xkcd #3109: Dehumidifier

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• yucandu@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Meanwhile here I am installing ESP32C3’s into everything in my house to automate everything.

  I can turn on my floor heat, hallway light, or even open a vent from an app on my phone. And bonus, no shady manufacturers to spy on me. Just China.

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  • odious@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    that vent thing is surprisingly clever, thumbs up 👍

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    • yucandu@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hey thanks, I’ve got tons of cool projects and gifs like these, and I love to share them and read the comments, but I don’t know where to post them on Lemmy. I used to post them to Reddit but they started shadowbanning my github for some reason. Didn’t even find out until the ESP32 mod messaged me and was like “we can’t even manually approve your posts”.

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  • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I just installed motorized dampers in my crawl space using Shelly smart relays! Now I have an automatic schedule so I’m not cooling rooms that aren’t in use (like the bedrooms during the day and the lower level of the house at night). Already seen significant power savings!

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  • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It would be a lot more difficult to hide a backdoor on a bare ESP device, than a proprietary Tuya one, just putting that out there. Regardless, I still block internet access from my ESPHome devices, because I don’t want to feel like I need to constantly be on top of updates, that can cause things to break at times. I do them every couple months when I have the time to sit down and make sure everything’s still working, or roll it back where it’s not.

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Can you flush toilets tho

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    • yucandu@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I can do that but I don’t wanna - Bart Simpson

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• jballs@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I got new appliances a couple weeks ago and they’re all “smart”. Turns out a smart microwave just sends you a phone notification when it’s done. By default.

  As someone with multiple people living in the house, I can confidently say this is the dumbest “smart” feature ever. Promptly disabled.

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  • veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Any appliance with IoT is a value-subtract.

    They do it so in the future they can monetize you in perpetuity in some way

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    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I can see value in HVAC IoT. Away from home and there’s a cold spell? Turn up the heating so your pipes don’t freeze, but also run it higher when electricity is cheaper (if you have variable pricing).

      I don’t think I’d want my microwave, washing machine, or toilet to have IoT features though.

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  • rmuk@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Most people tend to stay in the same room (or a neighbouring room) when they’re microwaving something. They could probably save on the cost of having a full-blown computer with wifi inside the microwave by just having the noisy thing from an alarm clock. But, ah, the fuck do I know?

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    • kadup@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Some 90’s microwaves actually used some chips to measure humidity and using a little reference table adjust how long certain foods need to cook for, for instance, popcorn can be popped perfectly without burning and almost without leftover kernels if you can measure how much water is being released. The same goes for cooking frozen meats, vegetables, and so on.

      But what we get in modern ones instead are horrendous touchscreens, simple timers that never quite match the food they promise to work on, and Wi-Fi.

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    • lowered_lifted@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      a full blown computer, depending on how one defines the term, is so cheap that they are available in disposable pregnancy tests. This shouldn’t be a thing because of the E waste and inefficiency but it’s how things are.

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  • JordanZ@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My appliances are ‘smart’ but I didn’t bother actually connecting them to my WiFi. I guess preheating the oven remotely could be cool(?) but nah.

    The stuff I do use…

    The microwave above the stove can talk via Bluetooth(no app or phone involvement at all). Turn on a burner and you can set it to turn on the light and/or vent fan. Another nicety is being able to set the clock on the stove with the full keypad and it just syncs to the microwave.

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    • ApatheticCactus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The only smart thing I’d want an oven to do would be to turn itself off. That’s it, really. Did I leave the oven on after I left the house? Easy fix. Otherwise everything else is pretty much useless.

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    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Remote preheating sounds like a terrible idea. What if you mistakenly left something in there?

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    • jballs@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My stove won’t preheat, I guess because it’s a safety issue. Apparently you can set a remote start capability ahead of time that gets reset if you open the over door. But I’ve never tried it, since that seems like a lot.

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  • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How long are people microwaving things to the point where that is useful??!

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    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      if it don’t complete under a Tiktok I ain’t waiting!

      /s

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  • space_iio@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As someone who hates appliances beeping, I love push notifications I’m so tired at things beeping at me

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• ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ve looked into many WiFi dehumidifier’s and the one thing I wanted from it was to notify my phone if it’s full. None of them do that. All they do is let you change speed and stuff. Nothing that is important to me. I just want to know if I need to go to the basement and empty it or not.

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  • TeddE@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Right? Like half of what I want from these things is when is the battery low? When is the outbox full? When is the feeder empty? And metrics to verify the device is generally operating safely.

    Controlling the device? We’ve known how to do that for 50+ years. Help me maintain the device.

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  • LilaOrchideen@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I put mine on a zigbee plug into my home assistant (docker on nas), and created an automation to notify me when the power consumption drops below 1 W or so (lower than when it’s only running the fan when the hunidity is near setpoint). All local, works so far.

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    • tfowinder@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s really interesting, i was looking into Zigbee plug documentation, could not find if i can program them myself. Do i need to use their propritery app for whatever it does ?

      How did you integrate the plug into existing home automation system ?

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  • alekwithak@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I feel you, trying to find a smart gadget that is actually smart in 2025 and not just a data collector is nearly impossible. Learning to DIY a lot of these projects. Throw one of these or similar in there with a little control board set to email you if 0 changes to 1 or w/e

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    • ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I need to look into this and see if I can have it send me a text or something when it’s full. Another diy project to add to the list.

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  • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    aeotec.com/products/aeotec-water-sensor-7-pro/

    This little thing is a beast :)

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  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Do they at least tell you how wet your wifi is?

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    • ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Haha no they don’t which is why I went with one that didn’t have WiFi to save like 20$

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  • joenforcer@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Pet Wirecutter, Midea and Frigidaire both have smart options that have full bucket notifications. It’s baffling that they don’t advertise that feature in their product listings, though.

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    • ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Welp if they don’t advertise it I’m not going to buy it. I bought the “dumb” Frigidaire because the smart features they list are just turn on and off and fan speed. Why wouldn’t they list full bucket ffs. Oh well time to diy solution it.

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• pedz@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Do they have a model with AI?

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  • Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Shh shh shh, don’t give them ideas.

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  • normalexit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Or Alexa?

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• oyzmo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  But does it have AI?

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  • tempest@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You joke but my dehumidifier has an automatic comfort mode of some sort.

    I guarantee that next run will have that button with screen print AI something something above it instead.

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• NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I feel like I’d benefit from a smart dehumidifier.

  I’m on a Time Of Use tariff where my electricity is very cheap at night. I’d like to be able to schedule for it to come on for those 5hrs in the winter to take the moisture out of my shed-office. It achieves nothing to put it on a smart meter as you have to physically press go on the dehumidifier

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  • JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just use a power timer or whatever those devices are called.

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    • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They just said the smart timers/meters don’t work. Maybe a non internet one with some regular timers. I have grow lights that have 12, 6, or 3 hour timers that repeat the start time daily as long as a power outage doesn’t reset them.

      Lower tech solution that would probably work for them, but someone would still have to make it. Not sure if they exist but wouldn’t be surprised if they do.

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  • Shayeta@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Unless you have an even dumber dehumidifier that starts working the moment you plug it in.

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    • NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, I wish I did but alas not

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  • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just use a smart timer with a dehumidifier that either doesn’t have a switch, or has an analog one that can stay in the on position when power is off

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  • Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I guess you have one with a digital on switch? Because every appliance I’ve ever owned with an analogue power switch can be left in on state for things like this.

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    • NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yup, spot on, I didn’t explain it clearly enough but how you articulate it is better: it does indeed have a digital “On” switch so just giving it power doesn’t achieve what I need

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• PieMePlenty@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If I can turn it on remotely, that’s a good feature. I have solar, I want it to work when the sun is out and I’m producing excess energy.
  Yes, I know I can use other peripherals to do this (sometimes) but its always nicer if its just built in so I don’t need to waste carbon on other things.

  The only thing I want when manufacturers add wifi to these things is to appeal to open source principles like allowing us to connect to it and communicate with it openly and not tie it down to some cloud service they run.

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  • nef@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why not plug a dumb dehumidifier into a Home Assistant controlled outlet?

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    • PieMePlenty@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, this is generally what can be done. Disadvantages include:

      • having to buy yet another device
      • knowing which dehumidifier will start working as soon as it gets electricity. The ones sold in my country are all no name brands with little information if they will work or not and few spec sheets.

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• ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There must be some way to remove the “smart” controller from a device and replace it with a dumb one, like an arduino or something. I want to lobotomize these devices.

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• Simulation6@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I bought a washer that has wifi connectivity. It want to texts me or something when the cycle is finished and doesn’t even seem to have a ‘play a loud beep when done’ option. How does this make any sense at all?

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  • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My brother in christ, you bought the machine

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    • Railcar8095@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think we aren’t yet used to machines fucking us over in unexpected ways for that sweet sweet spying/ad revenue.

      Like, who would have asked 10 years ago “will my TV show extra ads?”. Now it’s hard to get one that doesn’t have them. And dishwashers are next

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  • jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How does this make any sense at all?

    I bought a washer that has wifi connectivity.

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    • Simulation6@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ok sure. What I really did was buy a new washer that was on sale and I got $100 off. Maybe I will have it connect to my neighbors WiFi, since they never secured it.

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• PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m still trying to figure out my network settings so that I can have my IoT one one network while still being able to access my home assistant from the other network.

  Unfortunately, my ISP is also my cable company, and I have to use their modem/router combo else the cable boxes won’t accept the cable signal. I’m using my own wireless access point (which also doubles as a switch for the handful of Ethernet devices I have), and it can split off a separate SSID, but that’s not really doing much.

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  • bulwark@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I have a separate IoT network. It’s basically just a guest wifi for IoT. Anything coming in on that network gets a VLAN tag and only previous & established connections can get out. Honestly, it’s kinda a pain in the ass with homeassistant because I keep HA on the other network so I have to manually find devices. It might be easier to just block it at the ip level or blacklist outgoing ip ranges to Tuya or whatever.

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    • c10l@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have HA on a separate VLAN from IoT devices and have set up mDNS reflection so it can find them.

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• MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I mean there’s heavy water

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  • mEEGal@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    which we already know of, innit ?

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• drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I work at a dispensary. In theory this could actually be helpful for my job.

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  • NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In theory the IoT could be made secure. -In theory.

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• ksigley@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There really is an xkcd for everything.

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