I may not like the .ml political stance, but there are definitely people on there that have non-political things worth listening to, which is why I haven’t bothered blocking them. They may have some good opinions on open source software and such. I just avoid their news community because I know I will disagree with them and their stance.
Maybe someday 😌
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AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
cm0002@lemmy.cafe 5 hours ago
The spread of Russian propaganda and misinformation is in large part the reason for a lot of the right-wing BS. There’s been articles and documentation of their Misinformation campaign for at least a decade now
“Russia, shit military, fantastic intelligence service” ~A lemming comment I read once but can’t find again
We should not be a party to it’s continuing spread
AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
Fair enough.
Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
They can always venture out of .ml. They’re much better behaved when they do, which is great for everyone.
electric_nan@lemmy.ml 5 hours ago
Time to change your diaper, OP.
yourgodlucifer@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
Nah .world would suck all by itself they have their own brand of censorship
cm0002@lemmy.cafe 5 hours ago
What censorship? I have documented evidence of .ml’s rampant censorship
If .world is doing their own flavor then where’s the receipts?
frostysauce@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
OMG nobody fucking cares.
jaxxed@lemmy.ml 7 hours ago
I like being exposed to opinions I don’t agree with and don’t like - it makes me feel like I am not just hiding in my bubble. I will admit that there are anti-capitalist threads in there that I agree with.
Taleya@aussie.zone 3 hours ago
There’s hundreds of instances you can use for that that aren’t tankie payops.
socsa@piefed.social 6 hours ago
This would be a fine sentiment if the feeling were mutual with the .ml admins. Their entire thing is aggressive censorship of ideas they disagree with, so if your ideal is free exchange of ideas, then you support the opposite of that by engaging with them.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
.world needs .ml else it would just become Reddit 2.0, just as boring and asinine, but without the traffic. .world is the kiddie pool… but not everyone knows how to swim, so it fills an important role!
cm0002@lemmy.cafe 20 hours ago
But your logic supports .world defederating .ml so that when a user is ready to “leave the kiddie pool” they do so by moving to a wider instance, like .zip
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Everyone needs a taste of anti-imperialist and non-Western takes, either for their sanity or just for their ideological development. I know Americans are gonna need them since the empire is coming home with full force, for instance. Without them, without ‘radicals’ like those in .ml, the folks will just be fed a new narrative to curtail their cognitive dissonance (it’s the most imperceptible of buzzes for the least cerebral among us but it’s still there) and they’ll eat it up because that’s all they’re exposed to. So, no, they should be connected, for the sake of exposure. It’s important too for those more .ml-coded to read, post and quickly check the downvote/upvote ratio in .world just like it was/is on big subreddits to get a feel of what the average literate Westerner, who at least considers discussion important (better than your average American, for instance), is thinking/has been fed recently.
Foni@lemmy.zip 16 hours ago
You can block it for yourself if that works for you. You don’t have to limit other people’s options.
cm0002@lemmy.cafe 9 hours ago
It doesn’t work, on Lemmy block is nothing more than a mute, and the instance “block” (mute) does not even affect the individual users of an instance, just hides the comms of that instance from your view
Lemmy’s “block” still leaves you open to all manner of brigading that they’ve been known to do
And it still allows conspiracy theories, propaganda and misinformation to spread and fester and affect users who are unaware
They literally have articles over there spreading the Russian propaganda that Putin is justified in invading Ukraine because it’s “full of Nazis”
Besides this is the Threadiverse, there will always be an instance with wide federation if you as an individual choose to open yourself up to that kind of “content”
calcopiritus@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
I can block .ml communities in my GUI. But I can’t block its users, unless I go 1 by 1. Blocking the communities is big, but not enough.
Foni@lemmy.zip 9 hours ago
I think you can block the entire instance, not community by community or user by user.
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What would you guys even talk about?
cm0002@lemmy.cafe 22 hours ago
Idk memes n stuff
Lemminary@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
bicker* :D
nerdschleife@lemmy.zip 21 hours ago
After lemm.ee went down I joined ml because it was the largest instance 😔
I didn’t know the backstory
FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
.world is Shitlibia so you did fine.
uuldika@lemmy.ml 20 hours ago
I definitely didn’t know how heated people were towards .ml when I joined. istg I’m not a tankie.
lepinkainen@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Quick, say something bad about Russia! 😀
Lemminary@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Oh yeah? Prove it, cowboy! 🧐
cm0002@lemmy.cafe 21 hours ago
Lol it’s ok, they do things purposefully like that to an extent to get that result. Like if you go to Lemmygrad or Hex’s homepage its quite clear you’re somewhere weird that needs further investigation.
You go-to lemmy.mls homepage and it looks like a normal “privacy focused” instance. Until you innocently comment in support of Ukraine or something and find yourself being dunked on and banned for supporting a “Nazi regime”
MITM0@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Just like how NATO is a defensive alliance
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
A lot of the people giving ML a bad reputation came over from Hexbear after they were defederated by almost everyone, I suspect the angry commies would just create a new account on another instance.
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 day ago
And? Better to let them have to engage as a normie instead of having an entire instance astroturfing their BS.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I’d rather they stay on ML, that way I can block the instance and never hear from them.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Honestly .ml and .world deserve each other. Sh.it.just.works too, most common in my blocked user list.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
What did we do?
BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
We exist.
Nah, probably because some people find the url funny and annoy people with that account.
cm0002@lemmy.cafe 20 hours ago
Be bigger than them. Probably see you as some sort of threat. They always shit on the big instances, I’ve seen Hex users refer to SJW as “Shit Just Stinks” before and they were celebrating the .ee shutdown. They consider .world some sort of right-wing instance run as a CIA/fed psyop
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 21 hours ago
came here to make the exact same 1st statement. .world is quite a bully friendly instance.
Just look at my modlogs from them. Feds through and through.
I know nothing irt sh.itjust.works
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 hours ago
Hah! Do you really believe this would make things better? (X) Doubt
Tyr_Raidho_Othala@reddthat.com 1 day ago
Yeah, Hexbear and Lemmygrad are instant blocks. For .ml, you either joined on the wrong instance or are too deep into communism dreams
Photuris@lemmy.ml 23 hours ago
Nobody told me all this when I signed up. I was simply instructed to pick an instance, and I did.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
Well, luckily, you can make an account elsewhere and not have people assume you’re an asshole because you associate (unknowingly) with assholes
Daemnyz@lemmy.ml 15 hours ago
I did the same, but I never had any negative interactions on .ml tho. The folks over on Hexbear are a different kind of strange, but harmless in the end, and of course you regularly read bullshit on all instances, but it’s just different tastes of shit, the ammount stays the same. After I switched from Reddit to Lemmy I started to encounter such a plethora of different opinions, it’s insane! :D If the deal is that from time to time I have to tolerate some idiot picking a fight about communism or Russia or Gaza or China etc., I gladly accept. One Thing you really have to give too all the tankies is that (on average) they are far more likely to cite sources for their claims. Do they do it so you can learn, or to smugly proof a point? I don’t care
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
This is one of the downsides to Lemmy, you’re expected to understand what the hell an instance is before you even use the platform.
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 23 hours ago
No. I don’t think a group of bad actors should kill an instance. We all have so many tools to ignore people or entire instances.
cm0002@lemmy.cafe 23 hours ago
.ml is the “bad actor” in this case for one, and for two, one of those tools is defederation. Nobody is talking about forcing .ml wholly offline.
Grad and hex are perfectly alive even with most of the network defederating from them.
Klear@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
What if the bad actors are admins?
FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Then .world would exist
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 13 hours ago
I think even then it’s easy for us to block them. This is why I really liked lemm.ee
I had the power to see everything. If an entire group was heinous, it was my choice to never see it again, not someone else.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
sky traffic? wow so cool
pinguin@fault.su 8 hours ago
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LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 17 hours ago
You sound like a communist. I hate communists, because they think we can just get rid of the state after we seize the means of production.
steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
Ugh ml users are the worst
RandomVideos@programming.dev 1 hour ago
Thats not true, lemmygrad and hexbear exist
tryagain@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
Jeez what’d I do