HumanPenguin
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- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 1 day ago:
Now it is impossible to decide if you are genuinely stupid or a troll.
Asking to reference a lack of ambiguity. After I have posted multiple explanations of exactly how the phrase aligned standards can only mean the standards used to produce and regulate UK food production must match. Yet you have not managed challenge a single one.
Yeah go shove your own head up your arse you troll.
- Comment on Urgent ‘do not eat’ warning issued for popular meal sold in Tesco and Morrisons 1 day ago:
Hence why I said. Warn folks about the error…
If someone sees a don’t eat warning. They will also see a potential allergy warning or contains fish warning. In. The same place.
So informing people of the error and refunding any returns. Is no more risk then the initial sale was. And also produces a little less food and packaging waste then this.
So save n humans. Or save the same number if humans plus kill the earth less.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 1 day ago:
You are asking for ambiguity
Eh
Yeah bad wording on my part. Sorry I’m working on multiple things ATM.
I ment you are seeing ambiguity that is not there.
As I explained else where. The rest of the media and even fararge in another news article last night. Seems to disagree that this deal meets any Brexit claim.
They see no abniguity in this meaning all UK food production domestic and export. Must continue meet EU equive standards to ensure less documentation is needed.
It has after all been the crux of the UK EU trade issue from day one.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 1 day ago:
Yes I am. Based on a whole history of treaty talks since Brexit where the whole topic was based on trading standards and how alignment was why we could not join the customs union.
Expecting a fucking news article to teach you the topics you seem to have missed. Is expecting ELI5
And you you did suggest a meaning, when you openly interpreted the article as a good benefit of Brexit. And stated that it said nothing about domestic food standards.
You were specifically claiming we had some form of double standard that applies to food we export and food we don’t.
Nothing in the article claims that. And I can assure you we as a nation do not. So you invested that meaning to make your rather pathetic point about the deal matching some Brexit benefit.
I made a very clear pretty close to ELI5 maybe 10. Of why I and the other poster was able to interpret the “aligned to EU standards” as relating to domestic sales. Based entirely on facts differing news have covered in detail while May and Bojo were negotiating.
Your failure to understand such simple points. Is likely why you voted Brexit.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 2 days ago:
Yet you fail to provide a clear unambiguous interpretation on what else alignment of food standards means.
Or exactly how it is even possible for our food standards to meet the EUs. Without it requiring domestic sales to meet those same standards.
You are asking for ambiguity in something you alone seem able to miss interpret. The rest of the Brexit crowd are not seeing this as a win for them. Just you.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 2 days ago:
Your need for an ELI5 is not my issue.
It’s not a confusion. Our standards are what we require folks to sell food in the UK. If our standards and the EU are aligned. You have to be pretty fucking stupid to keep insisting that dose not relate to domestic sales.
What the fuck else do you think standards aligned actually means.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 3 days ago:
Sure. But that is not the EUs problem. It is an issue with the UK. And not one we needed to leave the EU to fix. But instead agree on a party willing to change it.
The UK electorate has not been able to do that.
Much like most other EU nations got to vote on expansion of the EU mandate.
Our democratic leadership chose not to. So we again voted them in power so did get to vote.
The whole Brexit argument was based on UK government failure being pushed as EU issues. It sure as hell was not the EU as an org that lacks democratic ideals.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 3 days ago:
Yep they did.
Every nation in the EU is a democracy it is a requirement.
They elect there leaders. Those leaders send representatives to the council.
And citizens elect mep that approve or reject council mandates.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 3 days ago:
You mean the arbitrary climate goals Germany and all members of the EU made up.
The EU is not some nebulous org that doesn’t exist without it’s members. Germany was a huge part of the members calling for these goals.
As was the UK in absolutely everything brexiters complained about.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 3 days ago:
Yes it dose just not in ELI5 language.
Alignment of on EU food standards clearly states our own standards must math the EUs.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 3 days ago:
Thanks.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 3 days ago:
Reread.
Alignment of UK food standards. Means our own standards must continue to meet the EUs.
This is the only reason the EU will ever accept removal of documentation confirming the standards followed in food it will eat.
And exactly what remainers claimed about EU trade throughout the ref.
It is also the exact reason the US trade deals keep failing. Their food standards do not meet ours. So importing US food into the UK would mean deals like this. Where our food standards must align are impossible.
It really is not that complex. If your standards don’t meet those of the folks your selling to. Your companies are required to proove the items sold meet their standards not yours. Hence all the last 4 years of difficulties selling to the EU.
- Comment on UK should have an “exit tax” like Australia and Canada. The UK is an international outlier in not charging Capital Gains Tax (CGT) on wealthy people who leave the country 3 days ago:
Unfortunately the reason it won’t happen. Is it will be seen as also an entrance tax.
Discouraging wealthy investors from settling in the UK.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 3 days ago:
States it in the article
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 4 days ago:
Nope. We are required to keep our food standards equal to the EU.
So also on items we sell to ourselves. Not an omission at all. And the very point that brexiters kept arguing. We have always been able to sell to other nations using Thier standards. We are not allowed to accept other standards.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 4 days ago:
Yep. By following EU rules on the items we sell. With no control of those rules. Exactly as remainers claimed.
- Comment on Thanks to the american FPTP voting system, Nigel Farage could obtain an absolute majority with a minority of the votes 1 week ago:
Yes theoretically.
But then so could you and I. But ATM the odds of us being made a gov minister are about the same. At least for me. You may have won a few MP elections I do not know about.
- Comment on Thanks to the american FPTP voting system, Nigel Farage could obtain an absolute majority with a minority of the votes 1 week ago:
Def Possible. But given, such positions are political in a coalition. Again, the lack of power of vote risking party makes it unlikely.
I’d guess it’s more likely under a majority, where he gains a reputation for a specific subject. Under FPTP, coalitions tend to need to appeal to the multi MP parties to survive.
- Comment on Thanks to the american FPTP voting system, Nigel Farage could obtain an absolute majority with a minority of the votes 1 week ago:
As an independent under FPTP.
Nope that can never happen. He can only ever win one seat.
- Comment on ‘Massive’ increase in pensioner shoplifters in past year 1 week ago:
Not to mention the telegraph claimed source. A private security company. Conveniently claiming they have no documentation because their customers (the supermarkets) do not want negative publicity.
- Comment on Urgent ‘do not eat’ warning issued for popular meal sold in Tesco and Morrisons 1 week ago:
Can only guess.
But it seems logical that the rules would define contamination, as including any ingredients not listed on the packaging.
That said. Issuing an "Urgent ‘do not eat’ warning ". Seems like an over reaction. Rather than warning folks of the error. Returns will be refunded and listing the real ingredients.
- Comment on If Keir Starmer is willing to help Trump host a lucrative golf tournament, will he caddy for him too? 2 weeks ago:
Another way to consider it.
If the US is not willing or able to force there president to follow their own rules.
What duty dose the UK have.
Him running his own company while president has been against US rules from early on. Him using his political influence to push his own interests is unconstitutional.
Our PM allowing him to to help our own nation breaks no rules.
We are not responsible for protecting us democracy from itself.
- Comment on Brexit led to 1,500 deaths a year as EU nurses left UK, study finds 3 weeks ago:
Brexit was dumb.
That said this sounds like an overstatement.
We average between 550k to 600k deaths a year. So 1.5k is well under 0.3%.
Add the fact it is almost impossible to put such deaths down to 1 cause. They were after allin NHS care.
And it very much sounds like the usual press over enthusiastic support for a small comment in the data. Not something clearly identified by the study authors.
- Comment on UK Government warns British lawyers about possible american sanctions over advice to ICC in Israel case 3 weeks ago:
The US is run by a man, who randomly adds rarrifs to nations hebhas signed free trade agreements with.
No point worrying about upsets and sanctions from a nation that is totally beyond trust trade wise anyway.
- Comment on Reeves suggests UK-EU trade more important than US deal ahead of Washington talks 4 weeks ago:
And the acceptance that the EU is a priority is also acceptance that none of trump’s desires can happen.
Us downgrading to accept any US standards that are not already EU accepted. Means we will not be able to sign a simple deal with the EU.
As soon as we accept multiple incompatible tradeing rules. Trade with the EU becomes more complex and expensive.
And trump etc al have absolutely no interest in adapting to any standard but their own.
Besides this. Trump has already proven no deal signed with the US is worth the paper it is written on. Even his own deals signed with Canada are worthless as soon as he decides he doesn’t like them.
And we can never trust the nation not to vothe narcissistic idiots in again. The US is just not trustworthy as a trade partner.
- Comment on Trans women should use toilets based on biological sex, Phillipson says 4 weeks ago:
We awoke to finally find ourselves entering a little light. Then just as we were starting to celebrate. We forgot the folks in the back.
And suddenly those folks shouted grabbed our ankles and dragged us back into the dark brambles of bigotry.
The fear was more then they could handle. And our lack of far was more then they were willing to tolerate.
- Comment on Compilation of Protests Against the Supreme Court – What The Trans!? 4 weeks ago:
The protest need to be aimed at parliament.
While interpretations are grown to interpretation. Interpret the laws parliament passes is all the power the court has.
To prevent this requires the sovereign parliament, to word the law in a non questionable way.
The only way this gets fixed. Is to convince parliament to change the GRC law ro clearly state that suck operations make the recipient legally female. And to address the intersex issue by stating such people are the sex they identify with as an adult.
The actual science only matters if parliament chooses to make it so. Even then the law tends to apply to the science at the time of passing.
- Comment on 3D Printed Milling Machine Is Solid As A Rock 5 weeks ago:
Don’t give up so easy. Pretty sure it can be expanded to fit you on the bed.
- Comment on Librarians in UK increasingly asked to remove books, as influence of US pressure groups spreads 5 weeks ago:
Agreed.
But the issue is with both the words extremists and religious. No extremists thinks they are. Heck I can assure you most think our rejection is extream. And religiose people rarely admit their restrictions are religion. Even when using the Bible to justify shit. They will argue it is science or common sense.
Their is a need to term unacceptable laws in a way that forces them to openly argue their restrictions do not apply. Or actually are religious extremism. The latter is close to impossible.
Be honest with ourselves. I agree trans equality laws should exist. But only 20 or 30 years ago society as a majority considered them extream. Some off us remember it even if we disagreed.
Gay marriage was def extream when I was in my teens. Gary rights at all in my parents teens. (They also disagreed)
And a very small % of any of those considered their religious ideals as a significant element.
- Comment on Librarians in UK increasingly asked to remove books, as influence of US pressure groups spreads 5 weeks ago:
Unfortunately it requires our government to take a strong position. To actually stand up publicly and tell the people of the UK. We will not tollerarate this return to the fascist playback used before ww2.
Without that librarians and soon store keepers will constantly face the threats and attacks of extremists groups.
Much like anti abortion protesters try to intimidated those that disagree with them protesting clinics etc.
That is exactly what is being attempted here. Racism prejudice and fear for the future is being weaponised by the right. If our gov dose not stand up to the actions now. The attempts in the US to override the legal system etc will follow. Reform or a reunigghting of the people who support it will turn into a trump like administration.
We saw the start of this when Boris tried to shut down parliment illegally. The attacks on the echr are the UK equiv of the claim we saw leading up to trump 1. IE the supreme Court has become political. Gaining the power to take control. Our right is doing the same by trying to eject us from the courts mandate.