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Brave browser blocks Windows feature that takes screenshots of everything you do on your PC

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Submitted ⁨⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨moe90@feddit.nl⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.neowin.net/news/brave-browser-blocks-windows-feature-that-takes-screenshots-of-everything-you-do-on-your-pc/

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  • MysteriousSophon21@lemmy.world ⁨26⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    This is about the Smart App Control feature in Win11 that takes screenshots periodically to check for “malicious activity”. its basically a glorified keylogger built into the OS. Firefox should really follow suit and block this too.

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    • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨12⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Holy shit, what a comment!

      This is about the Smart App Control

      It’s not, it’s about Recall.

      that takes screenshots periodically to check for “malicious activity”

      It doesn’t. Smar App Control does code validation and reputation check. Recall makes screenshots, OCR’s them and keeps them in an encrypted vault for the user to interact with.

      built into the OS

      It’s not, you can turn both off at any time.

      its basically a glorified keylogger

      It’s not, it fundamentally is NOT, because it doesn’t log any keystrokes. SAC isn’t even in the picture here, while Recall literally only makes screenshots, runs OCR and encrypts that.

      Fuck me, where do you people get this bullshit from? It used to be “oh no, Microsoft will be making screenshots of your activity and sending them to their servers” not so long ago which, while still bullshit, was at least in the same ballpark as what Recall does.

      Now you’re throwing SAC into the mix somehow?

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  • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The better option would be to not use spyware as an operating system.

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    • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Do you consider any form of telemetry “spyware”?

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  • Geodad@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Linux blocks that “feature” too…

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    • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      What feature?? Recall? That’s Windows 11-specific and hasn’t even launched yet??

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  • sfjvvssss@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    In this thread something I see a lot on lemmy is happening. Maybe someone can give me a hint on how that happens. The post itself is 90% upvotes, while the comment section is really anti-Brave (for good reasons). Do most upvotes come from people scrolling through without looking at the comment section and those with an opinion on the topic dive into it?

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    • Trihilis@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      The post itself is reasonable quality and informative so I find it upvote worthy. If a post is low quality or a shit post then I downvote.

      To me the karma system is about quality. Not an “I agree/disagree” button.

      For comments I only down vote obvious trolls, bigots/racism etc.

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    • onnekas@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I think you should not downvote a post you have a negative opinion about. If the post is worth to discuss then why should I not upvote the post and then say that I disagree in the comments. If we all down vote those posts nobody will see it (apart of those who sort by controversial) and there will discussion.

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      • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        If the software in question is bad, then I’d like to reduce visibility of the post while explaining why in the comments.

        Brave is connected to the BAT pay-to-surf scam. Its CEO donates to homophobic causes.

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    • Atomic@sh.itjust.works ⁨43⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Most people never bother to read anything beyond the title of the post. Let alone click the link to the article.

      Now, i don’t know how everyone sees up/down votes. But I always thought that content and comments that is relevant and promotes discussion is good. And comments that aren’t are bad.

      Rather than a measure of others opinions.

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    • nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨51⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      people just scroll around up voting headlines that they think sound good

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    • FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I’ve noticed this on political posts too, among others and I’ve wondered the same thing.

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  • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Brave browser blocks Windows feature that takes screenshots of everything you do on your PC

    As does Linux.

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    • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      OK, you need to explain to me how tf does Linux block something that works only on Windows.

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      • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        No Windows, no such Windows “features”.

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    • Krudler@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      You use Linux? Here take this you’ve earned it 🍪

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      • pirat@lemmy.world ⁨39⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        What if they always decline cookies? Or is this cookie one of those necessary ones?

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  • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I still have literally thousands of clients that use Windows and want support… for these kinds of things. Firefox has recently stopped working on a few things and Brave works better for me right now. It’s not convenience when FF doesn’t work…
    But I digress, Win 11 here and Brave. My choices, for lots of reasons. Lots of linux boxes as well though. Each to their own and all that

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  • rozodru@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    yeah, no, i’m not using your shitty browser.

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    • Electricd@lemmybefree.net ⁨56⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      It’s probably the best chromium browser out there

      Firefox has done shit too

      sadly we don’t have a lot of choice, but they’re one of the least worse

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      • kadup@lemmy.world ⁨31⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Firefox has done shit too

        Firefox has injected my URLs with affiliate codes?

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      • Dojan@pawb.social ⁨33⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Just don’t use Chromium unless you for some reason absolutely have to. Mozilla is just another corporation, but they’re not exactly threatening to monopolise the internet. Google is, and using Chromium directly aids in their effort to do so.

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    • vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      But it’s funded by an unrepentant homophobe! How can you pass on that?!

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      • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        An unrepentant homophobe who accused people who dislike him for his homophobic views/actions as being closed-minded and bigoted for disliking him over it.

        You can’t make this shit up

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  • zewm@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Literally nothing will get me to use this crypto scam of a browser.

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    • darkkite@lemmy.ml ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’ve used this for years and have never interacted with any crypto feature

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      • nokturne213@sopuli.xyz ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That you know of

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      • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They kind of just ignore that the crypto feature is opt-in.

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      • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Not interacted doesnt mean it’s non-existant.
        It exists and therefore it’s bad enough.

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      • alk@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s okay, it’s never too late to switch.

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  • blobchoice@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Unfortunately that would involve using the Brave browser, which is an antifeature in itself.

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    • yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Can you elaborate? I don’t use it.

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      • Electricd@lemmybefree.net ⁨54⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        They shit on it because just like Mozilla, they made some shit decision by making some shady partnerships, and because the CEO is transphobic/homophobic/can’t remember

        Apart from the usual bullshit and antifeatures it has, it’s still a great browser choice, just like Firefox

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  • SpaceScotsman@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They haven’t blocked the windows feature, they’re using DRM to interfere with it. Microsoft could easily change how the DRM works any time they want, rendering all these hacks useless.

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    • thevoidzero@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Exactly, how do you even fight with the OS except just making it bit hard for them lol. You have to tell the OS what pixels to put in the screen, there’s literally no way you can hide things from the OS if they want to know.

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    • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      People, ynless they are at work, can choose to use Linux any time. I will personally assist if needed.

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    • moe90@feddit.nl ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      then people can complained it on Brave Github or their official forum and it will be fixed by their team

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      • SpaceScotsman@startrek.website ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        My point was that brave’s solution, like Signal’s, is dependent on microsoft playing fair. If microsoft decides they don’t want brave, signal, or anyone else using DRM to interfere with their screen scraping chatbot, there is not going to be an easy way to fix it.

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  • arararagi@ani.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Sometimes bad people do good things.

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  • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Running Linux would block this feature too.

    Just reason sayin.

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    • Pamasich@kbin.earth ⁨40⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Tbf, anything that isn't AI Windows blocks the feature. Including regular Windows.

      People just need to not fall for the scam edition and they don't have to deal with this shit.

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    • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Switching to Linux made me like computers again. Switching to Hyprland made me love computers again.

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      • pivot_root@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Switching to TempleOS made me hear the voices again.

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      • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Same story here! Im in love with computing all over again because of it. Too bad many are tricked into thinking Microsoft ia the only option.

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    • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There’s one in every thread.

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      • AbidanYre@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There are dozens of us! Dozens!

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    • ohshit604@sh.itjust.works ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Running Linux would block this feature too.

      Keep In mind that you can still be captured by this feature indirectly, Discord for example certainly doesn’t intend to do anything to hide your messages, they recently went public so in their eyes more tracking the better.

      I’m thankful to have made a feature request to Element/Matrix asking for this exact thing.

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      • unconfirmedsourcesDOTgov@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Discord… Still isn’t public?

        They’re certainly talking about it but they haven’t announced a date yet.

        Having said that, element and matrix are both more privacy respecting so I do agree with the recommendation in general.

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    • AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Actually, Linux doesn’t block windows, it just isn’t windows.

      Just reason saying.

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      • thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Actually it does! When youre installing, just delete the windows boot partition and your done!

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  • timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Brace’s CEO is a homophobic Trump supporter. No thanks.

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    • hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s not even the worst thing about him. He also invented JavaScript.

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      • OozingPositron@feddit.cl ⁨27⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        That’s it, brave is getting uninstalled from my PC NOW.

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    • Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      He invented JavaScript, so definitely don’t use that either. For real. JavaScript sucks.

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      • bier@feddit.nl ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I used to hate JS but barley had used it. Now I use it on a daily base and hate it even more.

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      • nao@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        JS is difficult to avoid. Brave is easy to avoid, just use another browser.

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      • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Does he run/have power over JavaScript right now?

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      • hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ah, you beat me to it.

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    • szymon@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      He could be next husband of Ivanka Trump - I don’t care

      If he provide good service for me - browser which fits my needs. I would even send him money every fay

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      • OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        “I’ll support fascism as long as it’s convenient for me”

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      • technohippie@slrpnk.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s the logic of as long as it benefits ME I don’t care and I support them no matter what they do. This same logic has been applied to all the shitty things done in history like slavery, war and so forth, and the reason the world is way it is: Greed.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What does that have to do with the browser? Last I checked, browsers aren’t transphobic.

      You do you, but I personally refuse to make product choices based on the person who makes it. Brave is the least bad chromium browser, so I use it as a backup to my main Gecko-based browser. I’m not a fan of Mozilla either, but that’s irrelevant since I pick my software based on what it does, not based on the management of the company that builds it.

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      • Frellwit@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Brave is the least bad chromium browser

        It’s pretty sleazy. Ungoogled Chromium or Vivaldi are probably less sleazy, if at all.

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      • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I would not choose to use a product made by people I disagree with but leaving that aside:

        Is it the least bad? Why not degoogled chrome? Or chromium? Even vivaldi seems like a better choice.

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      • Engywuck@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Actually, I consider Brave the best (or the least bed…) browser on the market. Period. The fact that it isn’t made by Mozilla is a plus for me.

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    • HowAbt2day@futurology.today ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I need a better option then. What can yall suggest?

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      • gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Firefox

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      • captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Thorium.

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  • scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Brave 🤮

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    • Electricd@lemmybefree.net ⁨53⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      I mean Mozilla’s Firefox is 🤮 too… there’s no perfect browser

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    • Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Windows 🤮

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      • spizzat2@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        “feature” 🤮

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  • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Feature”

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  • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    A device that surreptitiously gathers information on a target is called a bug, not a feature.

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    • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      So, you’re saying that browsing history, in literally any browser on the market, is a bug not a feature?

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    • peetabix@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      More like malware

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      • aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        yup. how do people continue using Winblows :/

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  • Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What a title. Made me think installing the browser blocked the feature machine-wide.

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  • Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The sad thing is that you now have to protect yourself against the OS you are using. Feels a bit like in the movie TRON.

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  • Almacca@aussie.zone ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Can Recall not just be turned off?

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  • Flukas88@feddit.it ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Very brave of them.

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  • DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    People are still using Windows!?

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  • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This isn’t unique to Brave.

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  • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You might say that they are being so very… Brave.

    🎤 tap tap … is this thing on?

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    funny thing is ban evaders(the ones that make hundreds of accounts for OF or links) use it for its anti-fingerprinting which is useful against reddit(temporarily)

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