • cyrano@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Ok mum I stopped torrenting. You can use the phone again.

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      • dharmacurious@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I had fully forgotten the phrase “you’ll tie up the phone line!” And I just had a nam style flashback of sneaking internet time during the day when my mom was at work, and praying that no one tried to call

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      • ooterness@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Ten movies streaming across that, that Internet, and what happens to your own personal Internet? I just the other day got… an Internet was sent by my staff at 10 o’clock in the morning on Friday. I got it yesterday. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the Internet commercially. They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the Internet. And again, the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It’s not a big truck. It’s a series of tubes. And if you don’t understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it’s going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material.

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    • velummortis@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hey me too!

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  • Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Which AI scraper went rogue this time?

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    • VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Mabe the new bezos Prometheus?

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    • ggppjj@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Gemini 3 was released today : 👀

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    • eRac@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It was actually the system Cloudflare uses to catch and block bots that went haywire.

      They had a fake database you could query that would pull content from a bunch of different shard databases. They updated the config so that systems querying it could see the shards in addition to the main dummy DB. The tool that pulled data out of it assumed that it could only see the dummy, however, so it just asked for everything when it pulled a report to pass to the filtering system.

      The filtering system assumed the report it received would be properly formed and crashed if it got one that was malformed.

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  • melroy@kbin.melroy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I hope more websites will move away from cloudflare. I could not access 90% of the web anymore. This is insane if just 1 company goes down, the whole internet is dead. The internet is broken!

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    • mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      and it’s fucking annoying to check the box to “prove you’re a human” when trying to access almost any site. some days it will make me do it three times before letting me through

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      • melroy@kbin.melroy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I understand the need for anti-bot or DDoS protection, but there are better and free options today. Like Anubis. So please, in the love of The Internet, move away from cloudflare. Ideally yesterday already.

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      • modular950@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        next time you’re at bat against one of these, you may try moving less diligently / efficiently to the checkbox. overall, a slowed and less exact approach. I’ve not tested this enough to REALLY say it makes a difference, but in cases where I continually fail, going slower does seem to be the time I finally get through.

        I find the same for the picture puzzles where you select images that match or apply to the posted context or whatever else the mission may be.

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      • nyan@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It isn’t just annoying, it often breaks for people on less-popular browsers. Plus, it requires you to run Cloudflare’s Javascript. You think this outage was bad—what do you think would happen if someone slipped them a bit of malware?

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      • Reddfugee42@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        He still doesn’t know, guys 😅

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    • tdawg@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s almost like the internet is a public good that everyone should have access to

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      • Blackdoomax@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Internet is so fucked up and manipulated that people would be better without it.

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  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Did I miss something? Is everyone downloading the Epstein files today?

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  • themurphy@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s very normal for countries to DDOS each other to test their limits, and if it could be incorporated in an attack.

    And yes, of course the US is also testing this against other nations.

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    • TomMasz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Every DDoS that hits Cloudflare is bigger than the previous one. There’s bound to be one that they couldn’t instantly mitigate.

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      • MigratingApe@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Did Akamai, their competitor, ever blinked? (I don’t remember).

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    • turmoil@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This was a malfunction, not a DDoS attack. blog.cloudflare.com/18-november-2025-outage/

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      • themurphy@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Thanks mate, I edited my post for clarity.

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  • ellen.kimble@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Did someone google Google again?

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Probably pointed one Google mirror at another Google mirror

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  • verdantbanana@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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    • breakingcups@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Absolute bonkers speculation and it’s wild that it got as many upvotes as downvotes.

      There’s not even a hint of a suggestion that these two things would be related and it’d be a pretty stupid move to pull. This doesn’t hinder ICE that much and massively hinders many people all around the globe. Want to hinder communications? You’d jam ICE radios, not my muffin recipe website, (some) fediverse instances, and thousands of other websites.

      Go outside, breath some air, recalibrate. This level of obsession is not good for you and won’t help the good causes you want to help either.

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    • Acamon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Was there a specific event that coincided with the blackout? I don’t know the details of current US events, just that they’re crazy and depressing.

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      • db2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        We probably won’t know for a while.

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    • tonytins@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Why DDoS Cloudflare when they could just pressure them directly like they did with BBC or Paramount? I know this administration isn’t exactly the brightest but that doesn’t seem like something they’d do.

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      • k0e3@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I thought OP was saying people are resisting ICE by DDoSing CloudFlare while you might be thinking ICE (therefore the administration) is attacking CloudFlare. Either way, it doesn’t make much sense lol

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    • _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      why is it whenever I see you post, it’s something batshit crazy with a bunch of downvotes?

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    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You always have the most bizarre stupid takes. The creativity is fascinating.

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    • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They suspended access to WARP from London during the outage, so I guess the traffic was originating/hitting that location

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    • optissima@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is a much more positive view than mine, which is that AI corps are trying to make the rest of the internet less reliable to drive traffic to themselves

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      • 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        chatgpt and claude were both down

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  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “You see, half the internet went down because people used our services a little too much.”

    Ok wtf???

    How does cloudflare not have DDOS detection?

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    • tonytins@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That was based on anecdotal evidence, at the time. The real cause was Cloudflare shooting themselves in foot again because of a bad config file.

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      • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The bad config file is somewhere in the middle of the chain of causality.

        They changed database permissions, revealing a dormant bug in a database query, leading to config files being generated badly with duplicate lines, making them too large for intake by the bot detection service, which didn’t have good input validation and made the process panic instead, tearing down the bot detection service.

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      • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Lmao

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  • arsCynic@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Widespread Cloudflare outage blamed on mysterious traffic spike

    Just like my 14-year-old self who “mysteriously” bricked his parents’ PC by totally SFW Web usage.

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    • Strobelt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
      • Double clicks h4rdc0r3p0rn.exe right from limewire
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      • arsCynic@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Double clicks h4rdc0r3p0rn.exe right from limewire

        Quickly followed by existential dread after realizing what I’ve done.

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  • devfuuu@lemmy.world [bot] ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Capitalists: “All lines must go up!” … (Traffic line goes up a little bit) Capitalists: “Not like that!”

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  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    translation: we don’t fucking know

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    • Burninator05@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No translation was really needed. They outright stated that they didnt know yet.

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  • HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    When damn near every single essential service is built on the same infrastructure of tissue paper and chewed bubble gum, it shouldn’t surprise everyone when it collapses all at once.

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  • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    All the people trying to cash out their Dr. Pepper points?

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  • SHBI7368@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It was google. Chatgpt and claudeai were down so i said oh hey let me try gemeni. What happened that day? By coincidence gemeni 3 came out

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  • disconnectikacio@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Soviets?

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