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LibreOffice: We still see people on the fediverse recommending OpenOffice, despite it having year-old unfixed security issues

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  • deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Sorry I forget sometimes. It’s just that OpenOffice is a way better name. “Libre” doesn’t leap off the tongue in English and is a pretty uncommon word.

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    • saltesc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I don’t even know if I pronounce it right. Is it like libré or is it more like a lobster-tiger hybrid? Or a Lemur-cobra.hybtid?

      Also, if they’re watching, the themes still make the UI all funky unless it’s on the default—at least for Calc, anyway.

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      • deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I say leeb-ray, like it’s a French loanword.

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      • Lawnman23@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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      • JohnWorks@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I always pronounced it lib-ray

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      • ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Libre will really only ever be a French word to me so that’s how I always thought it would be pronounced. With an Americanish R sound.

        Leeb-roffice librɑɔfəs for you IPA enjoyers

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      • BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Think “Zebra” (NA English) but with an ‘L’.

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      • Alk@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I’ve always said “lihb ree” office in my head. (lib as in rib)

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    • 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Sorry, English is not my 1st language, neither is Spanish (or wherever “libre” came from), but “libreoffice” sounds much better to me.

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  • shininghero@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I still occasionally slip on that myself. It’s the first non-Microsoft office suite I used and it’s burned into my memory.

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    • ininewcrow@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Same here … I started off for about four or five years on OpenOffice until it devolved into some weird open/private organization and everyone revolted and it turned into LibreOffice. I held onto OpenOffice for a while and then realized the LibreOffice was more open source system … but you’re right, whenever I look up anything as an Microsoft alternative, OpenOffice is the first to come to mind.

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  • BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I wonder why Apache continues to support OpenOffice. Its barely moved since 2014 and hasn’t even had a security update since 2023. They could archive it as an active project (keep the code available for those who want it) and redirect most users who land on the OpenOffice site to LibreOffice.

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    • SomethingBurger@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      If Apache archived all their dead projects, they wouldn’t have any project left.

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      • ByteJunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        What? If nothing else, Airflow is massively used. Kafka is also quite very popular, I see those two very, very often.

        Even good old httpd, while having lost its crown to nginx, is still powers like 1/3 of the web.

        News of Apache death seem greatly exaggerated…

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      • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Tomcat is dead?

        I’m not sure you understand the scale

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  • VagueAnodyneComments@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    LibreOffice may not be the prettiest or the most stable, but dammit, it gets the job done

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    • Psythik@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      OnlyOffice is good too if you want a more modern interface.

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      • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        is that like onlyfans but like linkedin?

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      • pupbiru@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        afaik onlyoffice is russian, and has contracts with the russian govt and military

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    • scheep@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      LibreOffice’s UI is fine on Linux, on Windows not so much. OnlyOffice is a good alternative for Windows

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      • Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I think it’s better on Windows. It feels like a good old school Win9x app

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  • Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I don’t know what LibreOffice was like when y’all formed your opinions on it 20 years ago, but right now it’s pretty much perfect

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    • SomethingBurger@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It is pretty much the same as 20 years ago. That is, good enough for basic use cases but nowhere near as complete as MS Office. It isn’t a serious program for professional use.

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      • sudoer777@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        For documents I started learning Typst and LaTeX a while ago and now I greatly prefer either of them over LibreOffice

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      • Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        LOL

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    • dufkm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      LibreOffice is good. Very good even. I just wish Calc always had a 1-to-1 feature parity with Excel for it’s formulas, it would make it so much easier to collaborate on a spreadsheet with others. I think I had to wait a few years on e.g. XLOOKUP.

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      • Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It’s true, Excel specifically is head and shoulders above anything excel-like.

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    • iarigby@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It looks the same as it did when I formed my opinion, and I keep checking it out on a yearly basis. I sincerely want to use it, but I get physical discomfort every time I open it. I have put a lot of effort into forcing myself to accept poorly designed foss alternatives but the look and feel of Libreoffice is simply intolerable.

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      • dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        it doesn’t feel that different than Word and Excel, tbh - I don’t know what you’re talking about

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    • RandomVideos@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I woudnt call a software where its hard to rotate an image “perfect”

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    • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s not. Installed and tried last month. A bug that’s alder that many people here with Fullscreen is still present.

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      • drspod@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Can you link the bug report please?

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    • idefix@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’ve tried writing a resume last month and prepare a presentation (Writer and Impress). And I was very frustrated by crashes and lack of features. The interface is quite good, more intuitive than the MS equivalents.

      However, OnlyOffice was really nice to use.

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  • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    If I ever recommended openoffice it was just because I confused the names of the two products.

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    • Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      My dad uses LibreOffice for years, still call it OpenOffice 😂.

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      • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        So many programs use those prefixes in Linux so it just gets confusing

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      • Dicska@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I… I was today years old.

        I honestly thought LibreOffice was some rebranded name. It’s been a while since I’ve used any of them.

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  • paequ2@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I didn’t even realize you could install OpenOffice anymore… it’s doesn’t seem available in the Arch repos. wiki.archlinux.org/title/Apache_OpenOffice

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  • Blaster_M@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’m trying, but OpenOffice has all the hits on search

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  • Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Brb, forking LibreOffice into a new spinoff

    Officeoffice

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  • the_wiz@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I am still more inclined to follow the “old Linux nerds rulebook” and keep recommending to learn LaTex ;-)

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    • ChaosInstructor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      LyX and LaTeX and you can really impress your lecturer with magnificent postscript documents…at least you could…

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    • deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Still the standard for research papers in math/physics/astronomy

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    • dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      this is the way

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  • FreshLight@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Tbh I get them mixed up every time I talk about them. I don’t know what’s installed on my computers and I will most likely get them mixed up again in the future. I look it up every time but also forget it just as often.

    I got the same issue with OpenCloud and NextCloud.

    Maybe I’m the problem…

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    • Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You mean OwnCloud, don’t you?

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      • FreshLight@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        There I go again…

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      • s08nlql9@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Soon to be LibreCloud /s

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  • land@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
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    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Outdated on Windows? Because on Linux, the LibreOffice UI is great, imo.

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      • Nednarb44@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I think it’s plenty functional, but it looks dated and less flashy. I don’t mind that myself, but it does put some people off

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    • guest@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It has a nice ribbon UI like MS Office! Unfortunately it is super hidden as you first need to enable experimental settings before you can switch it on.

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      • TimeWalker@lemmy.foxden.party ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Have you actually tried LibreOffice in a while? The Ribbon UI hasn’t been experimental since LibreOffice 6.2, which was released in February 2019. It is a normal option, called Tabbed, in the User Interface settings under View > User Interface.

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    • Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Only office is basically the same interface again, all cloning MS-office 2007-2010.

      Bleach.

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    • AtariDump@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      www.onlyoffice.com

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  • cyborganism@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I feel targeted. I commented somewhere last week saying someone should use OpenOffice when I meant LibreOffice.

    It’s just old reflexes.

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    • Azzu@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Setup an autocorrect phrase :D

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  • MTK@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Didn’t notice the "OpenOffice and was extremely confused to see LibreOffice saying to ditch LibreOffice for LibreOffice

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  • Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Its a shame, I used to love OpenOffice and used it a lot. That was years ago. Now I use LibreOffice solely for Excel or else my resumes. Book writing I use novelWriter; notes I use Obsidian. What can I say, I love my markdown editors. I’m currently setting up Neovim to handle all my MD writing needs, though. I’m happy with my MD editors, but it gives me something to do and I like the idea of having one application handle it all.

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    • lookupgeorgism@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I love MD editors too, but I find it very hard to collaborate with others on writing because I don’t see any coworking tools for it, and it’s also difficult to convince coworkers to switch from word.

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      • Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        This is very true, but iirc Obsidian has a community plugin that solves this. Just checked and its called Relay and even has offline editing. Not sure how its set up, because I know that Obsidian sync is a paid service.

        I’d love to move off of Obsidian to a MD editor that’s completely open source, but I’ve tried them all and nothing tickles my fancy. I just love the plugin community for Obsidian. But that’s why I’m working on Neovim, because the plugin community there is HUGE.

        Curious, I checked for Neovim collaboration solutions and found this.

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      • Irelephant@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Google docs is the only good word processor for collaboration I have used.

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  • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Both are trash tbh

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    • heynick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      what’s the better alternative?

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      • Contramuffin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        OnlyOffice. Newer and somewhat less features, but the UI is so much better than LibreOffice. I’ve been on a quest to find the best Office alternative and OnlyOffice is what I’ve settled on

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  • jaypatelani@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Let’s just call it The Office

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  • 18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Is this OOO from back in the early 2000s?

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  • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Can they just refactor LO, for it to have a small core with a bunch of plugins, and with branding resembling Sun time OO in style, so that it’d run fast and attract those lost souls?

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  • kreskin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Like microsoft office is any better…

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    • otter@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The point is libreoffice is still being maintained.

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    • KbSez@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      No, office is no better.

      LibreOffice can open any office format document and save in that format.

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      • idriss@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yeah, in addition to the other million benefits. Like being much lighter, isn’t a giant spyware, decent scripting engine, covers all features that office has and more (it had PDF export way earlier), … My bachelor degree dissertation was in libreoffice in 2013. Since then, nobody can convince me to go back to Office.

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  • Spacehooks@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Finally got my partner to use Libreoffice but complain about ui and not having all of the make it pretty options excel has. Losing formatting between the 2 programs was hardest hurdle to get a transition.

    Doubt Common folk like me would even notice.

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  • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Image

    Odd, I didn’t think I was there in the first place.

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    • s08nlql9@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Oh yeah, i found that on my mastodon account so i copied that link instead of the real instance. But i updated the post now to use correct link

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      • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Thank you. People really didn’t seem to like me pointing this out.

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