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I’m scared to post this because people will interpret it as me being misogynistic. And that fact, IMO, is the biggest problem that men face. We’re not allowed by society to be victims.
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Submitted 3 weeks ago by kingpepe8006@sh.itjust.works to [deleted]
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tias@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s why I’m a feminist. They understand everyone suffers under the patriarchy. Especially men who are forbidden to show emotion.
tias@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Under some older meaning of feminist sure, but 90% of the people who claim to be feminist these days think of it solely as giving women more privilege, and any discussion of men’s issues is considered anti-feminist. Whatever meaning of equality that there used to be is all but lost.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’ve very rarely see that from feminist circles. And even then it feels like we can only have the emotions they want us to have and not the ones we do have.
Allero@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
I don’t like being associated with feminism for a single reason - not everyone agrees that both women and men suffer, and the blame is often shifted on men. Besides, it is originally about women fighting for their rights, not men, and at any point in time women can note that it’s for the women and about women, effectively shaking off the very men who promoted it.
We can do better by building a wider antisexist community. At the end of the day, all we want, as long as we act in good faith, is for everyone to be equal in their rights and opportunities. Women face sexism. Men face sexism. Some of it stems from patriarchy, some of it might come from other angles. We should come together not under the banner of feminism, not under the banner of masculism, but from the neutral ground if we ever hope to achieve a society that treats men and women as equals.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I agree. It’s kind of a tightrope these days. As a white, cis, hereto, middle-aged, male, I pretty much clock as the poster-child for privilege. I am palpably aware that crying loudly for any support might just come off as tasteless, or even insensitive in the wrong group.
Yet, a lot of our social ills these days look an awful lot like mental illness, which is poorly compensated for through evil, perpetrated by people that resemble this description. Zero social support means you just listen to Joe Rogan instead, while projecting trauma as hate.
This poster/meme might work better if it aimed for equality and that it doesn’t exclude anyone. Or maybe if it had a quote from research or some person of note about the silent epidemic that is men’s mental/social health issues.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
So can the meto movement include male victims now?
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This poster/meme might work better if it aimed for equality and that it doesn’t exclude anyone.
Who does it exclude?
kilgore_trout@feddit.it 3 weeks ago
Stay strong, brother. You are not alone
RedditAdminsSuckIt@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
stoy@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I wonder if this is posted in the correct community…
garbagebagel@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
HM maybe the wrong community but it’s an important message anyway. Men’s mental health matters and if we all cared more about it, we’d have a lot less issues in the world.
reactionality@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
Men’s menstrual health is also just as important.
Pippipartner@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
There is no men’s (mental) health month. It’s an attempt to set it up to compete with pride for June. It carves a perfect seperation, there is no argument that men’s health isn’t important, but riling up all cis males against all none cis males is perfect culture war.
dermanus@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
It’s an attempt to set it up to compete with pride for June.
That sounds very paranoid.
there is no argument that men’s health isn’t important
Read the comments in this very thread.
SunshineJogger@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
There are only 12 months.
There always will be a lot of overlap with all kinds of stuff people are trying to get into the spotlight of public attention.
Pride, men’s health, whatever. It’s all degraded into yet more fucking marketing with its monthly advertising channel called “calendar months” for publicity over which agendas compete.
Your very statement is making this exact notion more than obvious.
houstoneulers@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This link specifically mentions that NAMI considers mental health part of men’s health month. And if you think an organization that is chaired primarily by women and is a massive LGTBQ advocacy group (as they still have their DEI initiatives in place) supports this b/c they’re trying to sow division, you have an agenda not a credible argument.
CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Gay men are men too?
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
This is under shitpost for a reason.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Oh it’s like an all lives matter thing.
Why are humans are so shit?
Sunbutt23@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t suffer from suicidal thoughts. They’re my coping mechanism!
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Trying… fucking trying…
boonhet@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I thought men’s health month was in Movember?
untorquer@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No-nutting is bad for mental health. It was a bad choice for a month.
Notyou@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
I, also, heard of no shave November for people wanting to grow beards or moustaches.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
The anti-masturbation activists are another cancerous growth to be excised.
These quacks have been at it for centuries, creating and exploiting guilt around sex and then becoming polygamous cult leaders living of the backs of their pious sexually frustrated victims.
NKBTN@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
This YouTuber has created 4 astoundingly insightful videos about men. Patriarchal society fucks us up, either turning us into monsters or demanding a facade that runs so deep most of us forget it’s a facade. Even just articulating our feelings and mental health is a massive struggle.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pm5gX_wgic
Worth a watch by men and anyone who cares about men. And if you don’t care about men… well, that’s pretty typical of society at large, so don’t feel too guilty, but maybe you should start caring.
scrion@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
In the same vein, I’d like to remind people that feminism is also for men.
As a start, I think bell hooks’ The Will to Change can be a good intro.
MITM0@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No it ain’t, feminism is for women only
NKBTN@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Bell Hooks gets quoted in the video FWIW
Aceton05@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
#PRIDEMONTH happy pride, happy fight
bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Why shitpost? This belongs in a serious community where people wanna hear about serious topics…
FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 3 weeks ago
This community is a fucking joke.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This does more for my mental health than 99% of the people who claimed to be friends.
Dempf@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Thank you for this. I have been struggling the last few days more than ever before. Someday I’ll get through it. But that day isn’t today.
FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 3 weeks ago
This seems… unnecessarily gendered. I think these are things you can wish for everyone.
WhiteHotaru@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
The point here is the same as with „Black lives matter“. Of course all lifes matter, but blacks are underrepresented, as are men in mental health topics.
FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 3 weeks ago
Fair enough. I never felt it that way even as a man, but it might be cultural difference. This just felt to me like a “Bic For Her”-moment. But of course I do think mental health is important for men as well.
gerryflap@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Why have black history month or black lives matter, don’t all lives matter? Why have feminism, don’t all genders matter? Why aren’t cishets included in pride, can’t they be proud?!
These things exist to call out specific issues that exist for specific groups. Other groups might experience the same problem, but that doesn’t matter. This is for men and their specific issues. As a man we’re always told to just suck it up and keep going. To be strong. It was way tools late that I realized that I was allowed to seek help and feel emotions.
BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Point of this is to rise awareness that June used to be men’s mental health awareness month, to be able to live in harmony with men, but all changed when the LGBTQ community attacked.
peregrin5@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Maybe if you guys were better at gender bending you wouldn’t have lost the sexuality wars.
LordGimp@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
No it fits. Men’s mental health month should be gay pride because we all know it’s homoerotic to seek therapy as men.
loomy@lemy.lol 3 weeks ago
I agree.
The internet could benefit by being more inclusive ; especially around (mental) health.
Allero@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
In principle, I do agree; but sometimes we have to explicitly highlight that men (or any other group) are included, because it’s often implied that some group is not.
It could be helpful to look into stereotypes people of both genders face that stop them, in this case, from seeking therapy. One can call out issues women AND men (and nonbinary folks) face on the topic, thereby both being very explicit that everyone’s involved, but maintaining a balanced message.
Something like “Men, you deserve support. You don’t have to be tough”, and then “Women, you don’t have to be a neverending source of care. You might need help too” etc.
Katana314@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Let’s walk back and compare to a social cause that I think most people agree on.
Police violence is a problem. It’s a problem for all races, but black people have been disproportionately targeted for a long time, and are in all forms at greater risk. So, it’s fair to organize social movements around supporting that demographic to show they’re recognized and they matter; Black Lives Matter.
Male social isolation is also a problem. It’s been a problem for everyone, and loneliness affects all genders under modern social technological trends; but men are overwhelmingly gathering to movements that target their demographic and give them a sense of identity association. (Women and trans communities also gather to their exclusive groups to help identify their unique problems). Even if you don’t agree men are really victims, they can be warped into becoming perpetrators, creating more victims, if their mental health needs are not addressed.
And so, it’s fair to organize social movements around supporting that demographic to show they’re recognized and they matter; Men’s mental health matters. This of course does not need to detract from any other social causes happening.
peregrin5@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I think the main thing that is unnecessarily gendered is they are trying to push the “blue is the only manly color” thing in this image.
flandish@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
what about men who struggle with finances? i am shit with money. this qualifies as a shit post?
Coldgoron@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
What do I get when i get a hole punch for all six?
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Next trauma’s free!
ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Remind people to seek help, when someone is “joking” about ending it all. There is help out there, and it’s worth an attempt, before doing something final and irreversible.
In many countries simply telling your doctor what you are considering will get you help.
If talking to a doctor might be a bad idea due to your profession or other reasons. Then talking with friends or family also might help.
diffusive@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I used to check all boxes. I feel I don’t check any box now (even if I should probably do therapy for minor stuff here and there).
I also try to give back and talk with my friends or even strangers. Still it’s astonishing how many people live in denial and refuse any change in their behaviour.
FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 3 weeks ago
While I agree that Men’s mental health is important, I have to ask - why the fuck is this posted here? Like what even is this community anymore? I thought it was supposed to be for memes, but instead all I see is political bullshit, actual troll posts, and this off-topic stuff…rip this community.
Evotech@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Mens translates to «period» in Norwegian.
Which is pretty fun
MBM@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
Is this an old image or do people actually want to do a men’s health month in the same month as Pride?
Shanmugha@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Thank you. This is much appreciated
Capsaicin1337@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The thing is… Blue hearts mean something different now in Germany
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
See, THIS is a shitpost.
atlien51@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
LETS GOOOO 💙
LordGimp@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Is this a gay pride joke in disguise? Because men know it’s very homoerotic to seek therapy
houstoneulers@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
To my fellow men: ignore the gaslighters in here. NAMI endorses this month, and they are a highly regarded non-profit for mental health advocacy and support. I don’t think OP posted it here ironically b/c they actually posted the NAMI link outlining their support of men’s mental health.
Hope you all the best and take care of yourselves. Also, if you feel alone, NAMI has a search engine to help find support groups, meetup has a lot (just gotta expand your city search for remote meetups), always explore your insurance’s therapy coverage if you have insurance, and if all that fails, chatgpt provides some decent feedback and perspective without marginalizing your experiences like an asshole.
RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m for taking care of humans in general, let’s stop dividing everything into groups.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
A cat guy made this
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Wait, that’s a thing? Pfft what mental health?
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Maybe we should just do the opposite and encourage suicide? I won’t ever be able to shake the idea that if my entire gender in the US blew their brains on on nov 4th the entire world would be a better place.
Irs not like this is even a real thing anyway. They only time I have heard it mentioned is in a shit post on a reddit knock off
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
How is this a “shitpost”?
Numuruzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
It’s a glorious shit post. Half the comments will be support, half will be criticism, and the rest will be your sentiment. There is no way to tell who is being ironic on any side.
loomy@lemy.lol 3 weeks ago
everything on the internet is a shitpost
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
On this blessed day
snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Op doesn’t mean it.
CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
:(
zaphod@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Considering it’s posted here I assume OP is a shithead who thinks that men think everything is about them and it’s always men’s something day/week/month and trying to make pride month about men.
jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
i think it’s just here to reach a bigger, targeted audience
stebo02@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
because it’s actually pride month
Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Maybe OP posted it ironically
SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
It’s in numerous places.