To be fair, this is home and not pro.
In the latest Windows 11 preview build, Microsoft removed the “bypassnro” command, which let users skip signing into a Microsoft Account when installing Windows.
Submitted 3 months ago by Tea@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
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jasoman@lemmy.world 3 months ago
real_squids@sopuli.xyz 3 months ago
Do they still make enterprise/ltsc/iot versions for 11? Because those are usually the ones that don’t treat you like a child, and I expect them to retain that
BritishJ@lemmy.world 3 months ago
They do indeed, Enterprise still comes with a load of bloat thesedays.
jasoman@lemmy.world 3 months ago
There has always been join domain under sign in options.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Good to know, but I will never sign into windows with an MS account at home. Fuck everything about this. It’s either old build or 11 or still use 10 for the games I like, or I use Linux. Use that primarily as it is anyways.
jasoman@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Indeed I am also the same.
LupertEverett@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It doesn’t state anything of the sort in the article. Where did you read that?
jasoman@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Perfessional experience installing windows.
wtckt@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Just had to set up two pcs for work. Trying to get around the account setup and thinking about all the bullshit that comes with windows I just installed Linux mint.
isaacblach@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m switching as soon as I finish grad school.
Flemmy@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Windows 11 has had enough red flags for me to switch to tablet, since modern PC’s are way over performing to my needs anyway. Windows 11 experience was like a pilot for the HAL A.I. from a Space Odyssey.
ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Hey all what do you suggest for a school and game dev laptop with Linux for a ~$2k budget? I’ve been eyeballing framework but keep hearing mixed things
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 3 months ago
I like Thinkpad T and X series
slembcke@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
My 2c from buying Linux laptops. I had an 11th gen System 76 Lemur Pro that was pretty great. (20 - 30 hour battery life, no joke…) Well… until it started failing. I had to send it it multiple times to be repaired under warranty. Their service and support was the worst I’ve ever experienced, and the final time it took 6 weeks to get it fixed. Then it promptly died again just out of warranty. :( I replaced it with an AMD Framework as a very early adopter in batch 1. It’s been great so far other than a couple Mesa related bugs that came up, but nothing so bad as to make me regret it. It’s not as polished as an Apple product, but has a similar price. That’s maybe the worst thing I can say about it.
spiderhamster@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I like both of my laptops so far but have mixed feelings on both. I know it’s not a lot to go on but here’s been my experience so far. Dell XPS 15 and my new framework. Sorry, don’t know the model name.
Two days ago I received a framework laptop for work but haven’t been able to test anything other than installing Kubuntu. It was shipped to me from my employer so they had the final say in how it was configured but a few things went wrong. Not sure whose fault it was but in the end it’s still fine. I configured it to have a mix of usb-c and usb-a ports, 3.5mm audio, and display port. It came with six usb-c modules. Fine. I can live with that. The thing that really made me mad was that I requested a keyboard with no Windows key and to have no OS installed. It came with Windows 11 installed and had the Windows key on the keyboard. I don’t know who messed up but I’m not mad enough to do or say anything about. I do like that repairs and changes on this machine will be easier/possible. Oh…audio worked right away too so that was nice. Already better than the Dell XPS I bought with my own money and has crackling audio due to hardware not software issues. Works fine through an audio interface but the speakers sound like ass. I should have returned that machine right away.
Pirata@lemm.ee 3 months ago
bought with my own money and has crackling audio due to hardware not software issues. Works fine through an audio interface but the speakers sound like ass.
If its any consolidation my HP Envy, which is a normal consumer laptop that comes with windows, had that same crackling noise if I hold it at a weird angle.
I should have sent it back as well, but frankly that’s just the state of the market RN. Companies don’t give a f, even large ones.
turnip@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
System76.
gruhuken@slrpnk.net 3 months ago
Any Lenovo laptop is a very safe bet!
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 months ago
They’re probably okay, but I’ve avoided Lenovo since that one time they injected their own certificate authority to break all your internet security and middle-man in their own ads (and spy on you? Who knows?).
randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 3 months ago
IMO, Windows without a Microsoft account misses out on the least features, when compared to macOS without an Apple ID, iOS without an Apple ID, or Android without a Google accout. Sad that Microsoft keeps making it more and more difficult to bypass logging into a Microsoft accout during installation. But I use Linux anyways (btw)
smiletolerantly@awful.systems 3 months ago
Android without a Google account is great though
randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 3 months ago
That is nice, but I need the Google Play Services for push notifications on the messaging app that everyone in my country uses. It’s sad, I know. If it weren’t for that I wouldn’t log in to a Google account on my Android phone either.
Antaeus@lemmy.world 3 months ago
So here we go. Kiosk machines with random Microsoft account and MFA to private phone numbers. Glad I don’t have to manage that pile of s**t.
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
That’s what W10 LTSC is for.
Antaeus@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Until that isn’t supported anymore, yes. It’s a solution… for now.
r_deckard@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Well, if I’ve got no way to bypass it (when setting up for customers), I’ll create an account specifically for this purpose.
And proceed to poison the hell out of any data it sends.
Does it still let you sign in locally if you disable network interfaces in BIOS?
FireWire400@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Does it still let you sign in locally if you disable network interfaces in BIOS?
Don’t think so. The setup itself can’t complete without internet.
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
I would have been spiteful enough to return my new laptop (despite needing it for a trip I had in a couple of days) if I wasn’t able to bypass the account requirement by disabling the wifi.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Man it must suck to set up a computer now on restricted networks.
claymore@pawb.social 3 months ago
Couldn’t you just reinstall windows with an older ISO to bypass this? That’s what I already do at work anytime I need to setup a new machine, gets rid of the manufacturer supplied
programsbloatware. Plus Rufus has an option for triggering the bypass command automatically.r_deckard@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yes, that works, too.
hark@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Noooooo!!! You can’t just force us to use a Microsoft account!!! You have to allow us to use the bypasserino!!! Noooooooo!!!
alvyn@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Off course, coz they wanna sell user behavior to marketers. This bullshit talks about the improved security are funny. I will never use anything from Microsoft or Google for personal stuff. I have to yet eliminate Apple - in progress.
Surp@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Meanwhile everyone here saying they switching to Linux (which is perfectly fine) have chik-fil-a and McDonald’s accounts probably 🤣😆🤣
pogmommy@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
I mean, that’s kind of a whole separate thing. An account in a mobile food ordering app is significantly less invasive than an account on your whole entire operating system- like, laughably so.
Never mind that one is on your mobile device, which is an incredibly invasive surveillance device as-is for all except those with enough dedication and paranoia. Conversely, a desktop is at least conceptually much more practical to harden for privacy.
For what it’s worth I guess, I do not use mobile food ordering applications or accounts.
myplacedk@lemmy.world 3 months ago
You’re not getting the point.
A: You csn shop there without an account. It’s your own choice. An account has pros and cons, and it’s your choice.
B: I don’t know how it works in US, but in my country a McDonald’s account is a fair deal to me. They pay me a fair price for some personal info. And if I go to McDonald’s and I for any reason feel like they shouldn’t register that particular visit, I just don’t use my account.
C: I want to use Windows, but logging into a Microsoft account does not give me any benefits worth the cons. So I use Windows without a Microsoft account. And it will be annoying to keep track of a “fake” account just for that.
gruhuken@slrpnk.net 3 months ago
I’ve been boycotting McDonalds since October 2023 mate what are u on
samuelazers@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I do have a mcD app on my phone! My second phone with only untrusted apps and a fake gmail.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I still have an old copy of the installer with that command intact. Might be good to keep around.
FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
this right here. I had to switch back to windows as just too much software I needed to use doesn’t work on Linux wine or proton be damned. so I just use 21H2 until either Linux support becomes more mainstream or until the less likely option of Microsoft un-enshittifying. (LOL)
teohhanhui@lemmy.world 3 months ago
NRO
Doesn’t that remind anyone of this other NRO? en.wikipedia.org/…/National_Reconnaissance_Office
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ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 months ago
Is this a US thing? I had to install windows 11 in a VM like a month ago and I didn’t have to create MS account or use any bypass scripts.
mikey@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
in the latest preview build
i assume you didn’t install today’s beta release a month ago 😉
Bazoogle@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Install it with the English (World) region
Zeoic@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Never understood why that batch script even became popular… its so much easier to just choose install for an organization, then just never domain join it. Makes a local account, and is much easier
Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 3 months ago
the problem with this is it doesn’t work for home users that want to pay for their software. Crazy… I know… but those people do exist.
Zeoic@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Ah, the home version is so limited that I basically just didn’t even consider it an option. I guess if someone buys that version, then yeah thats not an option.
andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It’s asinine to require me to be connected to the internet to use my computer. My work laptop was absolutely useless without the internet. There’s supposed to be a pin/password thing that lets you bypass this, but it would work maybe 30% of the time.
I also don’t get why I have to give Microsoft my name and an email address for my video game machine. (I get steam and proton yada yada, but I’m often playing anything that you can barely get to work on its native system - has anyone actually got EYE : Divine Cybermancy for more than ten minutes?)
Windows XP and 7 hit the mark I think. XP let you take it apart in beautiful ways, and had all kinds of wonderful eccentricities - which is also the problem, because XP was insecure af. Windows 7 got right what they figured out by Vista Service Pack 2 as far as security. Less aesthetics, less access to the internals, but also probably “better” for a normie.
The rule is supposedly that every other one is good or something. Maybe 12 will be good?
MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I will just have to sign it up to a domain then add a local user using the command prompt. Still a lot more trouble than installing it should be but I will not give in to this garbage push to make everyone have a microsoft account. I disable the store and all of it on every PC I install.
FuryMaker@lemmy.world 3 months ago
This with Windows 11 LTSC IoT edition?
demizerone@lemmy.world 3 months ago
A couple of years ago it took MD three tries to install windows without a bunch if junk added. Linux is the way my dudes and dudettes.