It might be because of security.
Comment on Plex now will SELL your personal data
Selfhoster1728@infosec.pub 10 months ago
I don’t know why everyone in the selfhosting community still even mentions Plex or uses it.
It’s closed source, not free; Jellyfin is a no brainer yet people still go to Plex??
overstep8556@jlai.lu 10 months ago
teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
I don’t know why people use dishwashers. It’s in the kitchen. A lawn mower is a no brainer, yet people still use dishwashers??
IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Jellyfins UI being only mouse based is garbage. Using it on Xbox for instance is terrible.
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’ll switch to jellyfin as soon as it works nearly as well.
But for the moment it’s missing a lot of features compared to Plex.
s38b35M5@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I completely agree. I thought Plex would be fast in the collective rearview mirror as soon as they started forcing connections to their servers, pay-walling, etc. I also had issues with the database corrupting and causing huge slowdowns. I spent days trying and failing to preserve my ratings, watch data, etc.
In the end, I switched to a much simpler setup of an NFS/CIFS share accessed by Kodi on my Nvidia Shield TV. If Kodi chokes (happened once since 2017), I can just wipe the app and/or reinstall and then import the local metadata (XML or NFO IIRC). That takes about five minutes. It just works. Kodi also gives me access to the IAGL, so that’s a huge plus.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Because it works. Call me in a few years when movies, TV shows, dvr recordings, live TV (with free, built-in guide support), and working picture support shows up. Oh, commercial removal too (again, built-in, just check a box). A not-shit setup process would be nice, too.
I’ve tried jf three times now across as many years, and it’s still got that ‘Linux developer feel’ of a tool where the devs got what they need the most mostly-working, and just don’t give a fuck about anything else - or a decent UI. No, blue boxes on a black background is not a decent UI. It wasn’t when W8 launched, and it’s not now. And when W8 is winning the competition, you’ve already lost.
Feature parity or the argument is moot.
JGrffn@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I host a Plex server for close to 70 friends and family members, from multiple parts of the world. I have over 60TBs of movies, tv shows, anime, anime movies, and flac music, and everyone can connect directly to my server via my reverse proxy and my public IPs. This works on their phones, their tvs, their tablets and PCs. I have people of all ages using my server, from very young kids to very old grandparents of friends. I have friends who share their accounts with their families, meaning I probably have already hit 100+ people using my server. Everyone is able to request whatever they want through overseerr with their Plex account, and everything shows up pretty instantly as soon as it is found and downloaded. It works almost flawlessly, whether locally or remotely, from anywhere in the world. I myself don’t even reside in the same home that my Plex server resides. I paid for my lifetime pass over 10 years ago.
Can you guarantee that I can move over to jellyfin and that every single person currently using my Plex server will continue having the same level of experience and quality of life that they’re having with my Plex server currently? Because if you can’t, you just answered your own question. Sometimes we self host things for ourselves and we can deal with some pains, but sometimes we require something that works for more people than just us, and that’s when we have to make compromises. Plex is not perfect, and is actively becoming enshittified, but I can’t simply dump it and replace it with something very much meant for local or single person use rather than actively serving tens to hundreds of people off a server built with OTC components.
Ferrous@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
It’s not fair to characterize jellyfin as being unable to scale.
Jellyfin has great support for setups that include numerous users. The entire dashboard is basically designed around this concept of an admin keeping track of dozens upon dozens of users.
You seem like you have many reservations about specific functions in Jellyfin, but you were vague in explaining thrm - what specific things are you worried about?
kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Can I guarantee? There are no guarantees in self hosting. By this logic you can never move away from Plex. There’s always unknowns. There’s always new issues to trip over. Plex is hardly without it’s own warts, but because they’re ‘known’ to you and your users nothing else will ever be able to measure up.
It’s a logical fallacy and a trap.
I set up Jellyfin basically overnight when the Plex pass changes occurred. Reverse proxies are trivial, as are docker containers, don’t let the anecdotes about things being hard or VPN being needed intimidate you.
There were absolutely bumps in the road. I had to make users for each person and email them customized sign-up links. Yes, that kinda sucked, but that’s the price for running and controlling the authentication yourself instead of though a 3rd party service that can and absolutely will eventually use that data to snoop.
Most of the time, once sent the link the users were fine, 9/10 of my users had no further issues and quickly adapted. For the last 1/10, I had to trouble shoot a few things and eventually ended up recommending a different device to connect with (it was an old TV with a really old version of Plex for TVs, they ended up buying a $40 Google TV device from Walmart and got set up that way).
The whole time I was running both Plex and Jellyfin so the migration process could happen at my speed.
My point is this: no, it wasn’t painless to switch. Yes, some tech support was required. Yes, the user who was getting hundreds of dollars (annually) of streaming services effectively for free had to shell out a paltry sum to upgrade and actually enjoys their experience much more now. No, that didn’t make it impossible or not worth doing.
I’m not saying what’s best for you and your users, and I’m absolutely not guaranteeing you’ll have no issues beyond these, but I hope you understand your hands aren’t actually tied, you’re just boxing yourself in.
Selfhoster1728@infosec.pub 10 months ago
That’s just the nature of service migration; of course for people like you who are very dependent on it, it’s not a no-brainer, but for anyone who wants to start hosting one of the two, yes it will be.
In your case yes Plex is more appropriate but at the same time the clock is ticking for Plex if they continue on this route…
obinice@lemmy.world 10 months ago
My TV doesn’t have a Jellyfin app, only a Plex app. I’m not buying a new TV just to use my preferred media server, sadly :-(
borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
This is why you shouldn’t use the built-in TV OS. Use an Apple TV, Nvidia Shield, fire stick if you’re fine with ads, a tiny NUC would work, maybe a raspberry Pi although idk about that one.
catloaf@lemm.ee 10 months ago
You can cast jellyfin to any receiver. I use a Chromecast.
Hearing people think they need an app just to use their TV as a TV is painful.
tuhriel@infosec.pub 10 months ago
The point for me is, that I have an acient synology NAS (ds214play) which acts as my media server. There is a community made plex package which I can install easily. As far as I have seen, there is no way to install jellyfin on this NAS, as it doesn’t support docker
akilou@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Jellyfin is hardly a no-brainer. I set it up out of curiosity a few weeks ago and my first question was how do I give access to my friends and family. So I searched, and all of the results were talking about setting up a VPN or a reverse proxy or whatever. Man, I just want to tell my mom “install this app on your tv and log in”, which is exactly what Plex does.
I get that Plex is enshittifying, but pretending Jellyfin is a drop-in replacement is delusional.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
So I searched, and all of the results were talking about setting up a VPN or a reverse proxy or whatever.
The best thing is, you can’t use a reverse proxy with it, it doesn’t even support it.
octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
Odd, since my Jellyfin sits behind a reverse proxy.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Oh, right, it was basic auth (behind a reverse proxy, or even in general) that Jellyfin doesn’t support and isn’t planned to support IIRC.
akilou@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I don’t even know what a reverse proxy is
VitabytesDev@feddit.nl 10 months ago
Since you need to self-host Jellyfin, then you are responsible for making the service public.
Auli@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
So I told people download app enter this url and login. I even send out an email inviting them so they can click the link and create their own username and password. Then if they forget their password they can ask for a reset link.
AugustWest@lemm.ee 10 months ago
“install this app on your tv and log in”, which is exactly what Plex does
Yes, but that person has to create an account. Everyone has to create an account. With Plex. Some people I know immediately say no, others are annoyed that plex would try and shake them down for money.
If you configure Jellyfin, all that goes away. THEN they can simply download the app and login.
akilou@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I make the account for them. Then I log in as them and set it up so they only see my server. Then I send them the credentials and have them login
Ulrich@feddit.org 10 months ago
and all of the results were talking about setting up a VPN or a reverse proxy or whatever. Man, I just want to tell my mom “install this app on your tv and log in”,
This is why I use Yunohost. It makes all of that just a “click buttons” affair. Then you can tell your Mom the same thing. Only the domain is yours so Jellyfin can’t hold it over your head.
akilou@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Does it work on a smart tv or roku or whatever?
Ulrich@feddit.org 10 months ago
Yeah they have apps on all the platforms.
themachine@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Jellyfin is a fully self hosted drop in. That means it’s up to the server operator to handle everything. You would still tell your mom to just install the Jellyfin app on her TV with the one additional step in your server address which you would tell her.
But yes, you as the operator have to do some extra things like implementating a reverse proxy and if hosting out of your home make necessary network configuration changes to accommodate this access.
ginopilotino@lemm.ee 10 months ago
You as server operator also have to check what device your mom has and point her to what app download, because Jellyfin doesn’t have an app for everything
themachine@lemmy.world 10 months ago
True though that’s less server operator and more “just being helpful to your mom”. That said it seems nowadays that a Jellyfin app is available on most devices/ecosystems (or maybe I just don’t have experience with enough devices to have an accurate idea).
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
I’m not a hardcore tech person and this is exactly the issue for me as well.
I want to be able to stream my music collection when I’m away from home without having to get an associate’s degree in networking.
AugustWest@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Tailscale makes this easy if you are only user.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 10 months ago
Easy if the device you’re trying to listen on has a tailscale app and a JellyFin app, which is unlikely unless you’re using your phone or a tablet/pc.
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
I’ll look into Tailscale then. I’m guessing there’s something funky about adding additional users. I would eventually like to add one or two other people.
DarkPassenger@lemmy.world 10 months ago
There is one thing I want from jellyfin. It is to be able to login from their Android app to watch or set something to record without jumping through a bunch of hoops.
cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
I just want to tell my mom “install this app on your tv and log in”
I mean, if I didn’t know better, I’d start to suspect that the large multimedia corporations building walled gardens of apps in closed Smart TV ecosystems don’t really want you to be able to easily tell your mom how to watch shit for free. I mean they’ll let you, if you really insist on having that app available, but someone will have to pay THEM money instead first. That’s their racket.
The reason Plex can do it is because they do make money, doing shitty stuff like this to their users, so they can use that money to open these doors into SmartTV-land. The root of the problem is that your SmartTV itself is a locked down proprietary piece of shit, and there are few convenient workarounds that are available to us, because of course they make workarounds as inconvenient as possible.
Unless you’re willing to ditch everything proprietary and insist on open technology for everything, which is hard on its own, you’re going to end up with a janky mix of proprietary and open systems that always require some compromises, because the proprietary stuff forces us to compromise. It’s literally a “this is why we can’t have nice things” situation.
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 10 months ago
Or… You know… Jellyfin could make it so I don’t have to setup elaborate VPN schemes and have every user install that on every one of their devices. For example they could fix their security issues to make it safer to expose JF through a reverse proxy, bug they refuse to not break client compatibility
catloaf@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Jellyfin is a no-brainer. Publishing services on the Internet is complex.
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 10 months ago
If they adhered to somewhat modern security principles for their Backend I wouldn’t mind hosting it behind a reverse proxy. But since large parts of the API is unauthorized and unprotected, I wont.
And I do not plan on supporting family and friends in setting up vpns on all of their devices
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 10 months ago
What are the worries behind it? Last time someone was worried about the security it was about knowing filenames of the stuff you host by brute forcing iirc
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
[deleted]catloaf@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Yeah, but then you’re not self-hosting, you’re paying or using their free services to manage that for you.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Seconded it’s not a no-brainer. I spent days trying to get it set up with Docker on two different computers and three different distros. It wouldn’t install, if it did install it had errors, if it would even open at all with anything other than a black screen. Hours trying to search how to fix it. I gave up and installed it as a standalone app on a common distro. Not as convenient, but FML it finally worked. Really felt like I wasted my time. Personally, this is the exact bullshit linux fanatics completely ignore when they insist on how great linux is vs whatever. I’ve got a shitload of patience, willpower and modest skill to try to get something like this working, but 99% of the population doesn’t. That’s why linux will stay on the back burner. And if it ever becomes just as easy as Windows…guess what? You’ll have many of the same problem as Windows.
beastlykings@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I’ve definitely pulled my hair out with docker too. Banged my head against the wall for a couple days before finally giving up.
I’m not ridiculously tech savvy, but I’ve tinkered with Linux since I was young, daily drive it on my laptop. I’m not afraid of the command line, and I’m smart enough to search for help and guides when I need it.
But something about docker just breaks my brain. Maybe I’m too old and there’s too much abstract thought required, I don’t know. But I can’t figure it out.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 months ago
IMO it was my hardware on the first tries. Not sure what your problem was, but after digging around I found something that loosely indicated that my hardware was too old or something - it didn’t play well with the onboard graphics or similar. But the second hardware set I tried it on was far newer, and after all the installation was complete I got a black screen. Every time. No matter which guide I used, no matter what dependencies I thought might be missing or whatever I tried to get it working. A hair pulling experience indeed.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 10 months ago
You struggled to set up Jellyfin with docker?
Damn
MXX53@programming.dev 10 months ago
I am a devops engineer and application architect who spends their entire day developing automated docker deployments for custom applications from scratch and I manage all our reverse proxies and TLS termination and certificates.
5 years ago, I wouldn’t have been able to tell you what a docker container really was. Thankfully migrating legacy apps to docker on Linux hosts is my full time job and it has allowed me to become proficient enough in a fairly short amount of time.
We all have to start somewhere and shitting on someone for not knowing something now will dissuade them from ever learning it and potentially remove a future contributor to the open source tech stack before they ever even get started.
LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
I have Plex running alongside Jellyfin.
When transcoding video, Plex uses an extra 5 watts of power. Jellyfin uses an extra 55 watts.
Jellyfin also has security holes for accessing videos via URL without being authenticated.
I don’t feel like Jellyfin is ready for being exposed to the internet.
GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Can’t access remote unless u setup port forwarding, NAT rule etc etc. Too much work with jelly bin, plus it looks like 1990s UI created by illegal IPTV distributors
NickwithaC@lemmy.world 10 months ago
There’s no jellyfin app on my TV.
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
It’s already setup, and a lack of motivation/time/energy/urgency to make the change…
hddsx@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
I don’t use either service. Do they serve the same purpose?
PhAzE@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Probably because it works well, and has working clients on everything at this point. For some, a one-time fee was worth it when it was cheaper.
Sharing is also easier, as your friends just sign up to a plex account and you share your library with them. No need to send them an ip address and port, or fqdn that you have to maintain if your isp changes your ip address. It has its benefits, tbh, and the core sharing features still work for streaming. All the extra crap you can just turn off.
That why I think its still popular.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
[deleted]FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
Jellyfin is basically as easy to use as plex within the same network. I’ve set up both dueing the past 6 months. The only big difference is that plex is much more of a pain to work through port forwarding.
Genius@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
Plex never worked outside my network so I’m not worried about that on Jellyfin
non_burglar@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I don’t mean to diminish your comment, but I just went through the setup process for both Plex and jellyfin (moving to new hardware) and there was no significant difference between the setups.
Maybe this wasn’t the case a few years ago, but jellyfin is just a setup, point to libraries, and enable hardware accel.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
[deleted]jagermo@feddit.org 10 months ago
My Jellyfin tunnels via traefik and cloudflared. However, the normal Android app somehow can’t login, but streamyfin works like a charm. I always had issues with plex, because it relied on their own service. But jellyfin now simply works, pretty nifty
non_burglar@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yep. My son lives in another city and uses my jellyfin server. Actually since yesterday, because Plex stopped allowing him to watch remotely.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
what? It’s not like everyone needs to run jeyfin at home. the oy thing you need to use is the jeyfin webapp, which I don’t understand how is it more complicated than netflix or any other similar service. you log in, pick a movie and hit play. that’s it.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
[deleted]gdog05@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Have you set up jellyfish at your home, given access to a friend outside of your network who could not setup Jellyfin themselves, and successfully got them playing on their TV, table tablet, and/or phone? Have you been able to set them up without them having to call you every week?
Yes. It’s very easy. It might not have used to be easy but it is for the last couple of years. Dead simple. About a dozen people use my Jellyfin server across TV’s, phones, tablets, laptops. None of them are what I would call techies. It’s as simple for them as Netflix.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Because this is the selfhosted community, not the FOSS community. That being said, yeah don’t use Plex.
dmtalon@infosec.pub 10 months ago
“still even mentions plex”
I’ve been using plex for a LONG time, and bought a lifetime plexpass 12 years ago. I’m pretty sure I haven’t started a thread on Lemmy regarding Plex, but I’m sure I’m not alone as a LONG TIME user. Plex just works for me and cost me $75 in 2013. Right now I’ve got no pressing reason to switch.
If they remove my plexpass features, or start showing me ads / making my user experience worse, then I’ll probably look to change, and won’t participate in these awful ‘plex’ posts.
oxjox@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Another longtime user here. If you haven’t already, you might want to disable autoupdates on all your devices. The “new experience” is not without its controversies.
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 10 months ago
Yeah, first thing I did after testing the new app. Still don’t know why they feel the need to push this out so aggressively instead of letting it run in parallel until its ready
Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
Same. I bought the lifetime pass on sale many years ago, my setup is still working fine without me having to have touched it for at least the past 3 years outside of applying an update from time to time. I don’t stream their free shows or movies and have those setup so that they don’t even show up as an option on my tv.
Do I wish it was still the same company it was a decade ago? Of course… but so far they haven’t impacted my experience to the point that I feel the need to replace it with something else. The second that happens I will be spinning up Jellyfin.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Plex was the reason why I learned Docker + watchtower, so that I wouldn’t have to worry about updates (work smarter not harder). Now I have like 35 containers and am comfortable with docker. 🐳
dmtalon@infosec.pub 10 months ago
Yep, exactly, when they screw me I’ll leave
PhAzE@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Same with ke, 12 years, about $70, and it still works just as well as ever. I turn off any new features I don’t want, my friends and family can still streams from me for free since I have plex pass already, and its easy to share without having to pass around my ip address.
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 10 months ago
For me it’s PlexAmp and the few tech-illiterate friends I have who use my server for video streaming. 99% of the time, I just watch movies on my desktop with VLC player but I’ve yet to find a self-hosting music player half as good as PlexAmp
Fergie434@lemmy.world 10 months ago
For me it’s chromecast support. Maybe Jellyfin has that now but it didn’t last time I checked.
catloaf@lemm.ee 10 months ago
When did you check? I’ve been using it that way for over a year.
Getting6409@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Maybe you’ve tried it already, but navidrome is a great purpose built music streamer. I was using subsonic back in the day, then airsonic, then airsonic advanced. When I first got on navidrome it was a tough pill to swallow since I never maintained my tags, but I gave a little time here and there to comb through it and in the end it feels like a worthwhile investment. It paid off a little bit more when I adopted lyrion music server and squeeze players for local playback around the home since this organizes by the same tags (mostly), so the whole library is kind of plug and play with things that honor the same tags.
user224@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
Who downvoted you?
Anyway, if you have directory-based music organization, Navidrome won’t take that sadly. However, it will take m3u playlists.
So I can just
ls playlistdir/* > Playlist.m3uand get that directory as a playlist. Simple, lazy solution.
Oh, you can also add internet radios to Navidrome.And one cool trick, which is also pretty good to test out Navidrome without effort, in Termux it is already in the repos, so you can just effort-free
apt install navidrome, run it and play around.Privacy
Notable config:
EnableInsightCollector = ‘false’
www.navidrome.org/docs/getting-started/insights/Getting6409@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Yeah that was the tough pill to swallow, moving away from folder based (the old *sonic gang) to tag based navidrome. Not for everyone, but getting your tags in order opens up some nice doors.
They publish a container image as part of their releases, and you can manage everything with environment variables. If you’re used to running containers I’d say this is even easier for testing and playing around.
killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I just use Jellyfin for this too, not sure I follow the issue but I haven’t used Plex since migrating
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
Yeah, the sad reality is that Plex’s setup experience is much smoother. And when you’re trying to convert people, the single largest obstacle is often social inertia. So lowering the barriers to entry is extremely important. My mother-in-law would need to sideload the Jellyfin app onto her TV, but Plex is available right on its app store.
Luckily, you can run both side by side. Jellyfin for me and my more tech-literate friends, Plex for those who don’t know/don’t care to learn.
errer@lemmy.world 10 months ago
For me it’s a trade-off: yes Plex is less good than Jellyfin from a data/cost perspective. But so far the UI of Plex (which is not perfect mind you), availability of Plexamp (which honestly is very very good), and the fact that I don’t have to pay for it anymore after buying lifetime swings the scale towards Plex for me.
If Plex somehow canceled my lifetime or forced ads on my shows or something, that would be a line — but making me opt out of selling my data is not that line for me.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Different taste on the UI front I guess. I thought the default Plex was awful, couldn’t stand it. Jellyfin can be a bit messy though
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I have read many people say this, but I don’t understand what they mean by it. When I set up Jellyfin, it was a very simple process.
brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
Setting up a server? Pretty darn easy.
Teaching all your friends and relatives to figure out what app to use and login with your dyndns random entry or IP address. Or even more difficult, using VPN.
It’s not the hosting that’s hard. It’s the watching for non-tech people.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Apparently all your friends and family are comfortable with hostnames ip addresses. Not everyone’s are. Also, not everyone wants to buy a static ip or setup a dynamic dns service or similar. Plex is definitely simpler. I have used both.
RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 10 months ago
Simplicity is relative to each person’s abilities and the tool in question.
7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
Plexamp is pretty great. It’s my streaming music player of choice.
After gpm shit the bed… I vowed to never have another streaming music service.
Plexamp it is.
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 10 months ago
As I said, I’ve yet to find a selfhosting solution half as good as PlexAmp. It’s very, very good and arguably a better service than normal Plex
clubizarre@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The closest thing I’ve found to Plexamp (on Android) is Symphonium. I only pointed it to my Plex server, but it offers support to so many other services. It also works perfect in Android Audio. It does cost $4, but it’s honestly worth that and then some.
But I totally get how great Plexamp is. I use it every day.
AtariDump@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Thirds on both your points.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 months ago
What’s actually bad about it?
Like, this is something you opt into and is only relevant if you’re watching their ad supported stuff, which I don’t know anyone who watches that over their own media on Plex.
And honestly, every “bad” thing I’ve ever heard about Plex has been the same thing, something that sounds horrible until you understand it
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 10 months ago
Because Jellyfin users like to feel superior. Accepting that other people have other requirements from software is hard, especially when you feel like you choice is the only valid one.
As a long time Plex user, who has a Jellyfin running in parallel, just not shared, I will keep using Plex until they either force me off of it or Jellyfin manages to make accessing servers remotely easier and more secure.
Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Until jellyfin adds better user log in plex will still thrive. I do the self hosting I don’t want a call every few days about they can’t log in. The one click Gmail login with plex is amazing.
EisFrei@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You can install a plugin to add SSO.
Ulrich@feddit.org 10 months ago
Did you notice that they’re using a local connection? Still requires VPN/reverse proxy to get it outside the home.
EisFrei@lemmy.world 10 months ago
They didn’t mention it in the post I reacted to.
But both of your suggestions are excellent solutions to the problem.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I would not let anyone access my self hosted stuff who is not using a password manager and secure passwords.
anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
I’m actually fascinated/frightened by the number of people here who are apparently comfortable running an exposed remote service on their personal network without enough tech knowledge to manage user auth themselves or maintain a stack with shared volumes…
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 10 months ago
Also the people that know how to set that all up and still expose a Jellyfin server to the public internet
AbidanYre@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I think most of the reason people are using Plex is that they don’t have to expose services. Plex handles all the nat traversal and whatnot for them.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The sunken cost of buying a plexpass for 39 dollars 15 years ago.
bread@feddit.nl 10 months ago
Here’s why I still use Plex: for me Jellyfin hasn’t been easy to work the way I want it to. I mostly access my media on an Nvidia Shield, and the Jellyfin Android TV app just refuses to play certain videos; I can play them if I use VLC as an external player, but not within the app itself. The more pressing issue is that Jellyfin just refuses to play 5.1 audio, and downmixes everything to stereo. I have other issues, but these are the ones that prevent me from using it.
For me Plex just works.