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  • BlackSheep@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Seeing recipes from everywhere but the US, and Americans asking to have the recipe ingredients converted “for them”. Sheesh…

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    • lengau@midwest.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I saw a New York Times recipe once that called for ¾ cup plus 2 tablespoons of all purpose flour.

      They meant 125g.

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    • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, but it’s not obvious how many galoshes of diced onion I need when it says 100g.

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      • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I had a roommate in college royally fuckup a bunch of very expensive ribs we’d bought because the online recipe called for 2 cloves of garlic abbreviated as “garlic 2c” and he pit in 2 cups of garlic powder.

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      • ebolapie@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Honestly at that point just use the whole onion

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  • redwattlebird@lemmings.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ok, ok I may have a solution that will make everyone happy: let’s all speak Esperanto! One flag for all!

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  • Sibshops@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Percentage wise, more percent of the population in England speaks English than in the US.

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  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The British, when they have to click the American flag for English, and then they see “color” without the “u”:

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    • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Col-or what, that’s what I want to know.

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    • Raxiel@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We save it for u wot M8?

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  • jsomae@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t like using country flags for languages. For one thing, not every language has a country of its own – there are 700+ languages in use today, but <200 countries. Many languages don’t even have any obvious insignia to use with them.

    If you’re making a piece of software and you want it ported to many languages, just use text to represent the language.

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    • anachrohack@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      America has one of the largest Spanish speaking populations in the world, so in future web applications I will use the American flag to indicate Spanish, for the lulza

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    • Dicska@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Bonus points from TTS users.

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  • Enzy@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Speak native american!!

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  • Etterra@discuss.online ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The US has more native English speakers than the next 3 countries combined. England is 5th on the list. By volume alone, our way is the correct one.

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    • SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There’s several people that have commented this, and it doesn’t make any sense. It’s called English cause it was invented in England, a country which still exists. There’s also a few claims we changed our language, we didn’t (Posh people created Received Pronunciation. American exceptionalism at its finest.

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      • LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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  • FourWaveforms@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “hmm… this isn’t the right country but let’s roll the dice and see what happens”

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    • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I did that with a game I installed and couldn’t figure out how to fix it. So I just uninstalled the game and tried again…

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  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The unnecessary "u"s haunt us

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    • umbraroze@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      At this point point, people who speak English as second language usually go “awww, how cute, the native speakers really think this is the biggest controversy of English orthography.”

      (Instead of, you know, everything.)

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      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Its more just the easily memable one.

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      • Rooty@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sobs quietly

        I just want a consistent spelling system.

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    • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Or in American …

      The nnecessary ""s hant s.

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    • BodilessGaze@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I woke up screaming last night because I dreamed I went to grab my colored pencils and they said “colour” on the box

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  • epicstove@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    When I was visiting Paris, a tour bus we got on had a audio guide, the languages were all labeled with national flags.

    English -> UK flag French -> flag of France Spanish -> Flag of Spain Portuguese -> Flag of Brazil

    Even in Europe Portugal plays second fiddle for it’s own language

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    • LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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      • justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes, but the guys who made the guide (I mean the developers who assigned each audio track a flag, not the ones recording the audio) might not. I guess that might not even been developed in France and nobody cared enough to fix the bug.

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  • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I wish there were some internationally recognized symbols to represent languages as distinct entities from their countries of origin, but the idea of trying to make some seems really unpopular for some reason.

    There’s other languages that have far more politically contentious flags representing them - at least all the English-speaking countries are broadly allies. Spare a thought for the Taiwanese who have to select a People’s Republic of China flag, even though the language is as much theirs as it is the PRC’s, or the large number of Russian-speaking native Ukrainians who have to select the flag of the country who’s bombing them and their families.

    The notion of a country owning a language is fraught with toxicity (indeed, Russia’s claim to vast swathes of Ukraine leans heavily on it), and if languages had their own flags we could sidestep the whole issue.

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    • epicstove@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      French has the fleur De lies which, although it was a symbol of French royalty is still used on the flag of Quebec and some places in Canada identify the French language option with the flag of Quebec.

      Realistically, the best option would just be a shorted abbreviation of the language in that language. Ex. Eng for English and deu for German

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      • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There is a set of ISO codes for each language, but it’s not catchy used as an icon, and are also implicitly Western-centric by virtue of using the Latin alphabet.

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  • Biyoo@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I replaced the US flag with a UK one on my website for this reason x)

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    • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      As an American who does web development, “You guys have multiple languages on your websites?”

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  • javiwhite@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    As a Brit I feel like I’m going to have a cardiac arrest from cholesterol buildup every time I have to click the cheeseburger flag; so I can appreciate where they’re coming from.

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  • moopet@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Languages and nationalities are not a one-to-one match anyway. What would you expect from a Canadian flag? French, or English? The USA has NO official language, so that makes even less sense.

    I wish people would stop trying to replace words with cute little images.

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  • Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Brit here it’s our laugauge don’t like it? Get your own instead of spelling ours wrong

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      350 million Americans, 70 million British.

      Your minority opinion is noted but outvoted, micronation.

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      • redwattlebird@lemmings.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Hmmmm yes but the average American reads at a grade 6 level, so I daresay UK beats USA there.

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      • Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Colony

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    • Grazed@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Canadian here. Choosing between UK English and US English feels like choosing between an abusive father and abusive husband.

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      • nthavoc@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What’s all that aboot?

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      • Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        We are a reformed crazy dad we are trying to be part of your life but we’re still drama

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  • Event_Horizon@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    As an Aussie it really grinds my gears that office defaults to American spelling. And even after I change the dictionary to Australian or UK english it still continues to insert ‘z’ into words. It’s colonise, not colonize!

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    • FourWaveforms@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How do you pronounce that word

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      • Ziglin@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Haben Sie schonmal von germanischen Sprachen gehört, wo ein ‘S’ duraus so wie englisches ‘Z’ klingen kann?

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    • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I thought in Aus and other international areas the Z was considered correct spelling, even though most of the rest follows British convention?

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      • Event_Horizon@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Australia follows British conventions. However both spellings are correct and there has been a rise in ‘z’ over the past few years with American influence.

        All government websites etc use British spelling.

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  • redwattlebird@lemmings.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The way ‘herbs’ or ‘erbs’ (as some pronounce it) drives me absolutely nuts.

    Also, ‘mirror’ where it sounds like ‘meer’ drives me nuts.

    I definitely prefer British English. Love reading the old Agatha Christie books. E.g. “My word!” The colonel ejaculated, “I do believe that she’s dead!”

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    • SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That “meer” thing has to do with where you are in America. Same with words like “roof” or “pecan”.

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      • redwattlebird@lemmings.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yep, I’m not doubting that.

        I have to say, though, my most favourite American accent is the Minnesota one. Fargo helped make it all sound very endearing. Unsure how they pronounce mirror. Perhaps it’s ‘meer’.

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    • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In the Black Panther they talk about the “heart-shaped 'erb,” and it sounds so strange to me, I always think it should then be “'art-shaped 'erb!”

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      • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Wakanda is a high-tech nation hidden in the jungles of the East Riding.

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  • stebo02@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    it’s worse when it’s an American flag because I’m always looking for the British one

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    • Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      British English is the OG English. They should always use that flag.

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      • Squirrelanna@lemmynsfw.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well if we want get technical it’s roots are in Germany, Denmark and the Netherlands.

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      • Squirrelanna@lemmynsfw.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Old English would like to have a word.

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      • stebo02@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        yeah otherwise you might as well use the Australian flag or whatever

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  • kamen@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Traditional English vs Simplified English. I won’t tell you which is which.

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    • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ah, one more way in which post-colonial America and Mao’s China are similar.

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    • DmMacniel@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Traditional English vs Yankee English.

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  • Tungsten5@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I just hit the back button. You won’t catch me disrespecting the motherland like that

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  • AtariDump@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ok, it’s driving me crazy.

    Who is that? The actor, not the character they’re playing.

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    • owsei@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Lin-Manual Miranda

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      • AtariDump@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I thought so, thanks!

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  • nthavoc@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There’s no U in color. FIGHT ME!

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    • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We did. Famously we lost and you got to go your own way and stop paying us taxes.

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    • Honytawk@feddit.nl ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There isn’t an I either.

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      • bampop@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There’s no I in denial

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    • Zip2@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes there is. And American English had it too before it was removed because the population needed it simplified.

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    • scheep@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      phonetically it should really be “colur”, so I think “colour” is a decent compromise

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      • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        ‘kulla’, or ‘kullar’ for the Americans

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    • smeenz@lemmy.nz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What flavour of English do you and your colourful neighbours prefer ?

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      • nthavoc@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The spicy kind.

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  • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    As opposed to everyone else when they have to click the US flag to get English language options

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    • TranslateErr0rs@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There is no U in “Boston Tea Party” either.

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      • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Bouston Teua Puarty

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  • NateNate60@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Scottish people having to click on a British flag knowing it will display English (there is a perfectly good flag for England that people refuse to use 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿)

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    • SassyRamen@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ami: isn’t that the red cross flag?

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  • RandoMcRanderton@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We alsou have to start adding randoum U’s in places that nourmally only have O’s.

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  • Siegfried@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    English (simplified) or spanglish? I’ll let americans decide which is better

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  • Freshparsnip@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    One of these days Trump is gonna sue the UK for speaking the American language

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  • Thorry84@feddit.nl ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The whole concept of multilingual websites is foreign to Americans. There is only one language in their mind.

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  • WanderingThoughts@europe.pub ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A tourist wanted since directions so he asked: "Sorry, do you speak American.’

    My buddy who can be a purist: “I understand American but I speak English.”

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  • Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why use many word when few word do.

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