Maybe this is what it will finally take to get some of the bigger game communities off Nexus. It’s a decade overdue.
Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital
Submitted 1 day ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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sparr@lemmy.world 2 minutes ago
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
They’re definitely gonna monetize it to death.
Buske@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Nexus is dead, Start making a new one.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
venture capital
Aaaand it’s gone.
LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 2 hours ago
This is tragic. I have been on NexusMods since the 2000s. I learned how to mod games because of that site. I will be pouring one out for this landmark of a website after work today. Paid for Lifetime and everything, because the website made it easy to find, install, and update mods for any given game that supported mods. Damn, man. Damn.
NutWrench@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
I think the new owners will fark NexusMods to death and you should start looking for a backup site to host your mods.
ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
Pinky promise?
MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 1 day ago
Translation: “Once all the hub-bub dies down we intend to as slowly as you’ll allow, slip in monetization.”
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Yup we’ve never seen this happen before, not ever. Not once!
/s
MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 1 day ago
Exactly! No venture capitalist has ever taken something that could be monetized but wasn’t, bought it out, and then proceeded to monetize it into irrelevancy before…
einlander@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Just the tip, you won’t even feel it.
aaron@infosec.pub 8 hours ago
Well they’ve promised so that’s that. No story here.
xavier666@lemm.ee 6 hours ago
pinky-promise
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Won’t monetize to “to death”, just right up to the line of death.
UnrefinedChihuahua@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
Define "death."
- Some lawyer, probably.
drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
It’ll always be at 1HP from now on.
Atropos@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
'E’s only mostly dead.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Narrator: they monetised the site to death.
Lembot_0003@lemmy.zip 23 hours ago
… and beyond!
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 hours ago
Mod hosting seems to be a great usecase for torrent. It only need a suitable frontend and we are golden.
punkibas@lemmy.zip 17 hours ago
Someone mentioned this in another thread and I found it interesting:
Ckan kerbal space program mods
Apparently its a frontend for mods that’s hosted on github
msage@programming.dev 2 hours ago
Github, that’s limiting API calls, hmm…
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
Would a federated discovery frontend work? Peertube’s back end of the service would probably work great as a starting point since it uses torrents to ease up on traffic for individual servers
d00ery@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Seems like a good idea. I wonder if there’s anything already similar.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 21 hours ago
Hit me up with an addy when you’re on it!
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Ooh I’ll take some addy too. Been too long and I need to clean my fuckin house.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
Reminder that ModDB still exists, and works.
Elevator7009@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
link for lazy folks like myself www.moddb.com
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 minutes ago
Sorry, I probably should have included that.
I’ve been modding games and making mods for games since before Nexus or SteamWorkshop or anything even existed… I guess people just genuinely have never even heard of moddb these days, like how gamefaqs is an ‘ancient relic’ or w/e.
Gronk@aussie.zone 11 hours ago
Probably a good time to start up a rival mod site that every one will flock too after these guys backpedal on their word.
Something synonymous with Nexus… CapitalMods anyone?
ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
I miss Filefront.
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 7 hours ago
So, just half to death then?
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 6 hours ago
Just crippling pain.
clif@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Promise in one hand, shit in the other, let me know which one fills up first.
drmoose@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
As a software engineer i always found nexus simply archaic. Hot take but the molding industry might be better off with a new mod index.
hazl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 hours ago
Here’s how it goes with half the games I mod these days.
- Game not manageable in Vortex out of the box 2. Find the extension that makes the game manageable 3. All popular mods are based on one single mod that acts as a framework or SDK for those other mods 4. That prerequisite mod isn’t well maintained on Nexus, and the author recommends using $otherModManager to manage this game
pory@lemmy.world 19 minutes ago
The main problem in your setup is you installed Vortex. It and its prior incarnation Nexus Mod Manager have always been a thorn in actual mod developers’ sides. Mod devs can easily tell you where to extract the zip to, and what dependencies you need. Any load order manager type thing will always be better when designed specifically for the game you’re running. Having an “easy one click GUI!!!” doesn’t actually help anybody because modding different games isn’t a universally systematic process.
drmoose@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Funny how all of that is straight up solved with any package manager or even git itself (with submodules) for free and yet gaming community is protecting some proprietary burning heap of garbage.
Blaiz0r@lemmy.ml 8 hours ago
It should all be open source.
First thing is mods should just exist on free hosting providers for source code like GitHub/Lab etc.
Then an optional mod manager software that can import mods from these sources.
Non of this really needs a centralised community, these places already exist thanks to other better suited services like social media
SattaRIP@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Oh so they’ll do it subtly enough to think people won’t notice.
LostWanderer@lemmynsfw.com 1 day ago
Ah, so basically Nexus Mods is dead to me now. Whenever venture capital is injected to anything, it’s a bad sign. I wonder if those Venture Capitalists are from the crypto community…They’ve been souring a lot of potentially cool projects with blockchain/web3 nonsense, like Playtron, for example.
catloaf@lemm.ee 23 hours ago
Read the article. They are.
LostWanderer@lemmynsfw.com 23 hours ago
I did, and my worries were confirmed! I haven’t updated my comment.
caut_R@lemmy.world 1 day ago
„Trust me, bro, we won‘t enshitify, please don‘t leave and make something new elsewhere that’s out of our control.“
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Maaaaaan. Fuck. I really like Nexus Mods. Get ready for another enshittifying ride to the bottom.
umbraroze@slrpnk.net 8 hours ago
Ok, so what is the current alternative nice option for SkyrimSE mods?
Preferably one with a mod manager/download client. Vortex is kind of janky but it did the job. I’d prefer not to manage any of this stuff manually, like cavemen. it’s been decades you shouldn’t need to do that
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 8 hours ago
Preferably one with a mod manager/download client. Vortex is kind of janky but it did the job. I’d prefer not to manage any of this stuff manually, like cavemen. it’s been decades you shouldn’t need to do that
MO2 can do anything Vortex can, and in fact, Stalker and Stalker 2 modders prefer it. The files just need to be hosted elsewhere. A lot of modmakers advise against using Vortex to begin with.
umbraroze@slrpnk.net 6 hours ago
Oh, thank you! MO2 seems a lot more clean and simple than Vortex.
…and in related news, now that I’m redownloading everything for funsies anyway, I have graduated from trying to keep my mod lists on a website to scribbling a list down in Joplin. With links and everything. In case these mods I’m using decide to move from Nexus or something.
SolidShake@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
See all these free mods!? They’re just for you to use however you want to!! Pretty awesome right. Just enjoy this .5mbs download. Oh you want faster download speeds? Well… Sir. That will be $12 a month. Evil laugh
altima_neo@lemmy.zip 20 hours ago
Don’t they already do that?
SolidShake@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
That’s the joke
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
Tbh, unless you’re downloading a DLC size mod or a big 4K textures pack the installs are nearly instant
30p87@feddit.org 1 day ago
Fuck Nexus Mods. You already need an account to download anything.
Forester@pawb.social 1 day ago
A free account.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
It’s still an extra barrier. There’s zero point other than tracking what people do.
tal@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Well, unless someone makes an alternative, people are going to use it.
They do need to provide a lot of bandwidth, which isn’t free, though I wonder how viable it’d be for someone to create a Nexus-like Website using magnet URLs and BitTorrent as a backend.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
The issue with using torrents is longevity. You’d still want/need traditional storage backing it all. Don’t want some mod to become lost media because nobody is actively seeding it.
Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 1 day ago
There are JS based torrent downloaders. That would work for the normies to get files, but you’d still have to find a way to convince people to host files on the backend. It’d probably take a full-on desktop client wrapper with an embedded torrent client but that’s a pretty hard sell for the average nerd if you’re upfront, and probably a harder sell if you’re dishonest about it.
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
We all know how these things go, so I understand everybody’s fears but please wait to react until they make actual moves toward crossing the line. I remain optimistic about the site’s future, and the recent ways they handled user feedback as it has been changing in the last few years is evidence I should be
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 1 hour ago
I’m not going to continue to invest my time into an inevitable wreck.
forgotaboutlaye@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
I won’t stop using them because I (seemingly now foolishly) bought the lifetime membership, but I’ll be continuing to look for alternatives.
ICastFist@programming.dev 17 hours ago
I miss FilePlanet. That’s where I got my first Morrowind mods many years ago
At least GameBanana still exists, though there aren’t as many uploads there as Nexus. Still good that there’s an alternative
CalipherJones@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Does anybody remember Cheat Planet or is that just me
DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 20 hours ago
Jesus fucking Christ, they didn’t sell out to a fucking company! He transferred ownership to two long-time users of the site! There wasn’t even a deal struck, he just said “you’re the owners now!”
lime@feddit.nu 19 hours ago
how do we know no money was involved? both the new owners apparently work at the same company, which was recently created and is a subsidiary of a vc firm.
DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 13 hours ago
How do we know there was? How, exactly is one to prove that a transaction didn’t take place? Sure, he, the former owner, could say there wasn’t, but that doesn’t mean anymore or less than what he already has, which is that he believes the new owners share his vision for the site! And at least he picked two people who, to my understanding, have been around Nexus for awhile!
I’m not saying it’s impossible that Nexus enshittifies, and I understand that it’s been a trend lately, but this, as of this moment right now, feels like senseless panic that ought to be saved for when they actually do something wrong! I’ll join the hate wagon when they start brutally monatizing the site or taking IPOs.
Exusia@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Currently downloading everything to MO2 huehuehue
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
As an outsider to Bethesda modding, given how difficult it looks, I’m surprised to hear this isn’t already a thing.
ms_lane@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Modding community will never allow it, when Nexus allowed people to keep downloading old mods a bunch of authors decried it since they wanted the ability to remove a mod from the internet forever. It was ‘theirs’ (even though it’s just modified Bethesda data)
Gonzako@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
well wabbajack works with nexus (You just buy one month for free autodownloads) but I guess that’ll have to change
Exusia@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
I found a couple recommendation lists to “make the game look good” because I dont need all the fancy extras like body mods and weapons and grouped them together in load order, because I knew at some stage I could just package them nicely into a ZIP if I need to uninstall Skyrim for some reason. Glad to see I was ahead of the game
tal@lemmy.today 14 hours ago
It really depends on how one is modding. Bethesda does have their own mod site and in-game support for modding, and that’s pretty straightforward (and the only option on consoles). That will limit what mods are available.
I do kind of wish that there were one cross-platform open-source universal “game mod” program that could support multiple online services.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 16 hours ago
Time to cancel the subscription for fast download i guess.
Bosht@lemmy.world 44 seconds ago
If there was one god damned example of any company saying this and sticking to it I might believe them. But I have yet to be proven wrong. Sucks too as they were my go to for mods.