Discord👏Is👏Not👏A👏Replacement👏For👏 Websites
What I hate most about this is how they now moved to Rocket Chat.
Come on people. Use a forum. Get the message, finally. Do it!
Discord Shuts Down Servers for Switch Emulators Suyu & Sudachi; Disables Lead Developers Account As Well
Submitted 6 months ago by Pra@sh.itjust.works to games@lemmy.world
https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/11/24127545/discord-suyu-sudachi-server-shutdown-account-ban
Comments
Carighan@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Crafter72@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m pretty sure most of people who mainly use discord as their main social apps probably never touched forum-based internet.
Hosting your own forum is also better as you (the owner of the site) can still retrieve the msgs as long as you still have the access to the host server.
Not to mention using discord is already risking yourself because of their shitty policy.
madcaesar@lemmy.world 6 months ago
What’s a safe way to host a site without anyone being able to track it to you?
someacnt_@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I make lots of use of discord. That does not mean I prefer it to forum style for communication - discord just suits well for one-off joke-y talk
Untitled4774@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
And it’s a million times better for people trying to troubleshoot.
1 forum post can solve many problems, rather than having to have each person ask in a support chat that’s not searchable.
IronKrill@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Technically Discord is trying to solve this with rheir threads feature, but I’ve found either the server owners don’t force it or the users don’t use it. Either way, it sucks.
GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 months ago
They need to be using an encrypted platform hosted in a country out of reach of Nintendo
bfg9k@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s so goddamn easy to set up a basic forum site for a few bucks a month, and it’s not like there aren’t hundreds of options for file sharing as well.
The Xbox and PSP modding forums were where I used to hang out before Reddit, a well-designed and run forum is so much better than trying to basically make a website out of a chat room.
Cybersteel@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I think most of those old forums are gone now.
daltotron@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Still not the point of a live-chat application. The use case is not the same as a forum. You want an archive where everything is well-organized and most questions have already been answered. Discord and other live chat services are more like live tech support, to fill the gap between the raw technical documentation found in GitHub, and the just getting started guide or FAQ, which are usually lightweight enough that they could be posted anywhere. Discord doesn’t exist to be an archive that holds all the knowledge, discord exists so that when you open an app, you can go in, ask a couple questions, and hopefully someone will get to you in a couple minutes, at most, rather than in a couple days.
bilb@lem.monster 6 months ago
I hope Nintendo is able to make emulation illegal once and for all and end all this. People really shouldn’t be allowed to run whatever software they want, they should only be allowed to run Microsoft Windows
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
You got me in the first half
clubb@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Think you forgot the /s
bilb@lem.monster 6 months ago
/s is for cowards!
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
They trust people’s intelligence
ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
3D Pinball: Space Cadet for life.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You almost had me 🤣
jeze@leminal.space 6 months ago
[deleted]melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I know. It would be so fucking cool. Oh well.
meldrik@lemmy.wtf 6 months ago
Just learned about Revolt.chat. It looks to have great potential. It’s basically a Discord clone.
MilitantVegan@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Revolt is promising in that it’s trying to be a direct Discord clone, but it’s also being made by one person as a passion project, and it sounds like it’s their first time doing a project of this size. Last time I checked, encryption was not even implemented in it yet.
Matrix is distinctly different from Discord, but it’s certainly more mature and featurefull as well.
Secret300@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Personally I don’t trust it. Don’t really have any reason not to but it just feels eh to me. Just use matrix
rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Until ten years ago we used TeamSpeak for voice chat, IRC and forum for text. You can host all of them yourself. Today we have the fediverse and matrix. The problem is that kids get caught by the likes of tiktok and discord (because they are easily accessible with no other requirements than a phone or pc) and they can’t get away from them.
Deway@lemmy.world 6 months ago
And we could call it… XMPP! Maybe that’s too nerdy… What about Jabber?
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
What would it be called?
shasta@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Email!
cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Datcord?
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
There is also Jami, if you want to just chat with friends
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Man fuck Nintendo at this point. WE ARE ALLOWED TO EMULATE, GET FUCKED
EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I dead ass downloaded and set up yuza the second I heard it was shutting down
time_fo_that@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I had the guide open on my laptop for so long but ADHD’d and never got it done lol
kadu@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’ll reinforce my comment from months ago: I have the latest version of Yuzu, the keys, the firmware, the Linux and Windows versions, and links to ROM sites, and I’ll distribute them forever to whoever asks in my DMs. I packaged them in a simple .zip with easy to follow instructions.
That said, why simply not use Ryujinx? Even on the Steam Deck performance is very good nowadays. Super Mario Wonder plays at 60 FPS on the Deck (though you need to enable a very simple mod that disables some weird function the game runs, otherwise it drops to 30 FPS all the time). In fact, for AMD GPUs, you’re doing yourself a huge favor by going Ryujinx over Yuzu and derivatives.
Ryujinx is solid, accurate and well known, it’s a trusted emulator. The Yuzu forks are unknown, managed by non experienced people (one was quite literally created by a teenager with zero coding knowledge) and extremely ephemeral.
yamanii@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Ryujinx runs very poorly on older cpus like ryzen 3200G, I played ToTK fine on Yuzu, but on ryujinx the game becomes a slideshow, I also can’t get 60fps on Princess Peach with it.
force@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah Ryujinx is a C# Unity game so it has its limits. They wrote Yuzu mostly in C++ so while it tended to be buggy it performed way better.
LucidNightmare@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Hey, Kadu! It’s so good to see you again! I have been using the yuzu zip you sent me, and have been playing the hell out of some of my games. I just wanted to say thank you so freaking much, from the bottom of my heart! 🙏
kadu@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Thanks for the very kind comment. Happy to hear you’re enjoying Yuzu :)
hash0772@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Ryujinx is for perfect emulation, as in it aims to completely replicate how the Nintendo Switch works. While Yuzu is an emulator that aims for better performance than the Switch while playing Switch games.
kadu@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You correct in the statement Ryujinx aims for accuracy and does not implement certain performance workarounds Yuzu did. However, your comment is exaggerated. Even Ryujinx isn’t a cycle accurate emulator, nowhere close.
merthyr1831@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m still pretty solid with my Yuzu install so I’ve no need to move to Ryujinx for now, but assuming they avoid Ninty’s legal team I’ll likely pick up Ryujinx when I need a fresh steamOS install and/or Ryujinx surpasses Yuzu’s compatibility in a game I wanna play
Cyyy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Ryujinx don’t works on android. So also not on the Odin 2 Pro as an example. that’s why (for me).
NaoPb@eviltoast.org 6 months ago
Thank you for your good work.
obinice@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Why 👏 is 👏 every 👏 word 👏 padded 👏 by 👏 emoticons 👏 ?
Pra@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
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bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
I misread that and thought you were d*cking your sister.
bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
They are emoji. Emoticons are these things :( :)
LinusSexTips@lemmy.world 6 months ago
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jaybone@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That one looks like a monkey ate a ghost.
Kbobabob@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You’ve never seen someone clap between every word trying to get their point across?
thatgirlwasfire@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I have, but the clapping made me think their point wasn’t well thought out.
S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Never your granny clapped between words while shouting some order or rule?
rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Discord is the antithesis to free web. Stop using it. I won’t join any community using discord.
kurikai@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Good discord is trash.
S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Even beyond the point of “using discord”. Nintendo is reaching harassment levels of assholism. Are they doing even worse that with Gaty Bowser?
altima_neo@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
They should just spin up their own Lemmy instance
nutsack@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You all should have stayed on IRC
9point6@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Why is this much of this a problem for them—discord shouldn’t be an essential piece of the puzzle for an emulator project
Potentially completing someone’s lemmy bingo card here, but it’s relatively easy to self-host any tools you need
disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Discord is a shit, always was shit. Shitty platform, shitty (electron) apps.
lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Matrix is a better Discord.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I don’t want to get victim blamey, but…
RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 6 months ago
If they REALLY want it to be like discord, why not use Revolt?
I don’t understand.
One that really ticked me off was that “the legend of zelda ocarina of time” pc build “ship of harkinian”.
I have never had such a tough time installing something. You have to do everything through their discord and it was a complete fucking mess.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Pretty fucking authoritarian for a company that uses the OPA’s split circle as its logo
rdri@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“We will repeat in every sentence that we are not a for-profit emulator, we’ll be fine!”
Yeah.
merthyr1831@lemmy.world 6 months ago
googled Sudachi, and its GPL 3 but:
- Contributions aren’t allowed
- Hosted on github (might be an issue tracker instead of the live repo tho)
- Claims not to paywall features, before listing a bunch of features behind a paywall.
yeah that’s gonna go real swell for them
FractalsInfinite@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I suspected that would happen the moment I realized suyu uses only a discord server. Shame they didn’t use matrix or even IRC
therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
I’m not surprised. It’s not right for Discord to disable the servers and accounts, but at the same time, if you are hosting a community it shouldn’t be on discord since you aren’t in control of it
Muffi@programming.dev 6 months ago
Emulation is a matter of media preservation. Give us backwards compatibility or go fuck yourselves.
DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
This reminds me that I need to uninstall discord. Thanks!
taiyang@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Side note, is there there a good open source alternative to Discord in terms of it’s exact functionality? (And I don’t mean as a forum alternative, but voice comms and streaming). After their app update, I’m kind of annoyed with them. Yet, my community is rather dependent on them despite their enshittification.
We got sucked in because you could simply link it to randos on MMOs and if they didn’t want to download an app, could still have voice comms in browser. Before that, we had ventrillo, mumble, etc, but nothing was quite as easy access for randos. But man, they kind of suck lately so… hrm. :/
lowleveldata@programming.dev 6 months ago
Suyu is a troll project anyway so
doublejay1999@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I often revere the people who can do smart shit.
I really shouldn’t. Using discord is dumb. Using discord for a switch emulator, while Nintendos lawyers are waking around with their cocks out is stupid.
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 6 months ago
I’ve said this recently, but intelligence is domain specific. People just being generally “smart” is not a thing people should really care about.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Yep, I’ve known specialists that are extremely good at their job but when you hear them talk about other stuff you sometimes wonder how they manage to tie their shoes in the morning.
infinitepcg@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s not a matter of intelligence, these people just have different priorities.
yokonzo@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Have you considered that the person you consider smart is focusing all their brain power on their projects and they don’t have time to set up and maintain a website? That’s what discord is for, an easy, quick and dirty community aggregate
ProfessorNeurus@programming.dev 6 months ago
While there’s truth in your words, there are alternatives that require little effort. Even a IRC channel would have been better.
Discord is not only a terrible bad application, it’s the equivalent of writing posts on medium. If and when they decide to gatekeep your content, there’s nothing you can do.
4am@lemm.ee 6 months ago
That’s not what discord is for if you are doing anything where a big corporation wants to muscle you around.
GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 months ago
The lack of intelligence is thinking you can build a grey zone project in discord. It’s like saying you want to build a house but don’t want to pour a foundation. Like, good for you, focus on windows and paint, but you’re not gonna get anywhere.
Easy quick and dirty are not acceptable when you are trying to build emulation software based on the products of a very litigious international corporation
avater@lemmy.world 6 months ago
and thats also the reason why this project is now gone… also you are pretty much “paying” with all you information and since they started heavily monetizing Discord you will pay even more as they soon will start to sell you conveniences or essential features.
Damage@feddit.it 6 months ago
Creating a channel on freenode takes seconds
doublejay1999@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Not for a minute, no.
someacnt_@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Huh, I thought it was just a chat room to get to know people.
someacnt_@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Is it wrong to seek for online friends in discord?
doublejay1999@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I think you just need to know what you are getting into.
It’s a private company, it’s closed to sourced, they capture and monetise your data.
For people who value transparency and privacy, there are better options. This emulator project, should have known better than to use is.
aaalll of that being said, it’s very popular and if you are not concerned by any of the points raised in this who threads, it’s a good place to meet people to chat about Warcraft or whatever your thing is.
Just be aware that any thing your write, effectively belongs to them forever.