My win10 upgraded without asking. Win11 is horrible, I’m going to wipe and reinstall win10 again. As soon as update support stops, it’s Linux for me. Screw Microsoft. They even added ads as notifications and they are going to put ads in the start menu. Wtf! This is the end of windows, I’m sure.
Windows 11 just isn't enticing Windows 10 users to upgrade, and its market share is actually falling
Submitted 6 months ago by ylai@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.world
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LordWiggle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
noodlejetski@lemm.ee 6 months ago
during the great Mastodon migration in 2022 I saw someone post how they head to unlearn scrolling past every 6th post or so on their timeline, because that’s how the Twitter app was displaying the ads. I wish Microsoft the Very Bad and daydream about year of the Linux desktop, but something’s telling me people will get used to ads on Windows the same way.
MrVilliam@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You’re definitely right. Facebook got super shitty and most people didn’t leave. Netflix got super shitty and most people didn’t leave. YouTube got super shitty and most people didn’t leave. Amazon’s shitty video service got even more shitty, but Fallout was about to come out, so most people didn’t leave and I bet they actually got more subscribers (but idc enough to look it up). It seems like most people have accepted that things just get shitty over time. Or maybe they’re just not noticing the shitty changes? Idk. It’s hard to look at our projected trajectory as a species and be left with much hope. There’s good in this world, but it seems like none of it is coming from companies.
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I had the same experience when switching from the reddit app to Boost. When Boost stopped working for reddit, I couldn’t stand it so it was bye bye reddit my entire pc connection is ad free. There’s a filter in my router, strong filter in my vpn and I have blockers. I do not watch streaming services, I download everything through usenet with an automated system on my NAS. I have no TV. I order groceries online, I never enter a store. My phone has filters too. I live completely ad free. But then Microsoft comes, and says “fuck you, here’s an ad!” on MY machine. Without consent. I was boiling.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m testing out Tiny11, which is basically Windows 11 without the bloat and so far the experience is great!
My secondhand laptop from 2019 went from taking two minutes or more each to boot and to shut down in the full Microsoft monstrosity to less than 10 seconds for either in Tiny11 and the general performance is also dramatically improved!
grue@lemmy.world 6 months ago
(I’m speaking generally, not criticizing you personally.)
It’s amazing the great effort to which people will go to try to compensate for Microsoft’s abusive behavior, often while simultaneously claiming that switching OSs is too much effort.
Projects like Tiny11 are the computer equivalent of “oh, this black eye? I got it falling down the stairs and definitely not because my partner hit me.”
Folks get mad about Linux evangelism, but it’s really no different than friends saying “leave his ass; you’re too good for him!”
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Sounds good, I’ll go check it out :)
realitista@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I’m using StartAllBack and have found it to be a rather nice experience.
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah but that’s only UI issues. It also runs much slower then win10. There are massive performance issues. Next to that I have less rights to do stuff. Few days ago I wasn’t allowed to forget Bluetooth devices for example. Even in control panel bt settings. After XP it all went downhill with accessibility of settings. Fancy setting pages with restricted options. Why, what’s wrong with control panel? I know it’s still there, and we still have WIN+X but it’s getting placed behind more sub menus and restrictions and more and more is being removed to make it idiot proof. But it’s also locking me out. I want full control over my machine. No one tells me what I can and cannot access on my device. Fuck Microsoft.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
My win10 upgraded without asking
Oh snap, so the only thing that stopped mine was because it was not compatible?
Wtf Microsoft!!!
tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 6 months ago
I’m so glad I’m stuck with a “your hardware doesn’t support windows 11” message.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Just disable TPM in your BIOS if you have that option. Win 11 needs modern TPM so it won’t upgrade you if you don’t have one.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“Needs” lol
It’s just in there to sell more hardware. Afaik, 11 does nothing that actually requires the newer tpm.
sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
I disabled my TPM in BIOS so Windows would never upgrade
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I think this is a pretty big deal and they are shooting themselves in the foot with these unnecessary restrictions.
snownyte@kbin.social 6 months ago
Same, out of curiosity, I checked my system for that and got the message.
Even if I didn't, I'm not going to sit around all day as 64GB of "required" stora- oh I mean bloatware to install on my system.
Windows used to function fine with 2GB of storage. It does NOT need 64GB and Microsoft can get fucked.
Jarmer@slrpnk.net 6 months ago
Windows 11 was what finally forced me over to linux for good, no more dual booting. I know it sounds strange, but the straw that broke its back was the taskbar. I have an ultrawide monitor, so I ALWAYS have the taskbar vertical on a side. It makes zero sense to have it at the bottom. Massive waste of space. Windows 11 DID NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE THE TASKBAR. I was flabbergasted. This is a feature that has existed for decades in every OS. I just couldn’t comprehend the stupidity, so I just didn’t. Formatted the drive and went to Arch, then to Tumbleweed. Couldn’t be happier.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I ran a poll a few years ago on Reddit asking people what event made them switch to Linux from some other platform. Interestingly enough it was not the EOL of a preferred version of Windows or MacOS, but the introduction of a dreaded new one. In other words, according to my poll, more people quit using Windows not because Win 7 support ended, but because Win 8 was released. Which was counterintuitive to me.
Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 6 months ago
It feels to me like every second version of Windoof is shit if you start at XP (my first Windoof OS, no experience with earlier ones):
- XP guhd
- Vista shite
- 7 guhd
- 8 shite
- 10 guhd
- 11 shite
Until now I was able to skip every second version and could wait until the newer and better one was released. But now it seems that I need to make a complete switch to a suitable gaming Linux OS. I don’t have any other use for Windoof.
Your poll results feel therefore relatable to me. I want a system that just works and with which I can do everything I need to. I don’t mind testing new features. Often I welcome them. But if I can already expect that I have to adjust to new features which are unavoidable, and from which I can tell – either by reading reviews or testing myself – that I really don’t like them, then of course I stay with the system which doesn’t have them as long as I can still do everything I need to.
Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Well, it’s been shown with previous releases and this one that Windows gets really pushy about upgrading long before EoL for the previous OS, so I can understand the frustration. Especially annoying if you’re running something like a kiosk or a TV app that doesn’t have mouse/keyboard readily available.
FunnyUsername@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I downloaded a third party app that re enables the windows 10 taskbar and lets you put it on the side. It’s called ExplorerPatcher. Cannot believe you can’t dock the win 11 taskbar on the side…what a choice…
Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
SAME! I like to have my taskbar at the top of the screen, and seeing that Microsoft had absolutely no intention of allowing it because of their oh so special start menu sent me over the edge. Been full time on Linux Mint for about a year now and I’m loving it. Proton and Lutris have made it surprisingly viable for gaming, to the point where I can runmost games without any troubleshooting.
MisterFrog@lemmy.world 6 months ago
This and the worse right-click menu make me dread the day I have to switch at work :/
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Microsoft needs to re-evaluate the support window, because nobody’s buying Windows 11. They fucked themselves with the high hardware requirements.
conditional_soup@lemm.ee 6 months ago
And an incomplete product; windows 11 was less functional at launch than windows 10. I’ve been a windows user since 98 and that’s the first time I can remember having said that. Sure, there were off editions that were weird and unpleasant, but I wouldn’t say less functional. Windows 11 just flat out was an incomplete product at launch.
And the live service dependencies: windows 11 pooping its diaper and having a fit about every other thing because it doesn’t have an Internet connection even though an Internet connection isn’t strictly necessary is a terrible UX choice. Anyone with half a brain knows it’s because MS has decided that if you won’t let them slurp that tasty, tasty data, then you shouldn’t be able to use the product you paid for.
And the plans to stuff ads into your operating system
And them basically doing the same shit that landed them huge anti-trust lawsuits in the 90s, but we’re doing it again because they figure they can make more money than the lawsuit will cost them, so fuck it.
There’s a lot to not like here.
Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 6 months ago
Sure, there were off editions that were weird and unpleasant, but I wouldn’t say less functional.
You could just say ME.
But I’m curious, have the issues you’ve described made you consider leaving Windows?
bort@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
There’s a lot to not like here.
the new snipping-tool is neat
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
They don’t have to make people buy it. They just have to stop supporting 10 and have no new machines with 10 pre installed. It will naturally invade our lives.
DarkThoughts@fedia.io 6 months ago
Right now we're releasing Windows 10, and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we're all still working on Windows 10.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That was an effort to get people to buy new machines. I loaded it on my gen 7 i7 and my gen 8. Both run it just fine but microsoft insists that one is good and one is bad. Its all about new sales.
johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I dunno if it’s the hardware requirements. The ads are the thing I don’t want. Not sure I see the point of moving the start menu either.
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Windows 11? Let’s see here…
Spyware/malware since that infamous Windows 7 update sending everything (including passwords) to Microsoft. Ads spread across the UI in W11. Simple features disabled. Bing Internet search results in the Start Menu that can’t be disabled unless you edit the registry. Search engine in the Start Menu cannot be changed. Numerous other previously simple settings changes that now require registry edits. Menu items gone, and others that still exist but inexplicable have been removed from the Start Menu search. Edge browser forced down your throat no matter what you set as the default browser. Upgrades that you can’t do at your convenience and forced restarts that happen even if you have open files that you’re editing. Long (sometimes really long) upgrade restart times. Forced Microsoft account use to install and use the OS. Internet access required to even install the OS. Absurdly inflexible hardware requirements that make no sense for most people. A taskbar that can’t be moved. Numerous programs and garbage spread through the OS that cannot be removed or disabled.
Besides that, what’s not to like?
capital_sniff@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You left out the forced rounded corners.
Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 6 months ago
Holy shit.
I fucking hate that rounded corner mania which is spreading all over UI design decisions almost everywhere you look.I can tolerate it with window borders, but if rounded corners hide content, e.g., of videos or images, it really irrationally infuriates me.
My screens are rectangular. Not rounded. I paid for those pixels, so fucking use them! ò_ó
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Windows 11 sucks ass, but I really get tired of people saying you are forced to use an account. There are multiple ways to make a local account in 11 when doing initial setup. It just sucks that it makes most people think that they have to use an account
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Regular users are absolutely forced to use a Microsoft account, no matter how tired you are. People shouldn’t have to be techies to keep their information private.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Yeah, this sounds like Louis Rossmann’s “rapist mentality” that he’s been harping on for a while. They think they own your hardware just because they make software, so they’ll force you to do whatever they think is “best” for you (which is probably using more of their products).
Just say no.
Software should give you an incentive to upgrade. I use Linux 100%, and I’m excited to use the next version because it’ll fix issues and add features that I’ll actually want to use. I’m on openSUSE, and here are some things that I’ve been excited about recently:
- KDE 6 - fixed Wayland for me, so I was able to switch back from GNOME
- reproducible builds - I can now theoretically verify that everything I install is built properly instead of having to trust them
- cockpit is coming to Leap 15.6 - YaST on the CLI is cool, but clunky; this sounds like I’d get largely the same thing, but through a web browser (i.e. access a port via SSH tunnel, no remote GUI required)
Software should entice you to upgrade, not force you to upgrade. That has never been the case for me for Windows, so I bailed and now use Linux, where it absolutely is the case.
NickwithaC@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I don’t think we should call it that but damned if the analogy doesn’t fit.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Yeah, perhaps “authoritarian mentality” would be better, but that doesn’t quite have the same ring to it.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 6 months ago
Yeah, I’m sure almost any other name is less charged…
discusseded@programming.dev 6 months ago
I loooove my openSUSE desktop. 11 was the last straw. No amount of AI is going to bring me back.
I HATE advertisements, and I paid for Pro but it seemed like they didn’t care. They want to milk me for everything I’m worth.
Good thing we have options. Linux has gotten so good, it’s better than Windows 11 while letting me decide how to use the OS. Big learning curve, but it’s smooth sailing when you get past it.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Its a downgrade. It offers nothing but ads. Who wants ads? Why do they feel the need to keep altering the interface? If microsoft manufactured automobiles they would switch the brake and gas pedals every other year.
xia@lemmy.sdf.org 6 months ago
ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“I grow tired of asking, so this will be the last time. Where is your Linux boot disk?”
xavier666@lemm.ee 6 months ago
“Help us Linus, you are our only hope”
Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m looking into backing up data so I can make the switch. We’re out here. For decades Windows was good enough. But this recent stuff is just ridiculous.
olafurp@lemmy.world 6 months ago
- Windows 95: Good
- Windows 98: Bad
- Windows 98 SE: Good
- Windows ME: Bad
- Windows XP: Good
- Windows Vista: Bad
- Windows 7: Good
- Windows 8: Bad
- Windows 10: Good
- Windows 11: ?
Why are people still surprised?
ghen@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I can’t really think of a reason why 10 is listed as good, does it actually do something better than 7? Even just graphical interface?
RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Windows 7 is good compared to Vista, but bad compared to Windows Xp SP 1 or SP 2 (in my memory at least). Windows 10 is good compared to Windows 8, but bad compared to Windows 7.
After a couple more years of MS pushing win 11, we’ll probably get a win 12 that is less good than win 10, but better than win 11, so thanks to people’s short term memory, it will then be considered “good”, but anyone with a memory and some critical thinking ability will recognize it as shite.
PrefersAwkward@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They put some under-the-hood improvements in 10 that they didn’t put in 7, such as a new display driver model and Directx 12.
But that does not make a difference to most people. Industry desupporting of Windows 7 is the biggest con to it.
Eventually, 10 will share 7’s fate. So you’ll have both 10’s regressions and 11’s and so forth to live with as long as you’re on Windows. You can’t stop Microsoft from desupporting and killing their software in the long run.
Microsoft has a multi-decade history of enshitification when they do not perceive any major threats. Internet Explorer, DirectX, Windows Server, etc. all rotted. Some of these are still active and supported, yes, but they all peaked years ago and are aging poorly. Microsoft doesn’t really do the labor of love thing much when customers are bagged.
Linux may be able to dethrone them to an extent if it can reach an ease of access/UX that most people are comfy with. And it has made huge strides over the years. It can also run most Windows software very well.
Mac is still priced very high and still feature-limited and a 2nd/3rd-class citizen when it comes to platform targeting. Offering lower priced conputers would make them a pretty big threat I think.
I think ChromeOS is a decent threat to Windows but it loses tons of features vs all the other options. At least it is really cheap and easy to use.
w2tpmf@lemmy.world 6 months ago
XP fucking sucked. It wasn’t good until service pack 3.
You skipped 8.1 which was the good version that fixed the stuff that sucked about 8. It’s existence is almost completely forgotten.
Then Windows 10 came out and it was bad.
They then had about a 10 different OS builds that all had the Windows 10 name instead of giving each build a new name or calling them service packs. The OS that exists now (22h2) has almost nothing in common with the OS that came out in 2015.
Windows 11 has also had several major leaps since that name started. What’s current (23h2) is much much different than the OS that came out in 2021.
NickwithaC@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Windows 2000 is also missing and was probably the last time Microsoft put out an OS that was good from the start rather than sucking on release.
Also the ones listed as bad from Vista onwards simply never got the improvements.
Tick_Dracy@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I agree with everything you write, but I’ll also add an unpopular opinion as someone who tested the beta version of Vista and hated it: Vista x64 SP2 was a good OS, which solved most of the issues that existed with the OS.
And into this day, it’s the most beautiful Windows UI, at least for me.
drathvedro@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Windows 10: Good
People keep repeating that but it’s by far the worst and actually the one that made me bail. What is it that good about it that made it worth sacrificing user choice, privacy, performance, latency, search, startup time, solitaire, and much more?
NaoPb@eviltoast.org 6 months ago
If you include 98SE you should also include 8.1. Or include neither. But then it wouldn’t make sense anymore.
Telodzrum@lemmy.world 6 months ago
XP SP2 is what everyone remembers, too. It wasn’t very good at release and a lot of people stayed on 2000.
joe_cool@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Good stopped existing after 7. Only bad and slightly less bad.
Deebster@programming.dev 6 months ago
You’re missing Windows 2000, but I guess you can argue that’s Windows NT not mainline Windows. That was definitely in the good camp, and I was not alone in sticking with it for many years.
KrapKake@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Y’all need to get yourselves that Windows 10 2021 LTSC IoT badboy (IoT part is important). It’s supported until 2032 and it’s only bloat is edge. If I had to use windows again it would be that. Maybe it’s downside would be software complaining in the future that the OS is too old, but I would say it’s worth a shot if you have to use Windows.
farllen@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
That’s one hell of a thumbnail
exanime@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Maybe I’d they added more ads I’d be tempted to use it…
/S
southernbrewer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I had to help my sister keep her 8 year old Mac going or buy a new secondhand (cheap) machine. With the options out there and with the state of Windows, I didn’t even consider it.
She’s ended up with her same 7 year old Mac with Ubuntu 24.04, and I’ve been really impressed with how it’s actually great for non-technical users these days! And works really well on old hardware.
This should give her another few years of life out of the thing without worrying about software support.
Flatfire@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
It’s frustrating. There’s a lot of Windows 11 that I do actually like: Massively improved HDR support, far better DPI scaling features, tabbed file browsing, a unified control panel again (yes I know if you look hard enough you can find legacy panels), configurable snapping regions for Windows, gaming focused features with screen recording, intelligent capture, etc. On the power user side: the terminal, winget, built in ssh support and broader compatibility with Linux development toolchains, and if you’re the kind of person with a family or friends you do tech support for regularly the Quick Assist’s current iteration is a godsend.
But then the tradeoff is ads, increased telemetry, AI integrations, inability to move the taskbar, a piss-poor local file search, increasingly restrictive desktop customizations via third party tools, shorter support periods for Windows feature updates, and generally a lack of overall feature control due to low level integration with core Windows services.
I don’t think Windows 11 is a bad operating system in the sense that I believe it to be a marked improvement on a feature by feature comparison to Windows 10. But it feels like two development arms at Microsoft are consistently at war with eachother. Some want to implement really cool features and tools for end users, and the others are hellbent on locking the system down and forcing this Apple philosophy of “use it like we want you to”.
BluesF@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I must admit I’m on the edge of jumping ship, even the software which has been keeping me locked to windows is getting less and less appealing.
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I am so glad I seitched to linux for 95% of my tasks and only need to boot windows once per month
snownyte@kbin.social 6 months ago
We see this everytime a new Windows comes around.
You'll have your hopeless Windows users who're equally as bad as Apple cultists. Screaming at you to upgrade because "THE SECURITY! THINK OF THE SECURITY! YOUR SYSTEM WILL FUCKING DIE IF YOU DON'T GET YOURSELF SECURED!1!1" when all you fucking do is just check e-mail, oh my god. /s
But the fight to resist upgrading has gotten longer and will get longer. Going by the Windows OS global stats of it's marketshare, 3% are still clinging to Win7. 23% hopped to Win11. 70% is still Windows 10.
By the time Windows 10 loses it's extended support (that isn't the Enterprise edition), we're going to see the changes then.
macrocephalic@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They should have just kept incrementally upgrading W10. People don’t like big changes and there’s not much encouraging people to 11 except 10 going EOL.
Moorshou@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
I wonder what’s happening?
For me, It’s linux mint on my main PC, goodbye windows.
Coreidan@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Huh. So shitting on your customers is a bad thing?
Wow who would have thought….
danielfgom@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I use Linux at home exclusively (Linux Mint Debian Edition).
Don’t need Windows for anything but when I worked Enterprise IT the move to Windows 10 was a massive pain but we finally got it working and it wasn’t too bad as an OS. There is no reason why you’d want to upgrade.
As for home users, from my experience people don’t like change. If you move a single shortcut on the desktop , they are lost and panic .
So changing the entire look of the UI is not something people want. Plus Windows 10 auto update borked some windows 7 systems so users with that memory won’t be keen to repeat it by upgrading to 11.
cRazi_man@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I keep checking videos on YouTube from time to time about whether it is worth upgrading to Win 11 now (which people keep releasing regularly). Keep deciding it’s not worth changing.
Then I sold my laptop and had to use my Steam Deck for a couple of months. At that point I thought if I’m going to learn a different OS, then I might as well go all the way and jump over to Linux. Been very happy with OpenSUSE ever since.
Fisk400@feddit.nu 6 months ago
I literally can’t install it even if I wanted to. If they removed that requirement the rollout would be the same as any other update.
hperrin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Good. Windows 11 is trash.
daniskarma@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I can’t wait for massive security problems on corporations once they shut down W10 support and those corporation considering if keeping with windows is woth the risk and the cost anymore.
bastonia@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Bro I moved to Linux years ago. I dont use Windows at all
Vaggumon@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I’ve already decided I’ll be going full Linux when Win10 reaches EOL.
Entity1@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I can vouch for that I have windows 11 and I want to go back to windows 10
HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 months ago
lol
fluckx@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It enticed me to start gaming on Linux. So its definitely doing some enticing
delirium@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I thought I was alone in this lol
Win11 literally made me rage uninstall it after I got mad trying to remove all bloatware and then it showed me onedrive ad
isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world 6 months ago
What was your experience switching over to Linux and getting it set up for gaming?
Toribor@corndog.social 6 months ago
If you primarily game using Steam then it’s easier than ever on most popular distros. Biggest hassle is likely still GPU drivers. I’ve never had any issues there but depending on what card you have you may be better off with either proprietary or FOSS drivers depending on what your distro of choice likes to provide by default. After that most games tend to just work, a handful may require you to pick a beta version of proton or something.
If you want to try it and don’t want to do a lot of tinkering check out PopOS. It’s probably the friendliest distro for gaming out of the box.
fluckx@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The main setup went smooth. I can recommend nobara which is what I used. I tried garuda as well, but it wasn’t my style. Personal preference, no hate :).
Most steam games work pretty good ( see protondb ). ( make sure to set your steam settings > compatibility to all games ).
Any game with invasive anti-cheat will likely not work. LoL and valorant come to mind. I think some of the cs2 ones like faceit won’t work on Linux. But standard cs2 and competitive work fine.
Battle.net gave me some issues on lutris until I forced it to proton.
Overall I’ve had a good experience. Sometimes a weird issue if I alt tab ( hots ) that it comes back super tiny. I worked around it by running it windowed fullscreen.
Overall I’ve no regrets so far. I installed nobara and it’s quite user friendly. I’ve never used a fedora distro before ( more extensive experience with xubuntu/Ubuntu/pop ).
Helldivers 2, heroes of the storm and ff crisis core worked flawlessly.
Hots needs to run full screen ( windowed ) or alt-tab will make the screen tiny for some reason.
So far: no regrets.
When you first play a game it needs to compile the shaders first. So on your initial game there’s a few minutes ramp up time. But any next times you start the game should be fine.
Statlerwaldorf@midwest.social 6 months ago
I switched over from Win10 to PopOS! about a month ago. It hasn’t been 100% painless but it’s leaps and bounds better than the last time I tried to switch 5-10 years ago. For reference I’m in an AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU, NVME drives for both the system and game drives, SATA for a data drive, NAS for media. I’ve only reinstalled once because I broke everything tinkering with different desktop environments, but it was an easy recovery with the install media.
All the correct drivers were installed from the get go. I managed to overwrite my cloud save for Horizon Forbidden West because of an issue mounting my game drive and mapping the correct install location in Steam, but that was 90% on me because I rejected the idea of making a backup copy of the files because “I know what I’m doing”. I ended up wiping my game drive entirely and reformatting it as EXT4 and haven’t had any problems since - the drive was NTFS before and had a handful of games already installed from Windows.
A couple games require finding the right Proton version to run it, but GE works flawlessly for most things I’ve tried. Everything has run as fast or faster than in Windows with the exception of WH4K: Darktide. There’s some microsecond delay in there somewhere that I couldn’t pin down. Didn’t seem to be video or network related. It’s the kind of thing that I bet I wouldn’t notice if it were my first time playing the game, but since I’ve got a couple hundred hours in it, it is just enough to throw me off and make me feel slightly drunk.
ArachnidMania@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Not the original poster, but my experience was fairly smooth. I had minor issues with wifi drivers, and I got a new GPU that had some driver issues because it was pretty recently released (I guess the open source drivers didn’t have time to be updated?) In terms of actual gaming. Basically none, I mainly use steam and proton has been bliss, I’ve bought multiple games without even checking compatibility, and it just works. To my knowledge there is only one old game where the multiplayer doesn’t work, but everything else has been seamless.
femtech@midwest.social 6 months ago
Base Ubuntu with the non snap version of steam has been great. I only play a few games, helldivers, some rouglites, and apex. The thing I miss with windows is HDR and auto HDR. HDR will be added in plasma 6 but I had issues with it on KDE Neon but once it’s on a stable build it will be good.
figjam@midwest.social 6 months ago
I’ve started doing non-gaming on my steam deck. Not a lot but its let me use Linux in a very basic way.