Does the UK have speed traps? Towns and villages padding their budgets by lowering speed limits just to increase speeding fines?
Emma Watson banned from driving for speeding
Submitted 10 months ago by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to unitedkingdom@feddit.uk
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly10x7pjplo
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Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml 10 months ago
echodot@feddit.uk 10 months ago
No because towns don’t get to set their own speed limits and also fines wouldn’t be paid to the town it would just be paid to the police in general. It all goes into a big pot of money for the entire country.
Technoworcester@feddit.uk 10 months ago
The fines go direct to central government rather than local.
UK isn’t as car centric as US and we have a (not great but better than US) public transport system.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 10 months ago
Towns and villages are funded by taxation and government grants. It is weird to us that your towns get to hire their own police and make up fines like they do.
Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml 10 months ago
If you think arbitrary fines are bad, you should look up asset forfeiture.
Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml 10 months ago
I always knew we had a lot in common.
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I always thought she moved things along too fast
CatpainTypo@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Thames valley police hate the car. I’ve been done a couple of times that way. 33 in a 30 for me last time, Really strict.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 10 months ago
Have you tried… learning how to operate a car?
mholiv@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I suspect you might be telling on yourself here as someone who didn’t drive.
People who go through car education and actually drive learn about system tolerances. Speedometers can be off by up to 10% and radar guns can be off by about the same.
If you actually drive and use cruise control set to 30 and go up a hill to a level section of road, the cruise control will likely bring you up to 33 before it reacts the reduced power needs and brings you down to 30 again.
Cars in real life are not exactly like they are in video games.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Interesting the cultural difference here. People arguing in favor of, or at least the reasonableness of, the law and its application. Americans regularly speed, 20+ mph over the limit is not uncommon. People would lose their shit over a driving ban in the US, and probably keep driving anyway. DUI repeat offenders and suspended license drivers are pretty common.
Revan343@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
and probably keep driving anyway
In much of the US, the alternative is lose your job and become homeless, so.
hughperman@mander.xyz 10 months ago
Higher incentive to not speed, then
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I had my license suspended for 90 days - due to a paperwork error when I was in college. I just had hope I didnt get pulled over at that time because I had no choice but to drive for school and work.
Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml 10 months ago
On top of being slammed with paying for high risk auto insurance for three years. That shit will break you.
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 10 months ago
Repeat offenders and unlicensed drivers happen here as well. But the use of cameras makes it much harder then the past.
But having lived in the US. Most of it has so little public transport not driving is impossible. Here it is doable in all but the most remote areas. Just crap compared to the 80s and before. It is still way better the most cities in the US.
LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 10 months ago
I wish we had better transit here. I hate driving but, as you said, have to because there’s no better solutions.
Are pets allowed on public transit in the UK/Europe?
catty@lemmy.world 10 months ago
But, but… come on you guys! She’s a feminist and speaks out for feminist rights. She can get away with anything and
womenfeminists laud her! She’s great!They’re (un)surprisingly quiet in here though.
rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Hahaha uh oh, there’s a nutter on the loose
catty@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Spoken like a true alcoholic. Don’t you fancy an ice-cold drink about now?
Horse@lemmygrad.ml 10 months ago
do fuck off you weird little goblin
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 10 months ago
mate, you forgot this:
💊
catty@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You really are hunting this down, huh? Next you’ll be shouting “it’s a hoax”
dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
You are crazy.
noMoYnks@lemmings.world 10 months ago
It’s a reference to another threat? Try to follow
catty@lemmy.world 10 months ago
They’re (un)surprisingly quiet in here though.
And they appear.
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 10 months ago
“She is in a position to pay the fine.”
No shit!
j4k3@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Millionaire ($85m) problems. Girl can pay for uber
mannycalavera@feddit.uk 10 months ago
I think the point is that she can but she’s still arrogant and entitled enough to speed and get caught… and then speed and get caught again.
Denjin@lemmings.world 10 months ago
And again, and again. 1st time is 3 points or speed awareness course (why would anyone not do it), then assuming she didn’t accrue points in a different way (bald tyres etc) it’s 3 points for each subsequent speeding offense and you need 12 points for a 6 month ban. That’s 5 times caught speeding in 3 years.
robocall@lemmy.world 10 months ago
38mph in a 30mph zone
Seems strict to me. but I’m not British.
crapwittyname@feddit.uk 10 months ago
She already had nine points on her licence, so she’s a repeat offender, hence the book getting thrown at her.
Conversely, this happened in Oxford, which is well known for being strict on drivers. She might have got away with it elsewhere.ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 10 months ago
Normally speed checks take into account that the car’s speedometer and the speed camera are off by a bit, always in favour of the driver. So whilst the violation might be 38 in 30, the actual speed was likely a little bit higher (eg 40-45).
GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
The amount you are allowed to drive over the speed limit is in fact 0mph (0 km/h for us Europeans).
Tolerance of violations of this is a sign of a deeply broken society
blackn1ght@feddit.uk 10 months ago
In the UK you’re allowed 10% (and I think +2mph) due to car speedo’s not being 100% accurate.
Akrenion@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
This is different in Germany but we learn about tolerance in driving school. Your speedometer can be wrong by about 10% and speed guns can also have errors. A good system accounts for unintentional speeding.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
How so? Its very clearly over the limit, its not like you can accidentally go around 30% over the limit. Plus don’t cars usually over report their speed slightly?
kogasa@programming.dev 10 months ago
it’s not like you can accidentally go around 30% over the limit
When that 30% is 8mph, yes you can
Pumafred9@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You can go from a 40mph zone to a 30mph on the same stretch of road. But there are signs well in advance to indicate the speed change. It’s quite common for the rozzers to be ‘sat’ waiting in these spots to catch those that don’t slow down in time.
DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
There’s a road going out of Southampton that’s 40, and has a camera about 6m before the point where it becomes 50. The 50 signs seem more prominent than the camera. I’ve always thought that was a bit cunty.
hitmyspot@aussie.zone 10 months ago
It’s common to get caught. It’s less common to get gmcaight lots of times. Particularly for someone who doesn’t drive a lot. Like wealthy people with drivers. She should sloelw down. Matthew Broderick too
OrkneyKomodo@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
It is. A lot of councils set limits arbitrarily low to frustrate drivers. It makes for easy pickings if you set up a speed camera or frequent the area with mobile speed traps.
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Better we get frustrated than kill people. If councils make money off of you being a brainlet then that’s a good thing.
echodot@feddit.uk 10 months ago
🤥
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 10 months ago
Speed limits are based on medical case histories on survivabilities. Sorry you think you have more right to live just because you go around in a metal box.
Flamekebab@piefed.social 10 months ago
Won't someone please think of the poor oppressed drivers!
monkeyman69@lemmynsfw.com 10 months ago
Prove it. Otherwise your statement is a lie/fabrication.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 10 months ago
30 is for built up areas. Also key is that jaywalking isn’t a thing in Britain. Pedestrians always have right of way and can cross the street at any point so in urban areas motorists must be prepared to stop at any time.
MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
My idiot sister racked up nine points in six months after moving to the UK. She claimed not to have seen the 40mph sign she blew past at 50. “They’re so small!” She only started paying attention when she realised she was one ticket away from a ban.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world 10 months ago
In America, we give medals for that kind of gumption, not punish it
/j (but only by the barest amount)
catty@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’ve been knocked down by a car doing 5mph. My head was in the bonnet and then I was on the road staring at the grill of a fortunately stopped car before my puny human brain could figure out what happened.
Being hit, even at 20mph, is not something you’d want, let alone 38.
Cherry@piefed.social 10 months ago
Yeh you dont get a ban for the first instance. This shows repeated offences. Lucky she has the money for a driver.
I have little patience for serial speeders. Gripe all you like speed limits save lives.
Noerknhar@feddit.org 10 months ago
Who cares
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 10 months ago
minor gossip.
not really interesting, but still content.
JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 10 months ago
61km/k instead of 48km/h. You’re welcome.
NickwithaC@lemmy.world 10 months ago
38 in a 30.
You’re welcome.
Pulptastic@midwest.social 10 months ago
There’s a road near my house that has sections at 30mph, 40, and 50. Most folks drive 45 on all three.
noMoYnks@lemmings.world 10 months ago
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That’s double the chance of killing a pedestrian if she hits one
Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 10 months ago
I dont find this too wild honestly.
blackn1ght@feddit.uk 10 months ago
If she was caught doing 38mph in a 30, then her car was probably displaying 40 or 41mph as the speedo’s always report you going a higher speed than you’re going. So I’d say that’s pretty bad, especially when you’ve been caught several times before in such a short space of time.
Lauchmelder@feddit.org 10 months ago
I do. Driving 61 instead of 48 km/h increases your distance to stop at an emergency by almost 8m. This is assuming 300ms reaction time. By the time you would have stopped at 48km/h you would still be ramming whatever it is you’re emergency braking for with 40km/h if you go 61km/h.
In other words, the child that ran on the street would be dead.
Speeding is no joke, please read about how braking distance scales with speed.