Geez Microsoft, I wonder why? If a product is good, then it doesn’t need to be pushed onto consumers.
Windows 11 just isn't enticing Windows 10 users to upgrade, and its market share is actually falling
Submitted 6 months ago by ylai@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.world
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obsolete@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It slowed down my desktop experience significantly. Like it makes no sense at all. One day I’m working I solidworks on windows 10 and old computer at acceptable speed, the next I get assigned a new, bastly improved computer, with windows 11 and solidworks latest version, and it’s slow as fuck! I just want to end it sometimes. It lags, it crashes, it’s worthless! SW is worthless on its own, but with windows 11 its like 10 times worse. I think they are actually serving it on a server secretly and we are just remoting into it. It behaves almost exactly as when using remote desktop. It’s terrible and I want it gone!
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Honestly, Windows 11 works quite well, as a Windows system, but it feels unfinished. It feels like Microsoft pushed out a pre-release built and it trying to rush out fixes and completion patches.
And it’s not even as if I care one much one way or another, I moved away from Windows ages ago (decades, really). I only keep a partition around for the odd game, and it’s just staying around so that I can setup my Oculus CV1 again one of these days. It got upgraded to Win11, but probably hasn’t booted in over a year.
I boot Windows sometimes on my laptop where I kept a small 200MB partition, mostly to see what it looks like nowadays. I’m not certain the various updates are making the experience better (at least judging from my quick twenty minutes, tour, so that’s admittedly not worth much).
chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Its the only version of windows i ever had where the start menu of all thing stopped functioning. I had to restart. Wtf?
fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
What’s the big deal with Windows 11?
I don’t use either win 10 nor win 11 much but I do know that I barely notice the difference.
I thought it was just a start menu rearrangement or something.
4am@lemm.ee 6 months ago
There’s a lot more telemetry. They’re stuffing ads into it (start menu, explorer panels, etc). They’re creeping generative cloud AI into it. The control panel/setting situation is unbelievably unfinished (for myself, all my audio devices take the name of other audio devices so they’re all working but mislabeled). A recent update broke all VPNs. High system requirements. Locking down features. Removal of customization. Buggy updates. Slow.
snownyte@kbin.social 6 months ago
Not trying to defend Win11 too much here. But the system requirements aren't bad until you see how much storage it needs and how much it needs for all of the unnecessary fancy junk they put in to have the "best Windows experience" like Windows Hello.
Microsoft initially wanted to get rid of Control Panel entirely, which would stick us to the bare set of options we've been seeing degrade since Windows 8.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
How would you notice a difference in something you have no experience with?
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You don’t need to actively use something to have a general idea of it. Maybe it’s not on his machine but he sees friends/family use it. Maybe he’s seen ads, reviews, YouTube videos, articles.
I’ve never watched NASCAR in my life but I’m fairly certain I could point out differences between one of those cars and an F1 car.
fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
I didn’t say I have no experience.
Longpork3@lemmy.nz 6 months ago
People are still using windows?
aniki@lemm.ee 6 months ago
At this point just the chuds.
BuT ThAtS LiKe 90% oF alL UsErs, PohtoShOp, VidYaGamEs, HeRp DeRp
I didn’t fucking stutter.
Damaskox@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I think Win10 already is everything what I need.
I have gotten a small feel of 11 from my girlfriend’s laptop - it feels alright.
But I think I won’t have reasons to upgrade. I haven’t studied 11 at all so I don’t even know am I missing something lol
barsquid@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That’s weird. Do people not want ads in the computers they paid for begging them to subscribe to their own hardware? Do people not want LLM models watching everything they do and reporting back to headquarters? So perplexing. Welp, the users have spoken, hopefully Microsoft can figure out how to iterate. Maybe they want more ads and AI all over?
egeres@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Why did the emoji picker of W11 get so fucking downgraded?
Lesrid@lemm.ee 6 months ago
And the windows P multi monitor control doesn’t work before login in 11 because it’s part of the taskbar now
dlrht@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Seriously can someone fix this
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 6 months ago
Nested right click Windows are a deal breaker on their own before any real issues even pop up
Luxbux84@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That thumbnail looks almost exactly as I would expect Zombie Jamie Hyneman to look like.
ezterry@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Honestly, windows gamers upgrade to windows 11, Linux users stay on Linux, and everyone else is on android/ios and in no hurry to do anything about the laptop collecting dust most of the time.
Companies are also more likely to pay the extended support a year or two and update when the computer is replaced.
Its only on here on the fediverse people have time to complain about windows 11. (well some of the gamers might but more likely due to unstable systems on the newest i9 chips, since you launch steam, discord and a browser and alt tab between them… ignoring the start menu)
Capitao_Duarte@lemmy.eco.br 6 months ago
Here seems like people think everyone will say “welp, that’s it, goig linux!”. Dude, most peo0le I’ve talked about it, regular people who don’t spent their lives experimenting with tech, don’t even know what linux is
rodneylives@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Once, I was asked if I wanted a special offer on Microsoft Office on boot up. Explorer freezes so often for me when I right-click a file and select Open With that it’s made me twitchy. Frequently image icons stop displaying. For a long while, every time I’ve installed Windows on a computer, I’ve had to go through and disable all the awful misfeatures Windows tries to put in the taskbar. I also always have to set OneDrive so it doesn’t redirect folders like Desktop and Documents into its cloud storage area. Now Windows 11 is threatening to put CoPilot on my desktop, and I’ll have to disable it too.
I’m positively longing for Linux now.
njordomir@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I had to do all the same things on my work computer. If MS could stop shitting all over my taskbar that would be an amazing expression of basic decency. I’m about to go to IT and ask for a Linux computer that I can test with my day to day tools to make sure everything works. Typically only a few devs have them and thise of us in support roles are on Windows. Microsoft is literally sapping away the time and effort my employer has paid me to put towards their customers.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 months ago
My daughter has a Windows 10 notebook for school. We haven’t seen a reason to upgrade yet. If Windows made a “never bother you again about anything you don’t want to be bothered about” version of Windows 11, we’d upgrade because that’s so fucking annoying. I hate Windows.
ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 6 months ago
I want to just convert to using my Fedora 40 KDE install, but there are just too many blockers for me, both hardware and software.
nutsack@lemmy.world 6 months ago
too bad you have no choice soon good luck
kalpol@lemm.ee 6 months ago
You forgot Windows 2000 which was good
sansrealname@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Let’s also not forget Windows NT, Windows 2000 predecessor.
geography082@lemm.ee 6 months ago
The problem would be the push they are doing on corporations to move to 11. I know multiple cases they are struggling to do so because the mess windows 11 does with other custom applications.
NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 6 months ago
What a joke 🤣
SacrificedBeans@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Oh no. This is terrifying.
I don’t have an issue with win 11 since I disabled the ads. But these news smell like new and unnecessary “advancements”, to make it more marketable. They’ll ruin it completely…
arc@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I have Windows 11 on a couple of machines and honestly it’s just Windows 10 with a somewhat slicker taskbar and control panel. Functionally it is almost identical. I’m sure there is a random bunch of changes on the periphery but it’s really not a compelling proposition if someone has Windows 10 and is happy with it.
andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I’m still having troubles to understand why’d they even want Windows 11 to happen and I’d really like some more informed people to help me out.
They had massive mergers as an unpredicted expense. I also don’t know many people who bought the last XBOX unlike previous gens or ever used MS Store. Is that sweet lobbying money from hardware producers? I thought they planned Windows X as the peak Windows platform to then sell internal products (game-as-a-service but OS), so did this plan failed?
Windows 11 looks like an afterthought and the centered taskbar may be intentionally put there to make it look different from Win10 while it’s probably the least changed new release as I learnt after a brief encounter with it (after XP, I don’t know much about earlier OSes).
Had they just run out of money?