Submitted 4 days ago by otter@lemmy.ca to fediverse@lemmy.world
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If you’ve been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.
Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they’re excited about the idea. I’ve really enjoyed reading through them :)
Mom we are on the TV!
technically we are federated, so kind of?
Not Lemmy though. Based.
Yeah I think it’s best we don’t advertise this place
Come to Lemmy, we got: blood thirsty Linux users, furries, femboys, communists, and tankies. Also, porn.
It’s no different than reddit, DIGG, or the Something Awful forums before they got popular.
It’s good to have some friends, but don’t let too many normies in…
We need to get more people in here if we want it to actually be a Reddit competitor. Right now it’s good for some communities, but smaller ones are still extremely underpopulated.
Not based.
It’s crazy how the wind changed. Does anyone remeber the almost exact same thing 4 years ago, when people on the right side of political spectrum shared alternatives to big tech from their point ov view? GAB.COM, PARLER, BRAVE, DUCKDUCKGO etc
XD
Duckduckgo? That’s just a search engine, no?
I agree on the rest of the parts tho
Yeah, odd inclusion. Duckduckgo is indeed a search enginge, but it’s essentially just a front end for Bing.
DDG and Brave were pushed as “censorship free” alternatives, back when I was looking into covid disinformation, because the very obviously fake websites would sometimes rank higher on them
There may be more to it though
I mean yeah, doesnt matter. The point is people shared alternatives to big tech just like folks who are not in the power right now
In both cases it was primarily performative for Americans but this time there will be considerable chunk of Europeans who will be looking to leave big tech for services in non-hostile countries.
How is Brave right wing? Because of cryptocurrencies?
Brave’s business model is a crypto scam wrapped in a protection racket. It man-in-the-middles the site’s ads, replacing them with Brave’s own, then holds the revenue hostage unless the site gives legitimacy to Brave’s crypto by accepting it as payment.
For comparison, “normal” ad-blocking consists of an end-user exercising his property right to control the operation of his own computer by programming it not to display the ads at all.
Hopefully you can see how the thing Brave does is very different, and much more ethically fraught.
It’s not explicitly rightwing.
A couple years ago Musk was recommending Signal.
It’s just an example of right wing people recommending alternatives.
Bluesky will be the next Twitter. Just give it some time
piratewires.com/…/interview-with-jack-dorsey-mike…
thats how its creator feels too.
And here’s how and why it will be enshitified:
Exactly! All a person has to do is to look around - the right buys up all popular media platforms and converts them to propaganda outlets.
Why bluesky instead of mastodon?
Are you just commenting how the people who use something like twitter are eager to be herded like sheep into the next walled garden?
I’m wondering this too People are hyped about bluesky but it is the same corpo bullshit that Twitter is. I mean it is literally by the same dude. Why fold?,
There is another interpretation. Calm down.
When I said bluesky will be the next Twitter did I said Twitter is a good place. Twitter is now bullshit.
Why bluesky instead of mastodon?
Because there is only so much oxygen in the room, and corporate ventures like Bluesky seem to come into really exciting DIY community spaces that are creating amazing things and pull the oxygen out of the room while never quite delivering on what they are promising… or seeming to promise…
Remember we are not the customers of corporate social media companies, we are the raw husks they extract value from through surveillance capitalism and ads/paid content.
I signed up today. I never liked Twitter but I will give it a try. Steam (PC gaming platform) is a member so that’s a plus for me.
I say give it three years and blue sky will just be a neolib twitter
Anybody who supports the definition of liberalism is an ally, imo.
Yeah, infighting in the resistance is a foolish waste of time.
My recent experience bluesky social was right wing. I got marked as spam immediately for commenting left wing, polite normal stuff, no arguments or anything controversial. My appeals were ignored for weeks so I left.
Interesting info, thank you. It isn’t FOSS so I don’t plan on actively using it but I try to keep my finger on what’s up. I don’t miss Reddit and wish I didn’t need a FB for my job. My account is almost a ghost though and I don’t have it on my phone. I’m sure they still have way too much data on me though.
Does that Late Show with John Oliver have a presence in the Fediverse?
Someone on mastodon told me, if you haven't found someone on fedi, you ate probably not looking hard enough. But no, I don't think they are on fedi
Someone is wrong lol. NFL, for example, cannot do anything outside of Twitter at this time. They are apparently working on it, but it’s gotta be implemented league-wide, so it’s taking some time. Idk if they’re even trying to get onto Mastodon, last I heard it was just Bluesky.
This is a large org with hundreds of millions of fans, with no presence on Fediverse really. I’m sure there are mirror accounts, but none are official.
You mean Last Week Tonight? The Late Show is Colbert.
I do 🥺
Good question. Would love that!
Here’s the same video on PeerTube
This is fantastic to see.
Not friendica, which seems an obvious facebook alternative.
Also, I think they’re onto something with their fuck it approach that every social media platform would benefit from. The internet was mostly that before. Content moderation primarily serves advertisers, it was never really for the people.
Content moderation primarily serves advertisers
Do you not think fighting toxicity and hate speech is a valid and important function of moderation that’s just as much or more for the sake of the people as it might be for advertisers?
The Internet was never supposed to have a central authority beyond the DNS tables.
Lemmy has also taken over advertiser focused moderation patterns. A great example is NSFW. What is NSFW exactly? Not safe for work? Why is that relevant?
NSFW is literally just advertiser unfriendly content. Why else group nakedness, violence, sexual content, and death in the same category?
One of the few decent TV hosts. His reporting on Palestine breaks with the anti-Palestinian censorship that dominates US media.
I’m sure he’s going to be facing lawsuits from Краснов and Wormtongue.
I don’t get it
Good boi
someone tell that n00b that Bluesky is not an alternative
Really hoping legislators in Sweden don’t force Signal to pull its services from the country. 🫣
Would like to get my family on Signal. I deleted my facebook account and now we use various other chat apps that I don’t quite like
Anyone have a link that works for Canadians, you MONSTERS?
You don’t just trade 1 powerful ceo for another when you get the chance to leave. Ridiculous.
I feel like the DNC are being pushed into a blindspot for the general public.
All Bernie has done is go around to speak at different events, and he is far from the only politician to do so.
Cool, everybody can build these companies up so that they can launch their IPOs and be controlled by a new board of directors fresh from wall street. It will all be so different.
Can anyone explain Bluesky vs Mastodon as Twitter alternatives, asking as someone who never really used Twitter much anyway?
Are we that degenerate already??
Not a big surprise it’s only the alternatives to twitter and instagram.
I’m going to assume this was Daniel O’Brien’s doing… because he’s the only only Last Week writer I know specifically.
CIA. A rehash of the crypto ag strategy
Senpai noticed me!!
So thats why it was slow for a while.
Awesome!
i’m on a finnish instance but i’m on ihio
Is that MPV 👀
imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
I wish he had mentioned Lemmy, but it’s understandable that he didn’t. Also Bluesky isn’t an alternative to big tech, it IS big tech. I wish it wasn’t stealing so much of our publicity lately.
But beggars can’t be choosers, and we have seen some nice growth over the past couple months. John Oliver fans are the perfect candidates to join the fediverse, hopefully some of them find their way to Lemmy.
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 4 days ago
I’m really not happy about bluesky their fragmentation of the fediverse protocols is only going to harm us in the long run.
knova@infosec.pub 4 days ago
Intentionally, I think.
rumba@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
shrug, I wish they were with us, but they are also a big ole corporate entity, so I’m kind ok with us staying our our side of the fence. As they need to implement payment and corporate protections to their network, we’re free to be free over here.
We don’t have to play ball. not with them anyway,
I think, If we have any credible threat, it’s going to be from the Governmental gross anti-tampering laws, forced moderation, or backup regulations. They could make it legally difficulty for us to exist.
Dil@is.hardlywork.ing 4 days ago
Bluesky was always twitters goal, they were losing hella money, so they devloped blue sky.
tomenzgg@midwest.social 4 days ago
This; I’m so sick of hearing it pop up when people mention alternative.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I’m not sure anyone mentions bluesky as an alternative to big tech.
Pretty sure they only mention it as an alternative to musk/X.
zqps@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
The thing that it really has going for itself is that it simply isn’t twitter. And Muskler made sure that’s a huge deal.
OpenStars@piefed.social 4 days ago
Too late - we are already here!:-P
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ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 days ago
This was literally the photo that finally got me banned from Reddit years ago.
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rumba@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
How can anyone not love the guy?
otter@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
Indirectly, looking up “John Oliver Mastodon” brings up this post in the top few. “John Oliver Pixelfed” has this post as the first option
So we’re not completely left out :)
JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 days ago
Exactly, don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. Someone using BlueSky over Twitter is a good thing.
commander@lemmings.world 4 days ago
We still shouldn’t be doing the dirty work of rich people for them.
We should all be promoting Mastodon over the centralized and corporate-owned bluesky.
moseschrute@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I agree, but I also think we should remember a loss for musk is a win for society
balder1991@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Do you really think Lemmy could handle the amount of people that Reddit has?
As far as I know the existing instances are usually running on capacity and always in need of donations, and that’s when the owner isn’t handling the costs themselves. I’m not sure how well most instances have right now.
Maybe Lemmy would benefit of some way to get people to pay, such as giving people awards etc. like Reddit. Despite being useless stuff, it might provide some fun that would make hardcore users want to pay. But for that to work out, all apps would also need to show the posts awarded in a different way, so I think that’s unlikely.
But the point is that without a business model, the Fediverse will only be able to handle enthusiasts.
rumba@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
yup. no question. Not one instance mind you, but Reddit is also a giant cluster. (and clusterfuck)
We just need the big bois to stop stuffing themselves. There’s 0 reason to have 2/3 of the totally traffic flooding into world because people are scared of Federation that they never even have to deal with.
Maybe we make some premium pay servers with baller architecture, killer response time, user capacity limits and high speed storage?
Eventually, it’s going to be ads, donations or payments. It’s all someone else’s computer, someone has to foot the bill. But at great scale, you should be able to have an ad-free experience for something in the range a dollar or two a month.
Zagorath@lemm.ee 4 days ago
LW definitely can’t handle more traffic than it already has. It already (thanks to the admins’ refusal to update to the latest version of Lemmy) takes multiple days for LW content to get federated to other instances properly, which is why I’ve had to switch over to this alt account of mine because there are zero comments on this post in my main instance. With more users, that delay would grow from days to potentially weeks.
Novice_Idiot@lemmy.wtf 4 days ago
John Oliver being uploaded to YouTube is awesome! I should comment that Lemmy is a great Reddit alternative