Narrator: they monetised the site to death.
Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital
Submitted 1 month ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Won’t monetize to “to death”, just right up to the line of death.
UnrefinedChihuahua@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Define "death."
- Some lawyer, probably.
Atropos@lemmy.world 1 month ago
'E’s only mostly dead.
drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
It’ll always be at 1HP from now on.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Mod hosting seems to be a great usecase for torrent. It only need a suitable frontend and we are golden.
punkibas@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Someone mentioned this in another thread and I found it interesting:
Ckan kerbal space program mods
Apparently its a frontend for mods that’s hosted on github
msage@programming.dev 1 month ago
Github, that’s limiting API calls, hmm…
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Would a federated discovery frontend work? Peertube’s back end of the service would probably work great as a starting point since it uses torrents to ease up on traffic for individual servers
d00ery@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Seems like a good idea. I wonder if there’s anything already similar.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Hit me up with an addy when you’re on it!
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Ooh I’ll take some addy too. Been too long and I need to clean my fuckin house.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Reminder that ModDB still exists, and works.
Elevator7009@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
link for lazy folks like myself www.moddb.com
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Sorry, I probably should have included that.
I’ve been modding games and making mods for games since before Nexus or SteamWorkshop or anything even existed… I guess people just genuinely have never even heard of moddb these days, like how gamefaqs is an ‘ancient relic’ or w/e.
SattaRIP@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Oh so they’ll do it subtly enough to think people won’t notice.
caut_R@lemmy.world 1 month ago
„Trust me, bro, we won‘t enshitify, please don‘t leave and make something new elsewhere that’s out of our control.“
LostWanderer@lemmynsfw.com 1 month ago
Ah, so basically Nexus Mods is dead to me now. Whenever venture capital is injected to anything, it’s a bad sign. I wonder if those Venture Capitalists are from the crypto community…They’ve been souring a lot of potentially cool projects with blockchain/web3 nonsense, like Playtron, for example.
catloaf@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Read the article. They are.
LostWanderer@lemmynsfw.com 1 month ago
I did, and my worries were confirmed! I haven’t updated my comment.
Bosht@lemmy.world 1 month ago
If there was one god damned example of any company saying this and sticking to it I might believe them. But I have yet to be proven wrong. Sucks too as they were my go to for mods.
atticus88th@lemmy.world 1 month ago
All the examples I could think of have been recent acquisitions… which means they just haven’t soured… yet. Sadly its inevitable.
Buske@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Nexus is dead, Start making a new one.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Easy to say, yet so far most of the other modding sites seem to be content sitting on their butts right now.
Building an alternative would take time. And some money.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Maaaaaan. Fuck. I really like Nexus Mods. Get ready for another enshittifying ride to the bottom.
drmoose@lemmy.world 1 month ago
As a software engineer i always found nexus simply archaic. Hot take but the molding industry might be better off with a new mod index.
hazl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Here’s how it goes with half the games I mod these days.
- Game not manageable in Vortex out of the box 2. Find the extension that makes the game manageable 3. All popular mods are based on one single mod that acts as a framework or SDK for those other mods 4. That prerequisite mod isn’t well maintained on Nexus, and the author recommends using $otherModManager to manage this game
drmoose@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Funny how all of that is straight up solved with any package manager or even git itself (with submodules) for free and yet gaming community is protecting some proprietary burning heap of garbage.
pory@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The main problem in your setup is you installed Vortex. It and its prior incarnation Nexus Mod Manager have always been a thorn in actual mod developers’ sides. Mod devs can easily tell you where to extract the zip to, and what dependencies you need. Any load order manager type thing will always be better when designed specifically for the game you’re running. Having an “easy one click GUI!!!” doesn’t actually help anybody because modding different games isn’t a universally systematic process.
Blaiz0r@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
It should all be open source.
First thing is mods should just exist on free hosting providers for source code like GitHub/Lab etc.
Then an optional mod manager software that can import mods from these sources.
Non of this really needs a centralised community, these places already exist thanks to other better suited services like social media
clif@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Promise in one hand, shit in the other, let me know which one fills up first.
Buffalobuffalo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Let me just use this promise hand to send you a pic.
30p87@feddit.org 1 month ago
Fuck Nexus Mods. You already need an account to download anything.
Forester@pawb.social 1 month ago
A free account.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
It’s still an extra barrier. There’s zero point other than tracking what people do.
tal@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Well, unless someone makes an alternative, people are going to use it.
They do need to provide a lot of bandwidth, which isn’t free, though I wonder how viable it’d be for someone to create a Nexus-like Website using magnet URLs and BitTorrent as a backend.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
The issue with using torrents is longevity. You’d still want/need traditional storage backing it all. Don’t want some mod to become lost media because nobody is actively seeding it.
Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 1 month ago
There are JS based torrent downloaders. That would work for the normies to get files, but you’d still have to find a way to convince people to host files on the backend. It’d probably take a full-on desktop client wrapper with an embedded torrent client but that’s a pretty hard sell for the average nerd if you’re upfront, and probably a harder sell if you’re dishonest about it.
SolidShake@lemmy.world 1 month ago
See all these free mods!? They’re just for you to use however you want to!! Pretty awesome right. Just enjoy this .5mbs download. Oh you want faster download speeds? Well… Sir. That will be $12 a month. Evil laugh
altima_neo@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Don’t they already do that?
SolidShake@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s the joke
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Tbh, unless you’re downloading a DLC size mod or a big 4K textures pack the installs are nearly instant
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
venture capital
Aaaand it’s gone.
NutWrench@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I think the new owners will fark NexusMods to death and you should start looking for a backup site to host your mods.
aaron@infosec.pub 1 month ago
Well they’ve promised so that’s that. No story here.
xavier666@lemm.ee 1 month ago
pinky-promise
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 1 month ago
They’re definitely gonna monetize it to death.
Gronk@aussie.zone 1 month ago
Probably a good time to start up a rival mod site that every one will flock too after these guys backpedal on their word.
Something synonymous with Nexus… CapitalMods anyone?
ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I miss Filefront.
LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 1 month ago
This is tragic. I have been on NexusMods since the 2000s. I learned how to mod games because of that site. I will be pouring one out for this landmark of a website after work today. Paid for Lifetime and everything, because the website made it easy to find, install, and update mods for any given game that supported mods. Damn, man. Damn.
Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 1 month ago
Same… this is the swiftest of kicks to the nads…
MufinMcFlufin@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Make it a legally binding contract, otherwise don’t bother promising.
Exusia@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Currently downloading everything to MO2 huehuehue
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
As an outsider to Bethesda modding, given how difficult it looks, I’m surprised to hear this isn’t already a thing.
Gonzako@lemmy.world 1 month ago
well wabbajack works with nexus (You just buy one month for free autodownloads) but I guess that’ll have to change
ms_lane@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Modding community will never allow it, when Nexus allowed people to keep downloading old mods a bunch of authors decried it since they wanted the ability to remove a mod from the internet forever. It was ‘theirs’ (even though it’s just modified Bethesda data)
Exusia@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I found a couple recommendation lists to “make the game look good” because I dont need all the fancy extras like body mods and weapons and grouped them together in load order, because I knew at some stage I could just package them nicely into a ZIP if I need to uninstall Skyrim for some reason. Glad to see I was ahead of the game
tal@lemmy.today 1 month ago
It really depends on how one is modding. Bethesda does have their own mod site and in-game support for modding, and that’s pretty straightforward (and the only option on consoles). That will limit what mods are available.
I do kind of wish that there were one cross-platform open-source universal “game mod” program that could support multiple online services.
Bieren@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’ll give it 8 months before it’s dead
ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Pinky promise?
ICastFist@programming.dev 1 month ago
I miss FilePlanet. That’s where I got my first Morrowind mods many years ago
At least GameBanana still exists, though there aren’t as many uploads there as Nexus. Still good that there’s an alternative
CalipherJones@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Does anybody remember Cheat Planet or is that just me
DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 1 month ago
Jesus fucking Christ, they didn’t sell out to a fucking company! He transferred ownership to two long-time users of the site! There wasn’t even a deal struck, he just said “you’re the owners now!”
lime@feddit.nu 1 month ago
how do we know no money was involved? both the new owners apparently work at the same company, which was recently created and is a subsidiary of a vc firm.
DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 1 month ago
How do we know there was? How, exactly is one to prove that a transaction didn’t take place? Sure, he, the former owner, could say there wasn’t, but that doesn’t mean anymore or less than what he already has, which is that he believes the new owners share his vision for the site! And at least he picked two people who, to my understanding, have been around Nexus for awhile!
I’m not saying it’s impossible that Nexus enshittifies, and I understand that it’s been a trend lately, but this, as of this moment right now, feels like senseless panic that ought to be saved for when they actually do something wrong! I’ll join the hate wagon when they start brutally monatizing the site or taking IPOs.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Nexus Mods is far too late on the monetization aspect. The restrictions placed on mod downloading sucks, and it hard pushes buying a membership. Not to mention they basically gave up on vortex and its a buggy mess even if you run it native.
GunValkyrie@lemmy.world 1 month ago
They gave up on vortex to make the nexus mods app. Which is pretty impressive so far. I would recommend reading the articles from the makers of it that discuss how they are making it and why. It’s really interesting.
I have been using the nexus mods app for cyberpunk and it’s really slick and easy.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I wasn’t aware there was a replacement that was suitable. I will have to look into that, thank you.
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I have a bridge to sell anyone who believes that.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Obviously they will. Years down the road. 🤗
MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 1 month ago
Translation: “Once all the hub-bub dies down we intend to as slowly as you’ll allow, slip in monetization.”
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Yup we’ve never seen this happen before, not ever. Not once!
/s
MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 1 month ago
Exactly! No venture capitalist has ever taken something that could be monetized but wasn’t, bought it out, and then proceeded to monetize it into irrelevancy before…
einlander@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Just the tip, you won’t even feel it.
LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 1 month ago
Shortly after we introduce monetisation so terrible, everyone hates it - just to test your pain threshold