“Squarespace Exec Wants Slave Labor”
Gen Z job seekers should be willing to work for free, long hours, ‘willing to do anything,’ says Squarespace CMO
Submitted 3 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/squarespace-cmo-cold-called-firms-100000661.html
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hperrin@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Dkarma@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Nepo baby thinks everyone’s daddy can bankroll their slave labor
SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Great! Let’s up your income tax rate to 90% and add a 1% per annum wealth tax over 25mil in assets, so all tertiary education can be free and people can earn a universal basic income, while they get settled into a career path they love.
Delusional@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Hey that way we would have time for hobbies and socializing. They won’t let us have any of that shit.
Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Guillotine.
hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 3 months ago
lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
Why do I want that as a tattoo?
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Reminder that unpaid internships are almost always illegal in the USA. www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/…/71-flsa-internships
TOModera@lemmy.world 3 months ago
She was able to work, for free, in her freshman summer, while going through for a finance degree. So many questions:
Where did the money come from? Who paid her tuition?
Why not go through for Co-op, where you obtain a job as part of schooling? Or why did she have to hunt for internships? Even my wife, who had unpaid internships and family to back her up during the same time, had help from the school to find it. How jank is U of Texas?
Why, pray tell, is a finance degree holder the CMO?
I mean, I’m happy for her, but how useful is her recommendations? If you don’t have a family who can pay your tuition and summer living costs, this is useless.
And ignoring how people need money in order to have shelter and food, what does she think happe s if everyone starts doing this? Should I be calling up everyone at SquareSpace and asking for a job?
atro_city@fedia.io 3 months ago
It really does sound like one of those "with a small donation from my parents" story. And even if it's not, great for her, she was lucky. Does she really believe most students just smoke weed and fuck all day or something? Every single person I knew from the US that went to uni worked during uni. Hell, even as a European I had to work despite the state money I got.
I know people who donated blood and plasma just to get by - and they had scholarships!
How can employers be "in dire need of employees" and people still have to hustle to get a job? They obviously aren't in dire need.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 months ago
prey tell
🙃
GalacticTaterTot@lemmy.world 3 months ago
G̶e̶n̶ Z̶ j̶o̶b̶ s̶e̶e̶k̶e̶r̶s̶ Squarespace CMO should be willing to work for free, long hours, ‘willing to do anything.’
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 months ago
There’s an old Soviet joke.
We pretend to work. They pretend to pay us.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 months ago
No no, guys. She’s right. We should TOTALLY bring back slavery!!! What? That’s whats being discussed here, right? Long hours, doing anything thats asked, without any compensation. That sounds like slavery to me.
Soooooo, who’s ready to bring back slavery??? Guys? Guys???
Well there you have it. The nays have it.
Thorry84@feddit.nl 3 months ago
I think you vastly underestimate the number of people who are willing to bring back slavery today.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Aristofascists. All of them.
cheers_queers@lemm.ee 3 months ago
we already have slavery here. it was never gone…
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Adding Squarespace to the black list…
kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Well, I’m never using Squarespace again.
ben_dover@lemmy.world 3 months ago
that’s slavery, Karen
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Its one full-time GenZ employee, Michael. How much could it cost? $10?
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
Woah, hold your horses there: Full time?
EndHD@lemm.ee 3 months ago
The key takeaway of the article is she was so unemployable when she started that she had to apply everywhere and be willing to put in extra effort and accept lesser pay to get started. Then after that, she got lucky.
That’s usually how it goes - especially for those who don’t have any defining traits.
stoly@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Agreed. She had the right connection, had the right look, was in the right place at the right time, etc. Not saying she’s not intelligent, creative, etc–she probably is or wouldn’t be in these roles. She definitely didn’t get to where she is through hard work, though.
Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Not to mention Travelocity broke the law by allowing her to work for free while benefiting their company.
In general, as long as an employee is engaging in activities that benefit the employer, regardless of when they are performed, the employer has an obligation to pay the employee for that time.
shasta@lemm.ee 3 months ago
They did. They paid her a rate of $0/hr, which she agreed to.
RBWells@lemmy.world 3 months ago
What is a CMO? Chief Medical Officer? Completely Moronic Outburster? Certainly not Chief Morale Officer?, with those views.
wavebeam@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Chief marketing officer
Zetta@mander.xyz 3 months ago
Of course, the most cancerous and toxic career field. Marketing.
I swear 98.9999% of marketing is just scamming people.
magnetosphere@fedia.io 3 months ago
Working full-time for free is impossible without another source of income (like a trust fund, or exceptionally generous parents) that most of us don’t have access to. It irritates me that the article doesn’t even mention that.
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The woodchipper calls to me. It’s starving it says. Feet. It wants feet.
rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Damn guess I’m a woodchipper then 👅
GBU_28@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Feet first are you out of your mind?
JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 3 months ago
What’s this willing to do anything thing? Did she sell sex to get where she is now?
leisesprecher@feddit.org 3 months ago
Yes, but not using her body.
DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Hey Kinjil, you’re an asshole.
StaySquared@lemmy.world 3 months ago
lmao… not even surprised. I’ve only had one Indian boss, that guy thought salaried employees have to work 60+ hours a week. Then the sob convinced the CTO to eliminate half of the IT staff across the board (14 people total) and replace them with off shore Indian labor to save money. Once I realized what had happened I decided it was best to resign. Especially when my boss expected me to lead team meetings with the off shore Indian team at 4AM PST / 4:30PM IST. And still come into work at 7AM til 5-6-7PM
stoly@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Soo…did this place eventually collapse under its own hubris? I went through similar when I used to work for Silicon Valley Bank. Eventually their hubris caught up to them.
StaySquared@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I didn’t keep up with their current events. Ever so often I would ponder what happened with the rest of the IT team members but I never reached out to any of them (LinkedIn) for gossip.
acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 months ago
Good dammit, how I hate this ducking world.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yeah, the whole nightmare capitalist workplace is just absolutely quackers.
mechoman444@lemmy.world 3 months ago
🦆
henfredemars@infosec.pub 3 months ago
It’s easy to work for free when you’re already rich.
AshMan85@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Eat the rich
pyre@lemmy.world 3 months ago
time to let every content creator who accepts their sponsorship.
HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I haven’t has a squarespace ad read on my feed for years. Now I know why.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yeah, nothing new it was the same 20+ years ago too.
unmagical@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
I’m sure the Squarespace CMO works long hours for free.
Kroxx@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Nah companies who have this way of thinking should go out of business instead.
HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 months ago
I graduated with a BFA, concentration in fashion design, just after a major economic crash. It was expected, even before the crash, that design students would take “internships” at design companies and studios where the would be free labor, doing shit like sweeping, fetching coffee, and so on, while learning nothing beyond what they got in school, and not earning any credit (because, y’know, you had already graduated). It was understood that you would do this for 18-24 months after graduation.
I was not able to do this; my (now) ex-wife was not willing to move to NYC or LA with me so I could pursue this, and I wasn’t going to be able to work enough hours at a real job to support myself while also working at an “internship”.
This is why I am not working in the fashion industry now.
UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 3 months ago
And if I don’t?
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Well then you just won’t get the LUXERY of spending your whole day doing unpaid often times humiliating labor.
makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
I’m gen X. I worked for free to get experience. It sucked, but it landed me a super sweet job compared to my young peers, as I had experience on the ground, and they did not. That was the only difference.
It’s a shitty thing starting at the bottom. That’s how I stepped up, and put of my young man poverty.
tryptamine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
What time period did you work for free while also working shitty jobs for rent?
Lots of people are working two full time jobs to barely survive…
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but you have to look around and understand that a 1 bedroom apartment can easily be one full time jobs worth of salary to rent if you’re a GenZ, then your second full time job is utilies and food… And depending on where they live, that’s WITH a roommate.
Once you’ve worked 16 hours a day, plus commute time, unpaid lunches…you basically only have time to sleep.
Where in that schedule do you propose someone donate their time working for free?
makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
This was definitely in a time when things were heaps cheaper. It was the 1990s and the cost of living was nothing like it is now so it was definitely easier for me.
But I do remember working from some time in the afternoon until about three in the morning on a project for free to demonstrate that I can do what I needed to do.
That project got me a foot in the door and it got me my first job that I would consider my real road to success.
It wasn’t fun, it wasn’t easy, and i remember being so tired that my eyes were shuttering/shaking, but I knew that if I could get that out the door and show them what it was I could do, that it gave me a good chance.
It did more than that, it put me straight into salary in their company within a week.
Absolutely fantastic, and I might have been lucky, that I didn’t get screwed, but that it is what happened.
ysjet@lemmy.world 3 months ago
You’re getting down voted because it’s not 1990 anymore. Working for free just gets you abused, not a foot in the door.
makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Many people had that same attitude then as well. It’s always been like this. It’s not like anything is different.
The only thing different now is the huge costs of living which would make it a lot more difficult to do versus when I did it back in the day. It definitely was financially easier for me because the economy was not so screwed as it is now.
big_slap@lemmy.world 3 months ago
she should lead by example
r00ty@kbin.life 3 months ago
Take control of that line from independence day, with a slight change. "In the words of YOUR generation. UP YOURS!"
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
You first, asshole.
HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 months ago
…She literally did do it.
NatakuNox@lemmy.world 3 months ago
She literally was already privileged person that didn’t have to worry about providing for herself. So no. She didn’t.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
Did she have a fat bank account while she did it or was she skating on the edge like the people she’s criticizing. Cause one is meaningful and the other is performative.
abbadon420@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Talking about assholes, that’s where she can put it.