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  • jsomae@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t like using country flags for languages. For one thing, not every language has a country of its own – there are 700+ languages in use today, but <200 countries. Many languages don’t even have any obvious insignia to use with them.

    If you’re making a piece of software and you want it ported to many languages, just use text to represent the language.

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    • Dicska@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Bonus points from TTS users.

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  • Enzy@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Speak native american!!

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  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    🇬🇧 English (Traditional)
    🇺🇸 English (Simplified)

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    • fylkenny@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      🇮🇪 English (EU)

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      • stebo02@sopuli.xyz ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        🇦🇺 ɥsᴉlƃuƎ

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      • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Shots fired.

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      • lime@feddit.nu ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        i recently got the recommendation to switch locale to ireland in order to get normal date formatting. worked very well.

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      • MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’d never know that’s English

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    • ExtantHuman@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Except American English is the traditional. England kept fucking with their language and spelling, and now everything has 6 unnecessary vowels

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      • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        en.wikipedia.org/…/American_and_British_English_s…
        en.wikipedia.org/…/American_and_British_English_s…

        Webster’s 1828 dictionary had only -or and is given much of the credit for the adoption of this form in the United States. By contrast, Johnson’s 1755 (pre-US independence and establishment) dictionary used -our for all words still so spelled in Britain (like colour), but also for words where the u has since been dropped: ambassadour, emperour, errour, governour, horrour, inferiour, mirrour, perturbatour, superiour, tenour, terrour, tremour. Johnson, unlike Webster, was not an advocate of spelling reform, but chose the spelling best derived, as he saw it, from among the variations in his sources.

        Nope.

        Although unjerk, spelling reform and standardisation is very necessary for english.
        Rejerk
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    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      🇦🇺 English (Felon)

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    • yesman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      There are some English words and phrases that can’t be said in American English. Like the “I inherited this government position from my father”. Or, “Sure hope the King doesn’t veto this legislation”.

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      • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        “I inherited this government position from my father”.

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush
        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush
        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush
        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeb_Bush

        🤔

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      • MintyFresh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Lol don’t watch the news

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      • punksnotdead@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        …wikipedia.org/…/List_of_United_States_presidenti…

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    • Jumuta@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      🇨🇦 English (Celeste)

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    • RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      *🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿- traditional

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    • M137@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      🇬🇧 English (Traditional)
      🇺🇳 English (Simplified) 🇺🇲 English (Dumbified)

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  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The British, when they have to click the American flag for English, and then they see “color” without the “u”:

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    • Raxiel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      We save it for u wot M8?

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  • epicstove@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    When I was visiting Paris, a tour bus we got on had a audio guide, the languages were all labeled with national flags.

    English -> UK flag French -> flag of France Spanish -> Flag of Spain Portuguese -> Flag of Brazil

    Even in Europe Portugal plays second fiddle for it’s own language

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    • LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Brazil became such a cultural powerhouse, almost anyone in the world would recognize its flag. So it makes sense. But it’s funny because only Portuguese speakers would need to recognize the flag on that tour.

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      • justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes, but the guys who made the guide (I mean the developers who assigned each audio track a flag, not the ones recording the audio) might not. I guess that might not even been developed in France and nobody cared enough to fix the bug.

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  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The unnecessary "u"s haunt us

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    • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Or in American …

      The nnecessary ""s hant s.

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    • BodilessGaze@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I woke up screaming last night because I dreamed I went to grab my colored pencils and they said “colour” on the box

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  • NONE_dc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Portuguese people clicking on the Brazilian flag to see something in Portuguese.

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    • LouSlash@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Polish people clicking on the Polish flag to see something in Polish while being in Australia:

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      • PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I wonder what the Polish, Monégasque, and Indonesian folk do when they win a flag competition?

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      • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Then : Kurwa!

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    • stebo02@sopuli.xyz ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Duolingo does this. English is American and Portuguese is Brazilian. Doesn’t make sense.

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      • Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It makes a bit of sense because Duolingo teaches you the American variety of English and Brazilian.

        But still… why?!

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  • Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Brit here it’s our laugauge don’t like it? Get your own instead of spelling ours wrong

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    • Grazed@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Canadian here. Choosing between UK English and US English feels like choosing between an abusive father and abusive husband.

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      • Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        We are a reformed crazy dad we are trying to be part of your life but we’re still drama

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      350 million Americans, 70 million British.

      Your minority opinion is noted but outvoted, micronation.

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      • Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Colony

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  • kamen@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Traditional English vs Simplified English. I won’t tell you which is which.

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    • DmMacniel@feddit.org ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Traditional English vs Yankee English.

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    • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ah, one more way in which post-colonial America and Mao’s China are similar.

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  • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I wish there were some internationally recognized symbols to represent languages as distinct entities from their countries of origin, but the idea of trying to make some seems really unpopular for some reason.

    There’s other languages that have far more politically contentious flags representing them - at least all the English-speaking countries are broadly allies. Spare a thought for the Taiwanese who have to select a People’s Republic of China flag, even though the language is as much theirs as it is the PRC’s, or the large number of Russian-speaking native Ukrainians who have to select the flag of the country who’s bombing them and their families.

    The notion of a country owning a language is fraught with toxicity (indeed, Russia’s claim to vast swathes of Ukraine leans heavily on it), and if languages had their own flags we could sidestep the whole issue.

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    • epicstove@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      French has the fleur De lies which, although it was a symbol of French royalty is still used on the flag of Quebec and some places in Canada identify the French language option with the flag of Quebec.

      Realistically, the best option would just be a shorted abbreviation of the language in that language. Ex. Eng for English and deu for German

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      • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There is a set of ISO codes for each language, but it’s not catchy used as an icon, and are also implicitly Western-centric by virtue of using the Latin alphabet.

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  • Sibshops@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Percentage wise, more percent of the population in England speaks English than in the US.

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  • Etterra@discuss.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The US has more native English speakers than the next 3 countries combined. England is 5th on the list. By volume alone, our way is the correct one.

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    • SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There’s several people that have commented this, and it doesn’t make any sense. It’s called English cause it was invented in England, a country which still exists. There’s also a few claims we changed our language, we didn’t (Posh people created Received Pronunciation. American exceptionalism at its finest.

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      • LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I wouldn’t say invented 🤓

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  • Biyoo@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I replaced the US flag with a UK one on my website for this reason x)

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  • Event_Horizon@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    As an Aussie it really grinds my gears that office defaults to American spelling. And even after I change the dictionary to Australian or UK english it still continues to insert ‘z’ into words. It’s colonise, not colonize!

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    • FourWaveforms@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      How do you pronounce that word

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    • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I thought in Aus and other international areas the Z was considered correct spelling, even though most of the rest follows British convention?

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  • FourWaveforms@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “hmm… this isn’t the right country but let’s roll the dice and see what happens”

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  • redwattlebird@lemmings.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The way ‘herbs’ or ‘erbs’ (as some pronounce it) drives me absolutely nuts.

    Also, ‘mirror’ where it sounds like ‘meer’ drives me nuts.

    I definitely prefer British English. Love reading the old Agatha Christie books. E.g. “My word!” The colonel ejaculated, “I do believe that she’s dead!”

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    • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      In the Black Panther they talk about the “heart-shaped 'erb,” and it sounds so strange to me, I always think it should then be “'art-shaped 'erb!”

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  • stebo02@sopuli.xyz ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    it’s worse when it’s an American flag because I’m always looking for the British one

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    • Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      British English is the OG English. They should always use that flag.

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      • Squirrelanna@lemmynsfw.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Old English would like to have a word.

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      • stebo02@sopuli.xyz ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        yeah otherwise you might as well use the Australian flag or whatever

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  • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    As opposed to everyone else when they have to click the US flag to get English language options

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    • TranslateErr0rs@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There is no U in “Boston Tea Party” either.

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      • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Bouston Teua Puarty

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  • bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s my right as an American to not have extra 'U’s in my words and you’re infringing on it!

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    • PostProcess@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      There’s no extra 'U’s. What you want is your right to exclude the 'U’s you don’t feel are necessary, it’s not the same thing. There was no need for the 'z’s but you guys couldn’t help yourselves could you!?

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      • floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Oh, and that’s pronounced “z”, not ”z”!

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      • L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I use American English for the superior compression algorithms and the more extensive import features.

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      • brown567@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Image

        Get obsoleted, King-haver (less of a burn now, coming from Loompa-land 😭)

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      • Grostleton@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        At least we don’t pronounce it “zed”

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      • Stillwater@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Tell me with a straight face that the word armor needs a u

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    • stebo02@sopuli.xyz ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      colour armour labour favour honour harbour

      honestly it’s just so much more fancy with -our

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    • FelixCress@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Trmp sonds so mch better.

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  • moopet@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Languages and nationalities are not a one-to-one match anyway. What would you expect from a Canadian flag? French, or English? The USA has NO official language, so that makes even less sense.

    I wish people would stop trying to replace words with cute little images.

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  • WanderingThoughts@europe.pub ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    A tourist wanted since directions so he asked: "Sorry, do you speak American.’

    My buddy who can be a purist: “I understand American but I speak English.”

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    • mdd@lemm.ee ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Years ago I had someone ask me where the exit to the building is. The building occupies a complete city block in NYC and there are many exits. Using the wrong exit could add 15 minutes to your walk.

      I asked him where he is was going. He got flustered, said “speak American”, and walked off.

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    • klu9@lemmy.ca ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      On Oxford Street in London, a tourist asked me for directions to Edgware.

      At first puzzled by his interest in visiting far-off social housing and knife crime, I quickly realized by his accent what he actually meant and directed him to nearby Edgware Road.

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  • NateNate60@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Scottish people having to click on a British flag knowing it will display English (there is a perfectly good flag for England that people refuse to use 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿)

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    • NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think the Scots having to click on an English flag to read something would piss them off more?

      Or are you suggesting having a Scottish flag that displays the site in Gaelic for that 2% of Scots that know it?

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      • NateNate60@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I think you’re overthinking it slightly.

        • French flag represents the language called "French"
        • Spanish flag represents the language called "Spanish"
        • Russian flag represents the language called "Russian"
        • German flag represents the language called "German"
        • Portuguese flag represents the language called "Portuguese"
        • Japanese flag represents the language called "Japanese"
        • Korean flag represents the language called "Korean"
        • Chinese flag represents the language called "Chinese"
        • Italian flag represents the language called "Italian"
        • But somehow, the British flag doesn’t represent a language called “British”, but rather, one called “English”, despite there existing an English flag
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  • Freshparsnip@lemm.ee ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    One of these days Trump is gonna sue the UK for speaking the American language

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  • RandoMcRanderton@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We alsou have to start adding randoum U’s in places that nourmally only have O’s.

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  • javiwhite@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    As a Brit I feel like I’m going to have a cardiac arrest from cholesterol buildup every time I have to click the cheeseburger flag; so I can appreciate where they’re coming from.

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  • nthavoc@lemmy.today ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    There’s no U in color. FIGHT ME!

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  • AtariDump@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ok, it’s driving me crazy.

    Who is that? The actor, not the character they’re playing.

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  • Thorry84@feddit.nl ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The whole concept of multilingual websites is foreign to Americans. There is only one language in their mind.

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  • LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    flagsarenotlanguages.com/…/why-flags-do-not-repre…

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  • Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Why use many word when few word do.

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