Snake oil don’t sell itself
proof of wormholes
Submitted 6 months ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
WanderWisley@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Not full of crap, full of worms, brain worms.
PunnyName@lemmy.world 6 months ago
¿Por que no los dos?
RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Can confirm
LillyPip@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
And before that, it was all kinds of slurs I shouldn’t say. It’s been here forever, we’ve only developed empathy for it recently.
Hond@piefed.social 6 months ago
Nothing but to agree. But we are way past the point of facts. This fallacy implies just projection of your own competency onto morons who just dont care. Your enemy doesnt care.
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Nothing but to agree.
Cancer existed before cigarettes. Therefore "anyone trying to tell you that cigarettes cause cancer is entirely full of crap”.
But we are way past the point of facts.
Clearly, since this ‘meme’ is using some real bad arguments to try to prove facts.
merdaverse@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Cool, maybe next they can find a cure for MAGA
robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 6 months ago
TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
I … are y’all this stupid?
I mean I know dumb man is dumb and I don’t care to watch him speak but I don’t think he’s saying tylenol™ was the sole creator of fucking autism.
Just saying that like 60,000 other things, inlcuding like every other pain killer, that it can cause issues for the developing baby and thus should be avoided if possible.
Hell it probably wasn’t explicitly on the list mostly as it’s the least unsafe painkiller.
shalafi@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The argument has always been that autism is on the rise and they’re casting about for a factor. I think it’s mostly, if not all, a matter of better diagnostic tools and procedures. Maybe there is another factor, but not seeing them present any real evidence here.
Also, Tylenol is hardly safe. Had a friend blow out her liver, was in a coma for 2-months until she got a replacement.
Responsible for 56,000 emergency department visits and 2600 hospitalizations, acetaminophen poisoning causes 500 deaths annually in the United States. Notably, around 50% of these poisonings are unintentional, often resulting from patients misinterpreting dosing instructions or unknowingly consuming multiple acetaminophen-containing products.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK441917/
And who could forget the Tylenol Murders? :) It was a BIG deal, whole country scared shitless. I was only 11 but well aware of the whole thing.
Funny the event never comes up, but that’s why we have restrictive packaging. When I was a child, you could pull a product off the shelf, pop the top and remove the cotton wad, that easy. It was really weird watching the packaging change hit overnight.
MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“I think it’s mostly, if not all, a matter of better diagnostic tools and procedures.”
This is the winner right here. If you ask your parents or grandparents about people they went to school with who were “a little weird” or “really shy” or “really into trains” or whatever it is. It was all just undiagnosed autism. The percentage of people with autism hasn’t changed. The percentage of people correctly diagnosed has. And of course it’s a spectrum. In the past they only diagnosed severely autistic people. Now with more understanding of it, we realize that it comes in several mild flavors as well.
TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Yeah this all reads as “well fuck we said we were gonna have something so we’ll just go with this thing we already knew should probably be avoided but left as the only real option so we’ll say it’s that and not actually change anything.”
Now I am much more worried about is their “cure” that was “tested” and posted about in Feb of this year… on… one… single… 3 year old… who they fully doxxed showing that, incase it wasn’t obvious by n=1, that the study is fucking bullshit and not following NIH standards at all.
cm0002@piefed.world 6 months ago
That's the dumbest shit I've heard in a long time LMAO
I have no doubt that Tylenol isn't as safe as it's made out to be, but RFKs brain worms swung way too far in the other direction lol
RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Don’t blame me for his bullshit…it’s empty in here
parody@lemmings.world 6 months ago
We learned somewhat recently it can dull emotional pain
It was around for decades and decades then just some years ago researchers figured that out. Always much to learn, not from brainworm scammer though of course
stray@pawb.social 6 months ago
Wow, thank you for bringing that up. That’s potentially very helpful in some situations.
Specifically I’m thinking that it might be worth taking a preemptive dose prior to contact with a known trigger, to assist with exposure therapy.
shalafi@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Tylenol would be a prescription drug if it hit the market today. Had a friend blow her liver and lie in a coma for two months until she got a transplant. She was a hardcore alcoholic, and this is an alcoholic saying that. Doctor addressed the family and told them alcohol wasn’t the factor, the liver failure was 100% down to Tylenol.
OTOH, I’ve seen a lot of ignorant comments from people thinking it does cumulative damage. Nope, just don’t do too much at once.
logicbomb@lemmy.world 6 months ago
She was a hardcore alcoholic, and this is an alcoholic saying that. Doctor addressed the family and told them alcohol wasn’t the factor, the liver failure was 100% down to Tylenol.
That doesn’t sound realistic, that a hardcore alcoholic’s liver failure was 0% from alcohol abuse. I suspect that the information changed at some point in the process of relating it to you.
It was probably just that the Tylenol overdose was the immediate cause, and somebody took that to mean that alcoholism was not a factor.
Triumph@fedia.io 6 months ago
Tylenol is a brand. Acetominophen was created in 1878 (or 1852, depending on who you ask).
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
Do you think RFK knows this?
RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
That mother fucker is absolutely insane
Scubus@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Not to mention, this doesnt prove tylenol doesnt cause cancer, it just proves that tylenol isnt the only cause of cancer.
Obv it doesnt, but this argument is just bad.
pyre@lemmy.world 6 months ago
you fucked the argument lol
shalafi@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Over half of Americans read at a 6th-grade level or lower and our President speaks at a 4th-grade level. How many you suppose know Tylenol and acetaminophen are the same thing?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Ah!
There’s dihydrogen monoxide in my drinking water!
Ahhhhh!
kautau@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Just wait till they hear what big pharma is doing with paracetamol
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
That settles it, then. Obviously, autism was caused by time travel.
DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I fucked up some orgo im sorry
xylol@leminal.space 6 months ago
Every where I look there are orgies, now in time and space parties
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
Til autism was once understood as being the same as schizophrenia.
Quite interesting how the concept of neurodivergence is almost doing the opposite with respect to individuals who overlap on multiple neurological labels. Except it celebrates the individual uniqueness of their mind, needs, strenghts and challenges rather then generalising to find the one pill to sell to all.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Eh, I wouldn’t immediately believe that. OP is playing fast and loose with their facts in this post. The first diagnosis of autism wasn’t until 1943, so how did they differentiate it from schizophrenia in 1911?
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
Did a little digging and apparently the name was coined in 1911 as a symptom of schizophrenia.
mitch@piefed.mitch.science 6 months ago
I am autistic and I can understand it. When stressed, autistic people can exhibit disordered thinking or just naturally pick up on relationships and patterns that neurotypical people do not. We can also have the appearance of unpredictable volatility when facing things like burnout or abuse.
Especially in an era where mental health treatment was really just sending you you to a prison.
Maybelline@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
… or worms.
blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Paracetamol was first made in the 1800’s though.
Or are they just blaming a certain brand?
LillyPip@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Literally no Americans know what paracetamol is. Randomly ask anyone.
Americans know brand names: Tylenol, Advil, Prilosec, Ambien.
I’ll bet you could survey Americans and 999/100 have never even have heard the word paracetamol. Or zolpidem. Most won’t have heard anything but the brand names, and the brand names have been drilled into their heads by way of constant advertising.
US brands have spend stupid amounts of money making sure people think of their propriety name instead of the real name of any drug.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
I most certainly do because I’ve traveled a shit ton
RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I know almost all my meds by the generic names because I’m broke and that’s what the pharmacy will give me. Ibuprofen, levothyroxine, etc. Alprazolam.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Americans know “paracetamol” about as well as you apparently know “acetaminophen”.
They are the same compound.
“Paracetamol” is the generic term used in Europe and Australia. “Acetaminophen” is the generic term commonly used in the Americas.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I know several Americans who know what paracetamol is. Not sure it’s as rare as you think.
SolSerkonos@piefed.social 6 months ago
Nobody would’ve heard paracetamol, but you’d probably get some hits with acetaminophen. Not a lot, to be clear, but some.
shalafi@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The argument would be that autism is on the rise, not that it’s a new thing. I’m assuming this crowd understands the “rise” is from finer-tuned diagnoses. Hell, there may be another factor, but money says it ain’t Tylenol.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Direct from Wikipedia
Paracetamol was first made in 1878 by Harmon Northrop Morse or possibly in 1852 by Charles Frédéric Gerhardt.
The left has misinformation too. Science is on our side; there’s no reason to propagate this shit.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 6 months ago
blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
It’s always about money.
Wonder what the announcement will be? Wonder which drug they’ll push and which of Trumps cronies will own the pharma company
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You think these guys care about logic?
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
OP post is faulty logic, though.
As others had commented cancer existed before cigarettes.
Eq0@literature.cafe 6 months ago
That’s why it’s a good meme.
On one hand, if you fall for faulty logic, it seems legit. On the other, it highlights how easy it is to construct faulty reasoning
RaoulDuke85@lemmy.world 6 months ago
And also swims in crap.
58008@lemmy.world 6 months ago
There’s a 100% correlation between a child coming into direct physical contact with their family doctor and that same child later being diagnosed with autism. Show me an example where this was not the case. Family doctors are sporing autismomes like a tickled mushroom and no one is talking about it.
OpenStars@piefed.social 6 months ago
Not true! YOU just talked about it.
And now I am taking about it… holy shit, it’s spreading!
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 6 months ago
Delectable comment. I enjoyed every word.