My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore
Submitted 4 months ago by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.howtogeek.com/my-windows-computer-just-doesnt-feel-like-mine-anymore/
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user1234@lemmynsfw.com 4 months ago
chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
PERFECT!
LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 months ago
I don’t understand why this meme exists. Did they rocket this guy up there to shoot him? Why would be be in space if he couldn’t be trusted with the truth?
user1234@lemmynsfw.com 4 months ago
I think the original showed the earth being a flat disk and the first astronaut says “it’s really flat?” And the second one says “always has been”. But is about to shoot him to keep the knowledge of it safe from the masses.
lung@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I just got a new laptop and was genuinely gonna try windows 11 and wsl for my coding needs. But in first boot, it demands internet to do updates. Ok, I connect to coffee shop wifi. Nope, won’t do it because it can’t handle the click through screen to accept wifi ToS. Fine. I take it home, where my Internet is great but has a glitch where it drops out for a few seconds now and then. Turns out that windows will literally cancel updating and demand I reconnect and restart for the kind of drop that I barely notice day to day. So I gave up, plugged in my ArchLinux thumb drive, and
mkfs.ext4before rsyncing my entire old computer to itdoodledup@lemmy.world 4 months ago
You use Arch Linux but can’t fix your wifi?
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Actual autism I know
helenslunch@feddit.nl 4 months ago
I mean you probably want to have internet when you install any OS…
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
the fact the install media can’t provide a working desktop by itself is pathetic.
lung@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’m down but if it can’t handle a 5s dc then rip
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
The fact that it’s a requirement - and moreover automatically creates and integrates with MS cloud services - is what people don’t like.
Nobody is arguing that it’s a bad idea to let your chosen distro installer automatically pull the most up-to-date packages.
barsquid@lemmy.world 4 months ago
They gave it access to the internet twice.
nexussapphire@lemm.ee 4 months ago
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
Let’s be honest, very few people who talk about how much they hate Microsoft will even consider alternatives
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
It’s not a failure to consider the alternatives that slows adoption, it is the very real material problems with those alternatives.
It’s not fair that a multinational corporation gets to wield virtually limitless power to starge the alternatives of oxygen and create as much friction as possible in the process, but it is very real, and blaming the users won’t solve anything.
ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
Can you provide a citation for your claims about the process of switching?
jsonjson@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
I used to help maintain a Linux distro, and there is a level of polish Windows has that I feel cannot be reached by the FOSS ecosystem due the resources dumped into hiring dedicated teams at MS. Microsoft has tons of money. I’m sad about the direction of windows, but it generally works pretty well for how it’s designed (which is in some cases awful).
c0ber@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
there was a time where that may have been the case, but microsoft has been chipping away at any polish they had for years. sure there’s still some rough edges in linux, but it’s only getting better where windows continues to get worse
AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I agree with your point, but I never would have thought of describing Windows as “polished”.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
That’s my point, people may complain but nothing else competes.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’m sad about the direction of windows, but it generally works pretty well for how it’s designed
That is a bold claim. And absolutely wrong for many configurations.
ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
A good amount of Linux distros don’t seem to want to get the basics down. Constant churn vs stable but way out of date is more how is describe the choice, while windows at it’s core is actually a pretty stable platform. I don’t have to, for example, get annoyed at Firefox middle mouse scroll not working because I forgot this distro still defaults to x11 even though it installs Wayland too blah blah blah.
midimalist@lemdro.id 4 months ago
Yes, because I need Adobe to do my meh wage part-time job in developing country from my one and only working laptop and I don’t have the luxury of surplus money, time, and mental energy to do anything about it.
But I get your point. If I have the means, I will fix my broken Thinkpad and definitely install Linux there the first chance I get. Either that or Adobe finally release Linux version, which will probably be released after Half-Life 3.
I can’t wait to try Endeavor (so I can finally be an obnoxious person who say “I used Arch^-based^ ^distro^, btw”)
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Either that or Adobe finally release Linux version, which will probably be released after Half-Life 3.
Yeah, I’ve seen what Adobe’s support looks like. I remember the linux version of Flash Player. The guy in charge of it whined on the official Adobe blog on the subject that he had to support “minority browsers” which at the time was everything but Internet Explorer on Windows.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
That’s my point exactly, Linux doesn’t come without sacrifice and few are willing to sacrifice anything for freedom
mrvictory1@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Adobe, you mean photoshop? github.com/MisconceivedSec/photoshop-22-linux
areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 4 months ago
You can run adobe products on Linux with Wine.
rozodru@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
you could always duel boot or VM for your adobe stuff.
KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
Most people believe they will start seeing problems where there were none before. They need to invest time into research about their use-cases, which is a cost even before switching.
The typical user used Windows since before they became scared of change, so that’s what they’ll stick with.
The pain of using Windows still can and will be higher without the majority of people switching to anything.
asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
The typical user used Windows since before they became scared of change, so that’s what they’ll stick with.
In some ways this was me, then win 11 came around and I really didn’t like it, and it was pretty unstable for me, so I was stuck between two options for change, neither being what I would call “comfortable” (I had to, win 10 was blue screening literally every other day) which was when I saw the steam deck announcement, (also the LTT Linux Challenge) and I haven’t given win 11 a serious try sense
UntitledQuitting@reddthat.com 4 months ago
I’m not allowed to do my full-time job from any other computer besides the windows one assigned to me.
flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
Doesn’t apply to the author here, so I don’t understand why you brought it up?
ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world 4 months ago
[deleted]skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
did chatgpt wrote that for you
tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The author hopes for a future version of Windows that offers more user control and less interference from Microsoft’s software-as-a-service products.
Currently there is zero incentive for Microsoft to do this, and only upside potential to keep doing what they’re doing.
You’d need thousands of companies to abandon their dependency on Windows, Office, and the entire Microsoft ecosystem for them to change course now.
TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Microsoft is constantly experimenting with how far they can push users into a corner and get away with it. There might be a day when Microsoft caves and releases a Windows that is more like what we wanted, but I imagine it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets any better. We have not yet seen the worst MS has to
offerforce upon us.OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Just look at how bad the car industry is now. Your car spies on EVERYTHING.
Windows can still get a lot worse before we begin to see an improvement.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 months ago
That’s fine. I’ll just stick with Windows 7 for the next 30 years.
corroded@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I switched all of my Windows systems over to Windows 10 LTSC a few months ago, and it’s been a game-changer. I still get security updates, but no advertisements, bloat, or new “features.” I believe it’s supported until 2032.
After that, I’ll probably switch my remaining systems over to Linux, but until then, it’s not half bad.
Jayb151@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I ran ltsc for a few months… Then I found it didn’t have simple stuff like the camera app? I forget why, but there was one all I really needed that I didn’t have, so after fighting trying to install it, I just want back to Windows pro. I might give windows enterprise a try though.
ByteMe@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’m thinking about doing it too but with w11
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Acceptance is the last stage of grief. You are ready to moved on.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It’s like when people in abusive relationships suddenly realize that their partner doesn’t actually care about them, and everyone around them is like “Yeah, no shit. Fucking leave their ass.”
Aceticon@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Thanks in party to the spirit in Lemmy (thanks guys and gals) and getting pissed off at the ever more enshittification, I really went full-on on taking back control, and I don’t mean just changing my home PC (mainly used for Gaming) from Windows to Linux, but also replacing the TV Box that’s bundled with my ISP subscription (and will be changing ISP when the current contract is over) with my own Mini-PC with Lubunto and Kodi (which is also my Torrenting host with an always-on VPN and my home’s NAS) replacing the original Samsung Android (which had been bloated due to updates to the point of filling up all memory) of my aging tablet, with LineageOS and even doing the same on my brand new Smartphone.
Granted, I’ve always had the spirit of avoiding “smarts” in stuff that doesn’t need it - like TVs - but now I went and as much as possible took back control on even the stuff that does need “smarts”.
So far I quite happy with it all: I’ve maintained (improved, even, such as my Tablet now having more available memory) my level of Tech access whilst cutting of the ways in which companies exploited my time and patience for advertising money.
Things are becoming really bad when it comes to treating customers as cattle to be milked and I reckon that the only future were Tech is actually a pleasure to use is for those people who take control back from the corps on all of their devices.
ATDA@lemmy.world 4 months ago
In Linux I wanted a window to open in a specific place on boot. Fairly simple bash script.
In Windows FUCK YOU.
With llm’s you can get a lot of bad info but for Linux commands, basic tutorials and scripting Linux is WAY easier.
archer@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
Ask your doctor if Linux is right for you
HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It isn’t your computer, user license clearly states you’re renting the software. You always have been, it’s just now they can enforce that agreement more readily. Microsoft is making a lot of bad decisions at the moment, but the majority of consumers really don’t care - adverts and surveillance are what they grew up with.
You can switch to Linux, but as much as I love it (it’s my daily driver for work and for travel gaming, oh and the community is absolutely amazing), it’s not 1-1. You will have to jump through hoops sometimes to get things to run (but damn me there are amazing people out there who can and do help). Then again, you own it because it is free, and it will run most things with the right tweaks.
I can’t speak for MACs (too poor to use one, my devices tend to be upgradable or VERY long life), but I hear they’re a better experience in terms of less bloat/adverts. Again though, you are renting with Apple, and are largely trapped in their ecosystem, and they have a ‘reputation’ for lack of repairability…
hissingmeerkat@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
That’s because you’re the victim of a crime: extortion
Freefall@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I have nothing critical on it, and I will make my 8.1 last as long as the disks and fans still spin!
Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Like, I’d understand a free version of Windows that has the ads and bloat, but the idea that people are paying $100 for this disrespect is insane.
Netrunner@programming.dev 4 months ago
Using windows will do that.
gnutard@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
LIBREBOOT! LIBREBOOT! LIBREBOOT!
Beaver@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Linux never looked so hot.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
The “1000 and 1 Microsoft sucker lament” genre again.
One would think in a “technology” community people would be sharing mostly articles about some cool-working things, and news would be something supplementary.
I know that I haven’t submitted a single post here, but just WTF.
JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It never was yours
fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 4 months ago
That makes the OP eligible for Windows-refugee status tbh.
Mio@feddit.nu 4 months ago
What do Microsoft have to gain from not listening on to the users?
NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 4 months ago
How intuitive
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I find this to either be a lie or self inflicted. I manage a small fleet of a few hundred windows systems and all updates have been fine for years.
In the windows admin user groups there are more than a few that are deploying updates within 24hrs of release to thousands of servers and workstations and have not reported issues.
Lastly I think that tech bloggers say things like this to get clicks, so they can get ad revenue. Then they also tell you how to disable updates so they can get more clicks and ad revenue.
It’s disingenuous and probably harmful to be telling people to disable updates that lead them to be exposed to vulnerabilities.
twinnie@feddit.uk 4 months ago
I hate Windows for all the monetisation and privacy issues but I never really had problems with it killing my computer.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I had a Windows 10 update fuck up my laptop for about 15 hours until it somehow magically unfucked itself and started working again once.
But thats about it
xavier666@lemm.ee 4 months ago
As a linux fanboy, the primary issues that I faced with Windows (Win10 nearly a decade ago) are
If I had never used Linux, these wouldn’t even seem like problem; just normal Windows shenanigans. But after using Linux, I can never go back. I don’t know how much worse/better Win11 is now but can’t be bothered to try.
JTheFox@lemmy.world 4 months ago
My biggest issue with Windows (at least on my desktop) is with my GPU driver for my Intel Arc A770 LE. Windows Update will not stop automatically “updating” my driver to a driver that was made about a year and a half ago. It’s too old that Intel Arc Control doesn’t even work with it. It doesn’t matter how I install the latest driver from Intel, I can DDU the old one, install the driver and wipe all custom configurations or just install it normally. Nothing works, upon the next reboot, it automatically says “there’s an update” and installs regardless if I want it or not. The driver installation also has a 50/50 chance of blue screening my whole system when installing, both the installation from Windows update, and from Intel. The Window driver “updates” for my driver have also just happened randomly with no notice, they’ve occurred during hour long Blender renders, crashing it and wasting hours of my time redoing work. (This is all on Windows 10). It is frustrating to deal with
Meanwhile, my Linux install on the same computer just runs mesa and I’ve had no issues at all with my GPU. (Or any issues with drivers really, it all just works).
Although it didn’t “kill” my computer. Whenever I still used Windows, it would spontaneously install this outdated driver which would either blue screen or crash whatever I was in the middle of doing such as working in Blender, playing a game, etc.
bizarroland@fedia.io 4 months ago
It's kind of disingenuous of you to proudly say, "I don't use the same version of Windows that this person likely does and I don't have the same issues that this person does so they must be full of shit".
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 4 months ago
There aren’t many versions of windows since 10 and 2016. They are all very similar now.
Zorque@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It’s kind of a wide disparity for something that’s so locked down, though. It’s not as though one person is saying they get occasional issues and the other is they often have issues… it’s one person basically saying their own personal computer is nigh unusable and the other providing an example of a large number of examples of that never happening…
It’s far more likely this individual is fucking up their computer on a regular basis, or has a very high bar of usability that is broken any time there is even the slightest hiccup or inconvenience.
mox@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
“I’ve never experienced what you describe, so it must be either imagined or your own fault.”
I’ve seen this nonsense over and over again in communities of all kinds, most often in tech forums (where there are always a few participants suffering from a big-fish-little-pond effect). It’s a very rude and foolish bit of human behavior.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
kava@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I think the guy you’re replying to is probably right, just because you can tell from the article the author is not really an expert or advanced user.
But I upvoted you because honestly we do not get enough random Shakespeare on online comments lol
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Not just me, many others.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 4 months ago
That’s the difference between the Home and Pro versions though. The things that generally break on the Home versions are all the things not generally enabled on a domain controlled Pro version. Thisbis more about Microsoft just being bad at small updates versus these giant roundup packages they like to ship.
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 4 months ago
What things? Home just doesn’t have GPO as far as I know.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The interesting thing for me is that I own two different surface pro 7 tablets. I have one for work and one for home (now that work doesn’t require me to bring my own device anymore). The work surface has windows 10 pro on it. My home one doesn’t, The difference is very interesting. The IT team have disabled a lot of stuff on my work surface that I don’t even have access to on my home unit. I don’t often have bugs from updates breaking things at work. I do at home though which is enough for me to perhaps upgrade the windows key on my home unit someday. If I don’t install linux first which is a possibility.
morrowind@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
Seriously, anytime people make complaints like these about windows, it just tells me they are either
treadful@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
The thing that usually kills windows is shitty drivers. So people with different hardware can have completely different experiences.
uranibaba@lemmy.world 4 months ago
That is probably why Microsoft forced updates on people in W10.
Virkkunen@fedia.io 4 months ago
My two cents, I could say the same as the author. My Windows work laptop most of the times cannot wake up from sleep (you know, opening the lid after it's closed) so I have to force a restart. There's a 50% or less chance that Bluetooth and WiFi won't work at all (they won't be displayed on Windows, like it's not even a feature) after I turn the laptop on, so most of my pre-work morning is restarting the laptop until it's working as intended. It's the third laptop I got from them, they're different models but they're all HP, and they all had problems. The Macs and the same HP laptops running Linux have none of these issues.
ashok36@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I can kind of feel the author on this. I’m in charge of a lot of “special projects” at work that basically come down to, “figure out a way to replicate this extremely expensive technology or software using low cost or free alternatives”. It ends up being an unholy mix of programs and hardware that is held together with duct tape and super glue and any minor perturbation means something breaks.
Zorque@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Sounds like less of a Windows problem than an individual problem, though.
Blaming Windows cause your Frankenstein machine breaks often is disingenuous.
LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
There have been two distinct Windows updates in recent memory that have broken things.
The one that stopped network printers from working, and you had to change a specific GPO setting which was not available in Intune at the time, meaning I had to do it manually on each computer.
The one that removed all shortcuts to Office 365 apps from the desktop and start menu, necessitating a repair… manually on each affected machine.
So it does happen on occasion. It’s not as bad as in the XP days, but it still can be a little sketchy at times
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I had an update completely brick my webcam, and another that fucked up my audio (but eventually got fixed months later).
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Odd, i didn’t need to address either of these.
I would have scripted it for Intune.
AceSLS@ani.social 4 months ago
Doesn’t even need updates, in the 10 years I was on Windows it didn’t want to start after shutting it down again like 7 times
I hated having to reinstall every year
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I‘ve had several faulty Windows updates in recent years and my machine is pre-built. And going by the threads I sifted through in search of solutions I am far from the only one. It‘s perfectly fine to not have the newest update at all times so as long as you update once a month when you can afford a potential faulty update. Having an older than most recent version is far from your biggest concern regarding security. I would even say it‘s a non-issue compared to good old fishing mails.
omgarm@feddit.nl 4 months ago
I’ve been using windows 11 since general release and have had zero issues. Not with ads, not with updates, not with one drive. Well, unless you count clickong away pop-ups to jse new features from time to time. Not once has a file been saved to onedrive.